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Any idea what aax weighing 340 kilos 19 months old would bring?

Albert Johnson

Muckit wrote: »

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

You'd have an empty box going home if you were in kilfenora tonight so muckit!

Better an empty box than a dear one!!

Big +1 on this, I'd much rather have an empty trailer and be down the price of the diesel and grub rather than buy dear stock for the sake of buying something. The potential for profit when you sell is largely determined on the day of purchase, I've learned this to my cost from personal experience. If there too dear from the outset it's almost impossible to alter this regardless of management afterwards imo. Any set back after this and your into the red straight away, I'd rather be looking at the money than trying to win it back on over priced stock.

furandfeather

Sold 4 bulls this evening
Avg weight 480
Avg price 955

valtra2

2 euro a kg is picking up the most of them

Western Pomise

furandfeather wrote: »

Sold 4 bulls this evening
Avg weight 480
Avg price 955

What breed?

furandfeather

Western Pomise wrote: »

What breed?

3 sims and 1 ch

Limestone Cowboy

Muckit wrote: »

Better an empty box than a dear one!! l don't usially stray outside of Ballinasloe anyways!

Agreed. Didn't even want to go myself in case something caught my eye :rolleyes: seen 2 nice red lims 320kg 955. Any nice ch heifer 280-300kg running into 750+ freely. There's no value in weanlings compared to year and a half stock. Didn't see any nice continental types selling at €2/kg.

Bass Reeves

Limestone Cowboy wrote: »

Agreed. Didn't even want to go myself in case something caught my eye :rolleyes: seen 2 nice red lims 320kg 955. Any nice ch heifer 280-300kg running into 750+ freely. There's no value in weanlings compared to year and a half stock. Didn't see any nice continental types selling at €2/kg.

Buy a few 19-20 month Friesians

tellmeabit

Had a look in gortalea last night

Black lmx  250kg July €530
Orange lm 255kg Feb € 675
Char 185kg June €505

3 lmx 270kg March €685

Lmx 260kg  March €650

Lmx 220kg Mar €570

 Lmx 240kg Mar 670€
Lmx Mar 210kg  € 550
Chx april 260kg € 650
Chx 330kg may €520
Ch April 232kg €600
Ch  330kg  March €765

Ch may 205kg €585     pbnr
2 Lm   240kg     €625
Mar lm 255kg € 630

Ch 215kg may €545

Lm 245kg  April  € 485

Aux April 205kg € 555



3 chlmx may 223 kg €560
Aux april 245kg  €570
Bbx april 280kg €645
Lmx Mar 300kg  €770
Lchx feb 320kg € €755

Chx Feb 270kg €650


Black lmx Mar 335kg €650

Ch April  285kg € 835

Chx Mar 310kg € 740

Lmx Jan 395kg € 930
Lmx 350kg Feb € 870

Chx 290kg April € 685

Bbx 420kg Mar €1055

Ch 320kg Mar €770

Chx mar 300kg €720

Chx 355kg feb  €685

Ch feb 375kg  €880

2 Lmx 290kg € 780
1 Im Mar 385kg  €875

2 lmx 350kg Dec  €790
2lm Jan 322kg € 740

1lm Jan 295kg €700

Lmx Mar 355kg €940
Lm Feb 360kg €765
Lm Feb 315kg  €755



Lm Feb 315kg  €760

Lm 270kg Mar  €790

Lm feb 355kg  €815

Im Feb 255kg € 570

Lm Feb 245kg €565









Hef
Chx April 200kg €500kg
Lmx Mar 245kg €545

Waternotsoda

Bass Reeves wrote: »

Buy a few 19-20 month Friesians

What kind of finish would you expect from these. When would you expect to finish them?

patsy_mccabe

Just saw a FR bull in Thurles mart (live stream) at 430 Kgs & 18 months, make €540. Poor demand for young bulls, it seems.

https://www.farmersforum.ie/live-marts/

Buford T. Justice XIX

Fr bulls 395 for 430 just now:(

Anto_Meath

You would wonder with the likes of that 18 month old bull not going to be fit under 24 months with out a lot of meal would you be as well off squeeze him and finish him as a bullock around 30 months.

Albert Johnson

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Just saw a FR bull in Thurles mart (live stream) at 430 Kgs & 18 months, make €540. Poor demand for young bulls, it seems.

https://www.farmersforum.ie/live-marts/

I'm not much of a judge of Friesians as there something of an anomaly here in the deepest darkest North West but demand for young heavy bulls is poor across all breeds atm. Bar the very tops of bulls once you go over 380kg buyers are thin on the ground especially if there 12 months +, circa €2 a kilo seems to be the price of average coloured store bulls 400kg and over so I'd imagine Friesians will be significantly less.

