Which degree course for computers?

twilight_singer

TallGlass wrote: »

Thanks again, that's what I was thinking, but then again this been Ireland I wasn't sure if it was 2700 registration fee then the cost per module.

Company don't pay for workers to do courses, I will be paying it myself, so don't think I am open to any grants or anything.

Not sure if this would interest you but I did this course a few years ago:

http://www.it-tallaght.ie/index.cfm/page/coursept?id=154

Fees are Eur 1200m per year as its a Flite course (A Flexible Information Technology Education)

Its really good course and fairly broad.

"This programme is supported by the Higher Education Authority. Consequently, the fee per academic year is only €1200 (3 years) (inclusive of ITT Dublin registration fee and examination fee). All students who apply for this course will be assessed for the eligibility for this HEA subsidy and this will be awarded to all eligible applicants (please see page 132 of the part-time prospectus for further information)"

MajorMax

TallGlass wrote: »

I have applied in the end for the course in DIT;

BSc Information Systems and Information Technology

Will continue to study for my CCNA in the time being until I hear something back from DIT. On the CCNA is it necessary to read every single topic in the books? If I was to just cover the key topics would that cover me?

Employer would pay for the course, but going to pay with my own money that way if I mess up it won't get in me in trouble, plus with my own money I think I will be more determined to show up/do well in the course.

As for the VCP have no idea what that is and with Microsoft certs I have no idea where to start.

Good luck with the Degree, hope you see it through. I am seriously considering this degree next year, I want to do a foundation course in Maths first as I'm quite a long time out of school. Please keep us advised of how you get on

Cuddlesworth

MajorMax wrote: »

Good luck with the Degree, hope you see it through. I am seriously considering this degree next year, I want to do a foundation course in Maths first as I'm quite a long time out of school. Please keep us advised of how you get on

Honestly, you would be much better off justing hitting the Khan academy math section for 20 minutes a evening. You will probably end up at honors level maths in a month or two.

TallGlass

twilight_singer wrote: »

Not sure if this would interest you but I did this course a few years ago:

http://www.it-tallaght.ie/index.cfm/page/coursept?id=154

Fees are Eur 1200m per year as its a Flite course (A Flexible Information Technology Education)

Its really good course and fairly broad.

"This programme is supported by the Higher Education Authority. Consequently, the fee per academic year is only €1200 (3 years) (inclusive of ITT Dublin registration fee and examination fee). All students who apply for this course will be assessed for the eligibility for this HEA subsidy and this will be awarded to all eligible applicants (please see page 132 of the part-time prospectus for further information)"

Is this not as usually targeted at people who are on the Social?

twilight_singer

TallGlass wrote: »

Is this not as usually targeted at people who are on the Social?

Nope, I did it part time while working.

TallGlass

Might look into it, trying to knock the Cisco CCNA out of the way still, its taking forever ! I have the books, a uDemy course and I have access to the old CCNA netacad from college so going over each topic in each, to complement each other. It's starting to stick, my plan is to do this get all the topics out of the way, labs from the CCNA netacad out of the way then just blast questions out of it for around 2 weeks then take the test. Hopefully I pass, aiming for end of August to take the test.

twilight_singer

TallGlass wrote: »

Might look into it, trying to knock the Cisco CCNA out of the way still, its taking forever ! I have the books, a uDemy course and I have access to the old CCNA netacad from college so going over each topic in each, to complement each other. It's starting to stick, my plan is to do this get all the topics out of the way, labs from the CCNA netacad out of the way then just blast questions out of it for around 2 weeks then take the test. Hopefully I pass, aiming for end of August to take the test.

Its tough but worth doing, its great for the CV. Just think of the extra cash when you move on to another role. With your level 1 experience and ccna you will be able to get a decent desktop/network support job

TallGlass

twilight_singer wrote: »

Its tough but worth doing, its great for the CV. Just think of the extra cash when you move on to another role. With your level 1 experience and ccna you will be able to get a decent desktop/network support job

Cheers for the support, appricate it. Making some progress with it going over STP at the moment. Quite alot in it, lots to take in. Then again no one said it was easy!

TallGlass

So just an update, still hammering away at the CCNA and just up as far as Chapter 16, configuring IP routes. Subnetting took me a while to get my head back into that way of thinking but eventually got there.

I also got another offer for a course in NCI BSc(honours) in Computing part time. Its a bit more pricey at 3700€ but would be closer to home I live around the Kilmore area so could cycle into NCI while as Kevin St would be a drive in each evening plus not sure on parking etc..

Tallaght I still have not looked into as the travel might make it awkward to get to from my location.

Is there not grants on this for me part time? I have never been to proper college before to study for a degree.

Hollister11

TallGlass wrote: »

So just an update, still hammering away at the CCNA and just up as far as Chapter 16, configuring IP routes. Subnetting took me a while to get my head back into that way of thinking but eventually got there.

I also got another offer for a course in NCI BSc(honours) in Computing part time. Its a bit more pricey at 3700€ but would be closer to home I live around the Kilmore area so could cycle into NCI while as Kevin St would be a drive in each evening plus not sure on parking etc..

Tallaght I still have not looked into as the travel might make it awkward to get to from my location.

Is there not grants on this for me part time? I have never been to proper college before to study for a degree.

Have a look for SUSI grants.

TallGlass

So ITT got back to me, they want maths and if you ain't got that they want you to do a maths program in August? Think is I don't think I could fit it in during August, I ideally want to be CCNA certified by the end of August/September.

Eire Go Brach

You do realise most degree courses will have enough content to pass the CCNA.

