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High bike

valtra2 wrote: »

Tonight's ones

some serious weights there how long were they in the creep

valtra2

High bike wrote: »

some serious weights there how long were they in the creep

These are the lighter ones. Started in late July. Haven't made it up but think it's about 200kg each. First year it did not pay to creep. Heavy weights did not pay this year.

Micey.ie

Sold Few Ch bull weanlings today March/April born
256kgs-€740
304kgs-€820
316kgs-€835
318kgs-€890
346kgs-€790

Bass Reeves

valtra2 wrote: »

These are the lighter ones. Started in late July. Haven't made it up but think it's about 200kg each. First year it did not pay to creep. Heavy weights did not pay this year.

Creep still did not costs much with 50/head. You have to feed 30ish anyway the other 20/head will not break the bank

Albert Johnson

Micey.ie wrote: »

Sold Few Ch bull weanlings today March/April born
256kgs-€740
304kgs-€820
316kgs-€835
318kgs-€890
346kgs-€790

Apart from maybe the last weanling I'd consider those good prices especially for the year we're in. You'd want it all and more for producing them but those types of cattle are probably the least affected by the fall in prices atm in my opinion anyway. Compared to what the equivalent 2018 born stores are making the farmer's type CHx weanling circa 300kg is still a better trade than they should be imo.

Micey.ie

Albert Johnson wrote: »

Apart from maybe the last weanling I'd consider those good prices especially for the year we're in. You'd want it all and more for producing them but those types of cattle are probably the least affected by the fall in prices atm in my opinion anyway. Compared to what the equivalent 2018 born stores are making the farmer's type CHx weanling circa 300kg is still a better trade than they should be imo.

Yeah totally agree,only cattle at minute holding their own are the quality 300-350kgs ch white/golden colour.These calves straight off cow this morning(cow housed this morning and on will be on straw for 4/5 days) were only getting a 0.5kgs per day past 2 weeks just to get them eating for next man. I usually winter heifers but think I will sell them too,just keep cows/bull/couple of incalf heifers.

john mayo 10

john mayo 10 wrote: »

Hi . Have an 18 month old chx heifer that I cant get in calf. Lovely golden heifer with a white head. Planning on selling her shortly. Neighbour landed into yard. Offered 900 euro for her. Shes approx 530 to 550 kgs. I was thinking bout 1100 myself for her. What ye reckon

Well. I sold her today. 520kgs she was in heat all day yesterday and still been risen on this morning so she probably lost a good few kgs. She sold for 1110 euro so happy out with that.

Albert Johnson

john mayo 10 wrote: »

Well. I sold her today. 520kgs she was in heat all day yesterday and still been risen on this morning so she probably lost a good few kgs. She sold for 1110 euro so happy out with that.

Ballina? What was trade like in general. It's a good enough price for the time's we're in, she must have been a nice one.

john mayo 10

Albert Johnson wrote: »

Ballina? What was trade like in general. It's a good enough price for the time's we're in, she must have been a nice one.

Ballina alright. I wasnt there that long but once a ch went into the ring the price jumped. Trade seemed on a par with recent weeks. She was a lovely one but I had to let her go.

Albert Johnson

john mayo 10 wrote: »

Ballina alright. I wasnt there that long but once a ch went into the ring the price jumped. Trade seemed on a par with recent weeks. She was a lovely one but I had to let her go.

I always thought Ballina was hit and miss for heifer's and cow's, some great prices at times and a disaster at other's. They've lot's of customers for bull weanlings and bullocks of all types, it's a well setup mart in fairness to them. I had intended to call into the weanling sale yesterday but plans changed and I wasn't in the vicinity.

grassroot1

Sold 2 empty cows in Enniscorthy today
Simx suckler cow 6 calver 635kg 740 euro
Stx second calver 565kg 730 euro

josephsoap

A mart which I don’t frequent has a rather large sale of incalf heifers coming up soon,

I am just wondering if buying in a mart where the auctioneer and his assistant wouldn’t know you - if you are the highest bidder on a beast - is the lot number and price just recorded and sent to the office?, where I could then present and pay for the lots etc.