Albert Johnson

Anto_Meath wrote: »

You would wonder with the likes of that 18 month old bull not going to be fit under 24 months with out a lot of meal would you be as well off squeeze him and finish him as a bullock around 30 months.

In my opinion your right, squeeze him and put him back to grass in the spring. Come next August you could revaluate the situation and see about feeding him meal for a few weeks depending on his condition. However a lot of lads don't want that sort of hassle or couldn't bear to look at him, if he's 18 months + and still intact then he's probably not a bullock for the "front field". Some lads are very into that sort of thing or so I'm told.

Anto_Meath

Albert Johnson wrote: »

In my opinion your right, squeeze him and put him back to grass in the spring. Come next August you could revaluate the situation and see about feeding him meal for a few weeks depending on his condition. However a lot of lads don't want that sort of hassle or couldn't bear to look at him, if he's 18 months + and still intact then he's probably not a bullock for the "front field". Some lads are very into that sort of thing or so I'm told.

That's why most of my land is in long lanes....Ye there is lads into appearances alright. I wouldn't be to pushed what anything I buy looks like once the money is right, now I would be a bit annoyed if I bred something I don't like the look of and mammy would be getting the road.

Muckit

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Just saw a FR bull in Thurles mart (live stream) at 430 Kgs & 18 months, make €540. Poor demand for young bulls, it seems.

https://www.farmersforum.ie/live-marts/

The real cattle are going through now. Some lovely bunches of limo and ch bulls gone through and all under €2/kg

Albert Johnson

I called into Ballina today as I was passing, big enough show of weanlings and seemed to be plenty of buyers about. The good bull calf seemed dearer than other weeks imo. The nice farmers calf 250-330kg was freely making €2.50-3.00 a kilo for good continental sorts. Anything nice under 250kg were a total rip and €3.00-3.30 a kilo was common place. Even average AAx or HEx type bulls were making €2.10-2.40 a kilo up to 300kg.

There didn't seem to be many heavier bulls in it but the majority over 400kg were making €2.00-2.20 a kilo for continental's. Anything agey or off colour at those weight's struggled to clinch the €2 a kilo. I didn't venture near the heifers but was told they were an easier trade especially for plain types.

Anto_Meath

Albert Johnson wrote: »

I called into Ballina today as I was passing, big enough show of weanlings and seemed to be plenty of buyers about. The good bull calf seemed dearer than other weeks imo. The nice farmers calf 250-330kg was freely making €2.50-3.00 a kilo for good continental sorts. Anything nice under 250kg were a total rip and €3.00-3.30 a kilo was common place. Even average AAx or HEx type bulls were making €2.10-2.40 a kilo up to 300kg.

There didn't seem to be many heavier bulls in it but the majority over 400kg were making €2.00-2.20 a kilo for continental's. Anything agey or off colour at those weight's struggled to clinch the €2 a kilo. I didn't venture near the heifers but was told they were an easier trade especially for plain types.

Ye Carnaross was the same last Tuesday night, nice continental calves between 250 - 350 Kgs were €2.50 - €3 a kg (I would say €2.80 was the main run of it) where as anything over 400 kgs was around €2, if it was a HEx or AAx then could was back to €1.75.

patsy_mccabe

Just saw in that Thurles livestream above, bullocks;
18month Fr - qty 10 - 425kg - €700
18month Fr - qty 2 - 380kg - €585

Panch18

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Just saw in that Thurles livestream above, bullocks;
18month Fr - qty 10 - 425kg - €700
18month Fr - qty 2 - 380kg - €585

They are poor weights for this time of the year - particularly the lighter ones.
They are way overpriced at that money

Muckit

Panch18 wrote: »

They are poor weights for this time of the year - particularly the lighter ones.
They are way overpriced at that money

Even if they were framey?

Panch18

Muckit wrote: »

Even if they were framey?

They will never be heavy enough. The light ones are 100kg short of where they should be. You'd want a Fr to be weighing 450kg at this time of year

Unless they were going to be pumped with nuts - which makes no sense to me anyway

patsy_mccabe

Easy tell the buyers from the sellers on here.
I thought the first lot were nice cattle for friesians.

tellmeabit

Castleisland today
Feb ch 454kg € 965

Feb lm black 344kg €730
Mar Lm black 320kg €510

Feb Lm 436kg €770
April lm 287kg € €715
April lm 300kg €740
April lm 242kg €720.

