This weeks Classic Irish bargains that I'm not buying

elperello

Gravelly wrote: »

Ah - misread it as sitting in a garage for 5 years. If he just means it was kept in a garage it's a different kettle of fish!

He is right about it needing a garage.
If you started leaving that out in the weather you would see it disintegrating before your eyes.

JabbaTheHut

Would be really wary with that E30. It's slammed into the ground. What a terrible thing to do to a car in the first place. But he says there's no rust, worth between 5 and 7 grand (debatable) and only looking for a too good to be true €1500 ? There's some sort of an aftermarket thing on the dash on pic 10. Suspension related? The sill on the 3rd and 4th pic looks like it's got a recent dose of shulch. And not quiet straight. In the 9th pic there looks to be some overspray on the door seal. No pic of the engine bay. No NCT for years. No way would I go near it without thinking if it's scrap value would be more that €1500.

Or maybe I'm a bit too harsh

Edit: I see he says there's new paint. That's the overspray accounted for. But what is the paint hiding?

80sDiesel

JabbaTheHut wrote: »

Would be really wary with that E30. It's slammed into the ground. What a terrible thing to do to a car in the first place. But he says there's no rust, worth between 5 and 7 grand (debatable) and only looking for a too good to be true €1500 ? There's some sort of an aftermarket thing on the dash on pic 10. Suspension related? The sill on the 3rd and 4th pic looks like it's got a recent dose of shulch. And not quiet straight. In the 9th pic there looks to be some overspray on the door seal. No pic of the engine bay. No NCT for years. No way would I go near it without thinking if it's scrap value would be more that €1500.

Or maybe I'm a bit too harsh

Edit: I see he says there's new paint. That's the overspray accounted for. But what is the paint hiding?

I am not into BMWs but if i was i would be thinking.....If he has paid to get it resprayed it must not have been a basket case to begin with.

kadman

80sDiesel wrote: »

I am not into BMWs but if i was i would be thinking.....If he has paid to get it resprayed it must not have been a basket case to begin with.

Paint can cover an awful lot of trouble in the short term

flatty

The other thing is that we are in an odd market, driven in part by investors looking for anywhere to make a return, which drove initially the high end market insane, and this is now rising an awful lot of boats. Many so called "appreciating classics" are nothing of the sort. They are increasing in value at present not through rarity or design beauty or engineering genius. They are increasing in value in truth on slightly spurious grounds.
I have two "classic" cars. They are, in theory, appreciating, but not my as much as running costs. Also, sticking them on auto trader or done deal with a price tag for x amount, does not mean they are worth x amount. They are worth what someone actually hands over for them.

Gravelly

flatty wrote: »

The other thing is that we are in an odd market, driven in part by investors looking for anywhere to make a return, which drove initially the high end market insane, and this is now rising an awful lot of boats. Many so called "appreciating classics" are nothing of the sort. They are increasing in value at present not through rarity or design beauty or engineering genius. They are increasing in value in truth on slightly spurious grounds.
I have two "classic" cars. They are, in theory, appreciating, but not my as much as running costs. Also, sticking them on auto trader or done deal with a price tag for x amount, does not mean they are worth x amount. They are worth what someone actually hands over for them.

Very true - I usually buy my classics in the UK as they tend to be cheaper, better kept, and obviously there's far more choice. I've never made more than a few hundred euros on a classic, and anyone buying anything other than rare high-end stuff is mad to think they will. Buy them and enjoy them is my view. I'd love to get the prices for mine that lads advertise them on donedeal for - most seem to put very ordinary classics up for crazy money, either to allow for a lot of horse trading, or in the hope of catching a sucker.

Duke O Smiley

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/fiat-x19-1979/18440079



Nice little number for the summer. NCT exempt, €2900

Gravelly

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/fiat-x19-1979/18440079



Nice little number for the summer. NCT exempt, €2900

There used to be quite a few of those around in my youth, but they are as rare as hens teeth now. A great little drive by all accounts.