Or would it be best in an unfamiliar mart if I had my name and herd number wrote down on a bit of paper I could hand to the drover if required for him to pass to the auctioneers assistant?

Albert Johnson

josephsoap wrote: »

A mart which I don’t frequent has a rather large sale of incalf heifers coming up soon,

I am just wondering if buying in a mart where the auctioneer and his assistant wouldn’t know you - if you are the highest bidder on a beast - is the lot number and price just recorded and sent to the office?, where I could then present and pay for the lots etc.

Or would it be best in an unfamiliar mart if I had my name and herd number wrote down on a bit of paper I could hand to the drover if required for him to pass to the auctioneers assistant?

Usually they'll ask the man doing the ring to get your name and that will suffice until the office staff get your herd number and official details. Having said that sometimes they won't bother and will just put down "man with red jacket" or some other distinguishing factor. A piece of paper with your details may be handy but isn't essential, they'll set up an account for you in the office if and when you buy anything.

A county councilor used to do clerking in a local mart and of course would never admit to not knowing anyone so he'd just put down a random name and a question mark after it. This often caused problems as if you gave your name in the office afterwards there wasn't anything down to you on the sheets although you may have bought something.

josephsoap

Albert Johnson wrote: »

Usually they'll ask the man doing the ring to get your name and that will suffice until the office staff get your herd number and official details. Having said that sometimes they won't bother and will just put down "man with red jacket" or some other distinguishing factor. A piece of paper with your details may be handy but isn't essential, they'll set up an account for you in the office if and when you buy anything.

A county councilor used to do clerking in a local mart and of course would never admit to not knowing anyone so he'd just put down a random name and a question mark after it. This often caused problems as if you gave your name in the office afterwards there wasn't anything down to you on the sheets although you may have bought something.

Cheers for that Albert.

patsy_mccabe

josephsoap wrote: »

A mart which I don’t frequent has a rather large sale of incalf heifers coming up soon,

I am just wondering if buying in a mart where the auctioneer and his assistant wouldn’t know you - if you are the highest bidder on a beast - is the lot number and price just recorded and sent to the office?, where I could then present and pay for the lots etc.

Or would it be best in an unfamiliar mart if I had my name and herd number wrote down on a bit of paper I could hand to the drover if required for him to pass to the auctioneers assistant?

The other thing to consider is paying for the cattle. If they don't know you and you pay by cheque, they may hold onto the cards till it clears. Happened to me before. If you pay by Credit Card, that won't be a problem.

Some marts also require you to register before hand and they give you a number on a card. Happens at a lot of the pedigree sales or specialist salkes like you are going to. Ask in the office beforehand.

Albert Johnson

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

The other thing to consider is paying for the cattle. If they don't know you and you pay by cheque, they may hold onto the cards till it clears. Happened to me before. If you pay by Credit Card, that won't be a problem.

Soem marts also require you to register before hand and they give you a number. Happens at a lot of teh pedigree sales or specialist salkes liek you ar eging to.

I agree about the differences in payment terms but that shouldn't be a problem either way and will resolve itself. As for pre registering and bidding numbers it's not something I've ever really seen at normal marts, it's more of a trade mark of pedigree sales, machinery auctions ect. Often times you have to pay a deposit that's refundable if you don't buy anything.

Another thing I'd always check is that the stock were put into the right herd number as they'll often be numerous accounts on the computer system with the same name and slip ups do occur. Usually the movement from the seller's to the buyer's herd isn't completed for a day or two after the sale but incorrect movements have to reported to the department before they can be rectified to prevent further confusion.

josephsoap

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

The other thing to consider is paying for the cattle. If they don't know you and you pay by cheque, they may hold onto the cards till it clears. Happened to me before. If you pay by Credit Card, that won't be a problem.

Some marts also require you to register before hand and they give you a number on a card. Happens at a lot of the pedigree sales or specialist salkes like you are going to. Ask in the office beforehand.

Cheers for that Patsy, I intend to pay via debit card, but I suppose I should give the mart a call just to ensure the have the facilities to accept same, which I suspect nearly all marts have now anyway.

kk.man

josephsoap wrote: »

Cheers for that Patsy, I intend to pay via debit card, but I suppose I should give the mart a call just to ensure the have the facilities to accept same, which I suspect nearly all marts have now anyway.