April lm 286kg €730
April lm 386kg €860
Lm Nov 478kg €950
Jan ch 380kg €840




Hef

Mar lm 291kg €640
Mar lm 252kg €620
Mar lm 328kg €570
Feb ch 304kg €680
Feb lm 292kg €620
April lm 249kg €590
April lm 239kg €560

April lm 206kg €490
Mar lm 343kg €770
Mar lm 268kg €535
Mar lm 274kg €585

Mar ch 262kg €
Mar ch 258kg €590
Mar ch 258kg €515
April ch 236kg €570
Feb ch 268kg €525
Oct bb 388kg €840
Feb ch 332kg €580
Feb ch 308kg €500
Feb ch 276kg €635

Jan lm 308kg €630
Jan lm 318kg €640
Mar lm 214kg €520
Mar lm 238kg €545
Dec lm 308kg €510
Mar lm 246kg €600

Feb 274kg €685
Mar lm 239kg €625
Mar lm 275kg €515

Bull
April lm 246kg €640


Hef
Jan ch 293kg €675

MIKEKC

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Easy tell the buyers from the sellers on here.
I thought the first lot were nice cattle for friesians.

As Panch 18 said they will never be heavy enough. Into feeding this time of year. They will be costing e950 going to grass , yet won't be factory fit until end of year

dohc turbo2

tellmeabit wrote: »

Castleisland today
Feb ch 454kg € 965

Feb lm black 344kg €730
Mar Lm black 320kg €510

Feb Lm 436kg €770
April lm 287kg € €715
April lm 300kg €740
April lm 242kg €720.

April lm 286kg €730
April lm 386kg €860
Lm Nov 478kg €950
Jan ch 380kg €840




Hef

Mar lm 291kg €640
Mar lm 252kg €620
Mar lm 328kg €570
Feb ch 304kg €680
Feb lm 292kg €620
April lm 249kg €590
April lm 239kg €560

April lm 206kg €490
Mar lm 343kg €770
Mar lm 268kg €535
Mar lm 274kg €585

Mar ch 262kg €
Mar ch 258kg €590
Mar ch 258kg €515
April ch 236kg €570
Feb ch 268kg €525
Oct bb 388kg €840
Feb ch 332kg €580
Feb ch 308kg €500
Feb ch 276kg €635

Jan lm 308kg €630
Jan lm 318kg €640
Mar lm 214kg €520
Mar lm 238kg €545
Dec lm 308kg €510
Mar lm 246kg €600

Feb 274kg €685
Mar lm 239kg €625
Mar lm 275kg €515

Bull
April lm 246kg €640


Hef
Jan ch 293kg €675

The buyers weren’t around today lot of cattle on offer , u had no Purcell, Egan, hallisy or lawler at the ring for some reason , there normall there Monday’s

Albert Johnson

Are the exporters buying this week? I know there are a few different markets open at the minute but I'm talking about the average suckler bull weanling circa 250-300kg. I didn't see any sign of them Friday and was told that the job is currently on hold but that could be just rumours. They were a serious help to the trade for the average lighter weanling so far and I can't see the trade holding it's own for those types without an exporter presence.

Seemingly there's a market after opening up to the Czech republic (could be mistaken on destination) for continental bull's circa 350kg. I saw a bundle of bulls that were assembled for this market over the weekend. They were mostly LMx and CHx, all goodish types, 340kg @ €780 before commission, that's rough €2.30 a kilo by my figures.

Limestone Cowboy

Don't think boats are going this week with the weather.

Hard Knocks

Albert Johnson wrote: »

Are the exporters buying this week? I know there are a few different markets open at the minute but I'm talking about the average suckler bull weanling circa 250-300kg. I didn't see any sign of them Friday and was told that the job is currently on hold but that could be just rumours. They were a serious help to the trade for the average lighter weanling so far and I can't see the trade holding it's own for those types without an exporter presence.

Seemingly there's a market after opening up to the Czech republic (could be mistaken on destination) for continental bull's circa 350kg. I saw a bundle of bulls that were assembled for this market over the weekend. They were mostly LMx and CHx, all goodish types, 340kg @ €780 before commission, that's rough €2.30 a kilo by my figures.

No sign at Carrigallen either
Sadly FJ has it wrong

Track9

Hard Knocks wrote: »

No sign at Carrigallen either
Sadly FJ has it wrong

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Was at Kenmare Mart Thursdasy ( Bull Weanlings Show & Sale )
Definitely Shippers Were there .
All continental Males 230 - 350 kg good demand .
Overall nice conti weanlings made 450 - 530 + weight .

With the crap year we have most sellers seemed happy enough. Thanbks to the Boats .