Duke O Smiley

Not Irish, but worth a look IMO

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1956-Morris-Split-screen-Zetec-Sleeper-/152975099787?hash=item239e06c78b%3Ag%3ASZYAAOSwLnZayS~~&nma=true&si=vMLvVrmyV2LoPRNwevDvbsXU5Ao%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

160 BHP Zetec'd Morris Minor

unkel

Worth a call to your insurer first

Greybottle

unkel wrote: »

Worth a call to your insurer first

Their possible reaction....

Working class heroes

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-w124/18519974
Looks tidy.

Working class heroes

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/classic-mitsubishi-colt-c52a-1-5-automatic/18519334

A very, very solid investment.

Seweryn

Working class heroes wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-w124/18519974
Looks tidy.

Yeah... 1985.

Sure :rolleyes:

emeldc

Seweryn wrote: »

Yeah... 1985.

Sure :rolleyes:

Enlighten us.

Harry Palmr

It's got the lower body cladding and integrated front end grill which was added in 1990 I think so it's not an 85 but if that's so how does it have ZV plates? Thought it would have to be 85 or at least 30 years old?

emeldc

Harry Palmr wrote: »

It's got the lower body cladding and integrated front end grill which was added in 1990 I think so it's not an 85 but if that's so how does it have ZV plates? Thought it would have to be 85 or at least 30 years old?

Hmm, interesting alright. Would the cladding fit the older model if it was added afterwards. Although if the grill is wrong as well.....maybe it's ropey. Pity, it looks straight enough.

Seweryn

Harry Palmr wrote: »

It's got the lower body cladding and integrated front end grill which was added in 1990 I think so it's not an 85 but if that's so how does it have ZV plates? Thought it would have to be 85 or at least 30 years old?

It also has the OM606 engine, the last series interior, door handles, the engine bonnet, headlights, rear lights, and... well, more less everything "from" the E-Class model (1993 up).

emeldc wrote: »

Hmm, interesting alright. Would the cladding fit the older model if it was added afterwards. Although if the grill is wrong as well.....maybe it's ropey. Pity, it looks straight enough.

Cladding is the least difficult collection of bits to swap, but... as above, it clearly is a 1985 "on paper".

Harry Palmr

Well I'm wondering myself the bonnet swap is easy not sure if the panels can be fitted easily to a pre-facelift model.

edit - classification post above

Seweryn

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Well I'm wondering myself the bonnet swap is easy not sure if the panels can be fitted easily to a pre-facelift model.

Headlights
Rear Lights
Indicator Lights
Interior
Exterior
Engine
Bonnet
Grill
Boot Lid

Really?

BorneTobyWilde

Clearly a newer type Merc, 1990 on wards. Looks a 1995 to me, just a guess. I guess he changed the 9 to an 8 when clearing it.

Bigus

The intake vent slats in the wing are more telling.

Bigus

Bigus wrote: »

The intake vent slats in the wing are more telling.

they were on the diesels weren't they?

Seweryn

Augeo wrote: »

they were on the diesels weren't they?

Only on the 20 and 24V (normally aspirated - OM605 and OM606), and on the turbocharged versions (not available as RHD).

Seweryn

Seweryn wrote: »

Only on the 20 and 24V (normally aspirated - OM605 and OM606), and on the turbocharged versions (not available as RHD).

Yeah, I had an OM602 that could have done with them :pac:

hi5

I had a '91 and it had the earlier OM603 engine, so along with all the other bits it's hard to see how it's an '85.

w124man

Missed this and the advert is gone. Anyone got a pic?


Its simple to make an '85 to look like a '95 if you have all the bits and used to be done in 1993 when the facelift came out!


When you think about it, its easy to get a fake ID for a car as the VRT people haven't a clue what they are looking at. The 'elephant in the room' thread has enough evidence of that. I've seen 1982 W124's and 1976 W126's at shows and even a 1986 W140!

Working class heroes

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/volvo-1800-1972/18540492
Love this.

Kenny Logins

Working class heroes wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/volvo-1800-1972/18540492
Love this.

That reg...

tc20

Working class heroes wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/volvo-1800-1972/18540492
Love this.

those seats though...:cool: - anyone know if they would have been the original fit? They look so comfy