I am probably doing that Maths course myself.

twilight_singer

TallGlass wrote: »

Tallaght I still have not looked into as the travel might make it awkward to get to from my location.
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27 bus goes to tallaght from Coolock, but its a long route

twilight_singer

TallGlass wrote: »

So ITT got back to me, they want maths and if you ain't got that they want you to do a maths program in August? Think is I don't think I could fit it in during August, I ideally want to be CCNA certified by the end of August/September.

Are you under 23? can you not just apply as a mature student, you shouldnt even need the LC for that

Musicman2000

Eire Go Brach wrote: »

You do realise most degree courses will have enough content to pass the CCNA.

I am probably doing that Maths course myself.

Don't agree with you on that one. Some degree courses will touch on some of the CCNA material apart from that not a patch on a full CCNA thats if you want to specialise in networking . As my IT manager once told be he would pick a person with a CCNA and MCSA qualification over a graduate anyway .

Eire Go Brach

Musicman2000 wrote: »

Don't agree with you on that one. Some degree courses will touch on some of the CCNA material apart from that not a patch on a full CCNA thats if you want to specialise in networking . As my IT manager once told be he would pick a person with a CCNA and MCSA qualification over a graduate anyway .

I am going on what I have been told by staff members at IT Tallaght during open days. It is a question I asked. A Graduate from ITB also told me this as well. He never went on to do the exam though. I would imagine it would require extra study though.

IvoryTower

In dkit we followed the ccna course as part of our networking module, we were recommended to sit the ccna exams in the summer

Hollister11

Do National College of Ireland follow CCNA ?

TallGlass

Eire Go Brach wrote: »

You do realise most degree courses will have enough content to pass the CCNA.

Yes? I don't really get this point to be honest, it's not going to harm anyone to do the CCNA now?

CCNA covers networking, the theory's and logic don't just change because its a college course?

If anything, the CCNA will cover me for 4 years, I will be at the end of college in 4 years so will certify again, and have the CCNA and a degree? What's the problem with that? Plenty in the office have there arrangements the same.

BTW the CCNA is no walk in the park that some people have you believe it might even be harder than the college course content, with a pass you need to be above 85%. It would also place me in a postition to tip away at the CCNP over the next few years.

Anyways, ITT have not got back to be so I am between NCI and DIT, both are good colleges, NIC is closer to me and DIT is at Kevin Street, what would a cycle from around Kilmore to there be like?

Cuddlesworth

TallGlass wrote: »

If anything, the CCNA will cover me for 4 years, I will be at the end of college in 4 years so will certify again, and have the CCNA and a degree? What's the problem with that? Plenty in the office have there arrangements the same.

Your cert expires in 2 years unless you do a new exam or one at a equivalent level.

Musicman2000

Eire Go Brach wrote: »

I am going on what I have been told by staff members at IT Tallaght during open days. It is a question I asked. A Graduate from ITB also told me this as well. He never went on to do the exam though. I would imagine it would require extra study though.

Most IT'S like Tallaght are trying to sell these degrees and keep the numbers coming in. I have done a degree in IT and a full CCNA and i can assure you IT Tallaght do not do a full CCNA in their degree. But it will give you a feel for it so its not all bad.

TallGlass

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

Your cert expires in 2 years unless you do a new exam or one at a equivalent level.

We where actually both wrong! I thought it last for 4 years last time I studied

From here

Exams required for CCENT, Associate, and Professional certifications are valid for three years from the date the exam was passed. Exams for the Specialist certifications are valid for two years from the date the exam was passed.

TallGlass

Musicman2000 wrote: »

Most IT'S like Tallaght are trying to sell these degrees and keep the numbers coming in. I have done a degree in IT and a full CCNA and i can assure you IT Tallaght do not do a full CCNA in their degree. But it will give you a feel for it so its not all bad.

At this stage I think I will give ITT a miss, they seem to take an age replying to e-mails.

So its down to DIT or NCI

Cuddlesworth

TallGlass wrote: »

We where actually both wrong! I thought it last for 4 years last time I studied

From here

Thanks, thats new. It used to be two years.

TallGlass

Well just started the DIT course tonight, paid the fee there so committed now. Roll on the next four years !

Also booked the Cisco 200-120 exam for next month, absolutely bricking it. Hopefully not 280€ now the drain, have four chapters left then, then revision, revision, revision till the test date. :eek:

G88

Lads I need help. Want to get into and specialise networking. Already have a diploma in computing. Which course is better- Certificate in Advanced Networking and Cloud Technologies at level 8 with Microsoft Technology Associate in Networking Fundamentals included in DBS or level 6 blanch it Certificate in Cisco CCNA and Systems Administration with Work Experience?

TallGlass

G88 wrote: »

Lads I need help. Want to get into and specialise networking. Already have a diploma in computing. Which course is better- Certificate in Advanced Networking and Cloud Technologies at level 8 with Microsoft Technology Associate in Networking Fundamentals included in DBS or level 6 blanch it Certificate in Cisco CCNA and Systems Administration with Work Experience?

Level 8 will always be better on the framework rather than level 6. You could go level 8 then get the CCNA by yourself.

TallGlass

Well didn't passed missed out by one question I got 812 needed 825 for a pass. Madness.

Cuddlesworth

TallGlass wrote: »

Well didn't passed missed out by one question I got 812 needed 825 for a pass. Madness.

Harsh. I got similar on a CCNP exam, its a real kick in the nuts. Why did you choose to go for the composite exam over the CCENT-CCNA route? I chose that because a exam repeat would only be half the cost.

horgan_p

Book the exam again as fast as you can (I think a month).
Get back in there and don't let the set back get to you