I always pay by debit card, its much cheaper than a cheque. I cant understand the amount of younger farmers still paying by cheque at the counter.
On the flipside I bought stock recently and my card wouldn't work for some reason, I always bring my cheque book just in case.

Limestone Cowboy

kk.man wrote: »

I always pay by debit card, its much cheaper than a cheque. I cant understand the amount of younger farmers still paying by cheque at the counter.
On the flipside I bought stock recently and my card wouldn't work for some reason, I always bring my cheque book just in case.

That happened me a few months ago aswell. Card wouldn't work, fair embarrassing. Didn't want to take a cheque off me then and had to log into my online banking to show I had the money in my account.

Muckit

I pay by EFT when l get home. No chequebook.

patsy_mccabe

Muckit wrote: »

I pay by EFT when l get home. No chequebook.

So they let you home with the cattle without paying.

Muckit

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

So they let you home with the cattle without paying.

Yep. First time l did it (5years ago), they brought me in behind the counter and l did it on their computer.

Now l suppose they can see that l had paid them like that the rest of the time and my account is clear from time before. I'd always do it that evening.

Welding Rod

I thought debit card is limited to €700 max per day!!!
At least that applies on BOI card ..... I think anyway...

I use it for all transactions up to that amount, but have to go to the cheque book for amounts above that.

Am I out of date in my thinking??

WR

kk.man

Welding Rod wrote: »

I thought debit card is limited to €700 max per day!!!
At least that applies on BOI card ..... I think anyway...

I use it for all transactions up to that amount, but have to go to the cheque book for amounts above that.

Am I out of date in my thinking??

WR

The 700 euro maybe a limit for cash from the ATM which you can increase to 1500.

Welding Rod

kk.man wrote: »

The 700 euro maybe a limit for cash from the ATM which you can increase to 1500.

I’m sure I tried to pay for a topper a few years ago with the card. Wouldn’t accept the amount which was €1100 as I recall, even though plenty funds available.

Anto_Meath

I think you can put up to €10 K on a visa debit card, I know you can defiantly do that with a credit card as I had to do it earlier this year when I bought a car and they wouldn't take a cheque, so I rang the bank they told me to transfer the funds to my credit card account and then pay with it that way. If you contact a mart before the sale and say you are going to the next mart and then they can do a bit of back ground check on you and will usually take a cheque from you.

kk.man

Welding Rod wrote: »

I’m sure I tried to pay for a topper a few years ago with the card. Wouldn’t accept the amount which was €1100 as I recall, even though plenty funds available.

I think those machines operate on phone reception which might not always work, id try it again and pretty sure it works.

Who2

If it’s a business account card some of the banks can charge up around 20€ per 1k. I learnt that the hard way. I’ve bought in a fair few marts around the country and I’ve yet to be refused to take a cheque. And they wouldn’t have known me.

Bass Reeves

Who2 wrote: »

If it’s a business account card some of the banks can charge up around 20€ per 1k. I learnt that the hard way. I’ve bought in a fair few marts around the country and I’ve yet to be refused to take a cheque. And they wouldn’t have known me.

That is only of you take cash out.

Who2

Bass Reeves wrote: »

That is only of you take cash out.

No, got caught last year by using the business card rather than the farm one as I hadn’t planned on buying anything I hadn’t it with me.

Gman1987

Anto_Meath wrote: »

I think you can put up to €10 K on a visa debit card, I know you can defiantly do that with a credit card as I had to do it earlier this year when I bought a car and they wouldn't take a cheque, so I rang the bank they told me to transfer the funds to my credit card account and then pay with it that way. If you contact a mart before the sale and say you are going to the next mart and then they can do a bit of back ground check on you and will usually take a cheque from you.

I'm with AIB and I think the limit for the debit card is a little over 7k so either buy less than 7k worth of cattle in the one day or bring the cheque book!

Welding Rod

Ger1987 wrote: »

I'm with AIB and I think the limit for the debit card is a little over 7k so either buy less than 7k worth of cattle in the one day or bring the cheque book!