Muckit

Hard Knocks wrote: »

Sadly FJ has it wrong

Never. Go way

patsy_mccabe

Fellow poster may be in this.


https://twitter.com/ajwwoods/status/1180504959185489920

adne

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Fellow poster may be in this.


https://twitter.com/ajwwoods/status/1180504959185489920

Those prices legit?
Was in ballymote yesterday and prices for good ch between 225 and 245 per kg

Hard Knocks

adne wrote: »

Those prices legit?
Was in ballymote yesterday and prices for good ch between 225 and 245 per kg

They’re legit
Weren’t as good last week or from 5pm on
Show & Sales are good to bring out customers for 1 day, it’s a pity they won’t stay

Cavanjack

I hope it wasn’t a farmer that paid those prices for them.

tanko

Usual shyte from Adam Woods and the comic, go to a show and sale, put up the best five prices of exceptional Charolais weanlings out of hundreds of calves ignoring how the rest sold.
Every October there's loads of U grade bulls about 340kgs sold for €750 or less i'd be surprised if it was any different today.

Albert Johnson

Cavanjack wrote: »

I hope it wasn’t a farmer that paid those prices for them.

Who else would you envisage parting with that sort of twine for them? I don't know of any current export market capable of those sort of returns atm and the much malinged feedlots are hardly that invested in the future of the suckler men either. For example I spoke to a stranger lately at a filling station who happened to be refueling his RV which at a guess wasn't much smaller than my dwelling house and was probably worth more. The auld pair (who don't farm) are off to Tenerife for a fortnight which isn't my idea of a good time but it's there money and more power to them. My point being it probably makes sense to the people involved and once it's not my money I don't pass any heed at what the other ring side regulars get up too.

Albert Johnson

adne wrote: »

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Fellow poster may be in this.


https://twitter.com/ajwwoods/status/1180504959185489920

Those prices legit?
Was in ballymote yesterday and prices for good ch between 225 and 245 per kg

I wasn't in Ballymote but the reports I heard from it weren't anything overly special. That's not too say that the prices in the link above are commonplace or that Ballymote was a bad trade but from what I saw at a sale last night any nice CHx bull under 350kg was €2.50 a kilo + and €3 or more wasn't that unusual.

Base price

tanko wrote: »

Usual shyte from Adam Woods and the comic, go to a show and sale, put up the best five prices of exceptional Charolais weanlings out of hundreds of calves ignoring how the rest sold.
Every October there's loads of U grade bulls about 340kgs sold for €750 or less i'd be surprised if it was any different today.

Show sales only ever quote the top prices the same as most marts reports.

wrangler

Base price wrote: »

Show sales only ever quote the top prices the same as most marts reports.

IFJ won't get credit from some no matter what they do.... if they quoted the lowest prices, it'd still be ''the usual ****e''

Reggie.

wrangler wrote: »

IFJ won't get credit from some no matter what they do.... if they quoted the lowest prices, it'd still be ''the usual ****e''

Welcome back ya must have been away

CloughCasey1

Reggie. wrote: »

Welcome back ya must have been away

Ya cant keep a good man down. :rolleyes:

johnnyw20

Anyone seen any Hereford bulls around 20 months in the mart recently? Roughly 600-650kg?

Albert Johnson

johnnyw20 wrote: »

Anyone seen any Hereford bulls around 20 months in the mart recently? Roughly 600-650kg?

Full bulls at that age probably won't be that saleable atm given the beef trade imo. I'm only guessing but if for further feeding I'd be thinking circa €1.50 a kilo? Perhaps I'm way off the mark but I saw a few continental bull's showed last week around those ages and weight's that needed further feeding and they didn't get any bids to the best of my knowledge. The mart isn't the place to sell forward store bull's imo, there to specialized and not enough customers especially in recent years. Once you feed them into circa 500kg you need to be committed to keeping through to slaughter imo.

Never wrestle with pigs

https://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/hereford-angus-and-friesian-weanlings/23159594

What are they worth?

Bass Reeves

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/beefcattle-for-sale/hereford-angus-and-friesian-weanlings/23159594

What are they worth?

A euro/kg for the friesian/AA and 1.5/kg for the HE, they look below average weanlings

Never wrestle with pigs

Bass Reeves wrote: »

A euro/kg for the friesian/AA and 1.5/kg for the HE, they look below average weanlings

They were far worse than average lol

Albert Johnson

Never wrestle with pigs wrote: »

Bass Reeves wrote: »

A euro/kg for the friesian/AA and 1.5/kg for the HE, they look below average weanlings

They were far worse than average lol

I take it the box was still rattling going home? If so I would always prefer to be sorry for not buying it rather than the other way round.

Never wrestle with pigs

Albert Johnson wrote: »

I take it the box was still rattling going home? If so I would always prefer to be sorry for not buying it rather than the other way round.

Definitely empty, ya same here. Don't have many cows this year so I was going to buy a few handy ones for the winter. Called into tullamore tonight. Strange trade. Light chx Heifers 300 kg just short of 2:50 kg, anything over 400kg nice ones struggle to get 2euro kg.