Sure €7k would buy all the cattle in the country now .....

Bass Reeves

Ger1987 wrote: »

I'm with AIB and I think the limit for the debit card is a little over 7k so either buy less than 7k worth of cattle in the one day or bring the cheque book!

The difference in cost between a cheque and debit card is a little with a euro. I think. I always have both with me. Last time I bought cattle about I gave two cheque's. One payment on the day and one post dated 10 days as I expected to move cattle the following week. Had only once dealt with that mart before and they had lost that record.. Both cheque's were for.more than 6k.

Because I buy off farms a bit cheque's are the preferred option. I once bought cattle off a farmer (more cattle than I wanted to) and he agreed to wait for money in until.I sold within a month.
On the QT he asked my agent to let him know when I sold. Agent gave me the heads up I have rang him anyway but I rang him before they.went to the factory to tell him I have his.money in a few days.

Dozer1

Suckler sale last night in Gortalea
Good LM 4 years old 1200 to 1400 give or take calving feb to the LM bull good money I thought for the year that's in it.

Pb aa were for nothing now they were poor catitle to be fair.

Pb LM sold then in calf heifers were 1200 to 1880 thought milk was scarce in them.
One cow made over 3k

Lady Haywire

https://twitter.com/LadyHaywire/status/1192923365473959937

Danzy

Lady Haywire wrote: »

https://twitter.com/LadyHaywire/status/1192923365473959937

Christ above.

patsy_mccabe

Dozer1 wrote: »

Suckler sale last night in Gortalea
Good LM 4 years old 1200 to 1400 give or take calving feb to the LM bull good money I thought for the year that's in it.

Pb aa were for nothing now they were poor catitle to be fair.

Pb LM sold then in calf heifers were 1200 to 1880 thought milk was scarce in them.
One cow made over 3k

Were they purebred registered? It never said that on the Donedeal add.

older by the day

You don't know what, tall montbellarde bullocks 500 kg would make , I have a buyer calling

Dozer1

Yes Patsy they were registered. The were in great order but too muscly for my liking. I have the catalogue somewhere if u want it.

patsy_mccabe

Dozer1 wrote: »

Yes Patsy they were registered. The were in great order but too muscly for my liking. I have the catalogue somewhere if u want it.

If you could throw up a few pedigree names, that would do.

Lady Haywire

Danzy wrote: »

Christ above.

I'm taking that as .....good?:pac:

Danzy

It is.

Some calf.

Albert Johnson

older by the day wrote: »

You don't know what, tall montbellarde bullocks 500 kg would make , I have a buyer calling

I could be way out but circa €1.50 a kilo? Perhaps less if very hard, extreme types, they might make a bit more but you can buy great continental stores at €2 a kilo atm here in the West.

Lady Haywire

Danzy wrote: »

It is.

Some calf.

1730 he said. Would have bred her only I told him about her bad leg.

TooOldBoots

Lady Haywire wrote: »

https://twitter.com/LadyHaywire/status/1192923365473959937

To me it looks like that animal has some form of birth defect equivalent to spina bifida. The calf is hunched, and it's still got it even when mature. I wouldn't be a fan of those Culards

Lady Haywire

TooOldBoots wrote: »

To me it looks like that animal has some form of birth defect equivalent to spina bifida. The calf is hunched, and it's still got it even when mature. I wouldn't be a fan of those Culards

:rolleyes:
Tis hard to please everyone.

TooOldBoots

I'm not looking to be please or kiss ass, I'm just stating whats obvious. No need to get offended

Lady Haywire

TooOldBoots wrote: »

I'm not looking to be please or kiss ass, I'm just stating whats obvious. No need to get offended

Where did I say i was offended?

TooOldBoots

Well a normal reaction would be to discuss the animal and its traits. Not come back with a 1 liner looking for thumbs up

Lady Haywire

TooOldBoots wrote: »

Well a normal reaction would be to discuss the animal and its traits. Not come back with a 1 liner looking for thumbs up

Right well we'll throw it out there so, who else thinks the heifer had spina bifida.