Good luck to the Ireland team at the IAU 24 Hour World Championships!

RayCun

The 11th edition of the 24 Hour World Championships takes place in Turin, Italy April 11-12th 2015. the race will also host the 20th European Championships. The race takes place on a 1700m course and starts at 10am local time.

Eddie Gallen, Eoin Keith, and John O'Regan on the men's team, Ruthann Sheehan and Susan McCartney on the women's team.

(Also, one of the Austrian runners has some medals from Ireland. Make him give them back, I say!)

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Murph_D

1700m course? That's just cruel!

ultraman1

RayCun wrote: »

The 11th edition of the 24 Hour World Championships takes place in Turin, Italy April 11-12th 2015. the race will also host the 20th European Championships. The race takes place on a 1700m course and starts at 10am local time.

Eddie Gallen, Eoin Keith, and John O'Regan on the men's team, Ruthann Sheehan and Susan McCartney on the women's team.

(Also, one of the Austrian runners has some medals from Ireland. Make him give them back, I say!)

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Also Ankers99 and Don hannon are in the open race,and shud post decent distancez

Carpenter

ultraman1 wrote: »

Also Ankers99 and Don hannon are in the open race,and shud post decent distancez

Can anyone enter the open race ??

ultraman1

Carpenter wrote: »

Can anyone enter the open race ??

u had to apply and give previous results,...

crestglan

Best of luck to them

menoscemo

I make it that's 4 regular posters from here competing and 2 account holders/lurkers.
Good luck all!!

ultraman1

all tippin along well,,,cant find updates for the open race

sconhome

ultraman1 wrote: »

all tippin along well,,,cant find updates for the open race

In the window you have a drop down option to pick the race you want results for

Mondiale 24h is default, click for Open

ultraman1

Ruthann and susan bout 10 mins up on the john,eoin and eddie

ultraman1

]Ruthann and susan and thomas couple laps up on the john,eoin and eddie(seems to have slowed down),ankers and don...as far as i can make out ...early days yet

Bugsy2000

Ruthann Sheahan - 9:50 - 52 laps - 88.4km - 6th
Susan McCartney - 9.57 - 52 laps - 88.4km - 10th
Eddie Gallen - 10.00 - 47 laps - 79.9km - 130th
John O' Regan - 9.54 - 46 laps - 78.2km - 135th
Eoin Keith - 9.52 - 45 laps - 76.5km - 143rd

menoscemo

Ruthann is a fantastic 24hr runner. It wouldn't surprise me if she finishes ahead of all the Irish guys. She has been in great form recently and had an injury free buildup

ultraman1

Bugsy2000 wrote: »

Ruthann Sheahan - 9:50 - 52 laps - 88.4km - 6th
Susan McCartney - 9.57 - 52 laps - 88.4km - 10th
Eddie Gallen - 10.00 - 47 laps - 79.9km - 130th
John O' Regan - 9.54 - 46 laps - 78.2km - 135th
Eoin Keith - 9.52 - 45 laps - 76.5km - 143rd

Don and ankers around similar distance aswell

ThebitterLemon

menoscemo wrote: »

Ruthann is a fantastic 24hr runner. It wouldn't surprise me if she finishes ahead of all the Irish guys. She has been in great form recently and had an injury free buildup

I've run a few marathons with her a couple of years ago, she has come on hugely since then, very dedicated and determined. Sound gal as well, hope she has a great run.

Didn't she finish just behind JOR at something similar a year or two ago Meno?

TbL

ultraman1

ThebitterLemon wrote: »

I've run a few marathons with her a couple of years ago, she has come on hugely since then, very dedicated and determined. Sound gal as well, hope she has a great run.

Didn't she finish just behind JOR at something similar a year or two ago Meno?

TbL

finished withabout 400 metres less than him on her first international outing

menoscemo

ThebitterLemon wrote: »

I've run a few marathons with her a couple of years ago, she has come on hugely since then, very dedicated and determined. Sound gal as well, hope she has a great run.

Didn't she finish just behind JOR at something similar a year or two ago Meno?

TbL

Yes I believe he had to put in a fast final 30 minutes to get ahead of her in the Irish championships a few years ago!!

ThebitterLemon

ultraman1 wrote: »

finished withabout 400 metres less than him on her first international outing

Tnx UM,

That was some impressive debut, I think she was leading the Irish contingent for most of the race. Think she was injured for a while thereafter.

TbL

Bugsy2000

Just realised that the distances I entered above are probably wrong. I thought I read the course was 1.7km long but it's actually 2km, so they've run longer than I've input above.

ultraman1

Ruthann and susan still in front,eddie stiil goin well,eoin and jor few km back,thomas doin well,don and ankers still goin well

ultraman1

ultraman1 wrote: »

Ruthann and susan still in front,eddie stiil goin well,eoin and jor few km back,thomas doin well,don and ankers still goin well

Snkers on 90 laps,don on 85,thomas on 90+

ultraman1

Final results...will be a few meteres added on aswell....
don 95 laps
ankers 99 laps
thonad 108 laps

Bugsy2000

It looks like Ruthann stopped with 23.16 gone whilst on 112 laps & in 4th spot. Ended up in 11th & 5k shy of her own national record (I think).

Calvin Johnson

Looks like a good performance from Thomas Bubendorfer?

TFBubendorfer

Bugsy2000 wrote: »

It looks like Ruthann stopped with 23.16 gone whilst on 112 laps & in 4th spot. Ended up in 11th & 5k shy of her own national record (I think).

Ruthann was just awesome for about 21 hours but started faltering. She was in a medal position for both the World and European championship but by 23 hours had dropped out of the medals in worlds and was about to be overtaken by the Swedish girl to lose her medal position in the Europeans as well.

According to her husband she was weaving all over the place and he pulled her off the course because he was seriously worried about her health. Apparently it took him and 4 medics to drag her into the medical tent against her will!

I didn't see her at all afterward because she was still receiving treatment.

She is an awesome runner and there will be more championships in the future.

Bugsy2000

We figured it must have been a medical alright.

With the weekend that's in it I dredged up Ruthann's report from the 2012 Worlds, I've linked it below fro anyone who's interested;

http://www.athenryac.com/sites/default/files/newsfiles/katowice_24hr_race_report.pdf

ThisRegard

It literally just dawned on me that I've met Ankers. A couple of years ago coming back from a broken collar bone I decided to do a bit of bootcamp style training to go along with the cycling I was doing at the time, he was one of instructors and good he was/is too.

I also remember being pretty much universally derided here when at a later stage I said there's some pretty good guys involved when it comes to running, apparently they didn't exist outside of a club environment.

He came 5th in the event he ran in.

ultraman1

ThisRegard wrote: »

It literally just dawned on me that I've met Ankers. A couple of years ago coming back from a broken collar bone I decided to do a bit of bootcamp style training to go along with the cycling I was doing at the time, he was one of instructors and good he was/is too.

I also remember being pretty much universally derided here when at a later stage I said there's some pretty good guys involved when it comes to running, apparently they didn't exist outside of a club environment.

He came 5th in the event he ran in.

first irish man and runs for dublin bay running club

TFBubendorfer

ultraman1 wrote: »

first irish man

*cough* *cough*

aquinn

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

*cough* *cough*

How did you get on then? Some challenge, well done.

RayCun

ultraman1 wrote: »

first irish man and runs for dublin bay running club

they're just affiliating with Dublin Board/AAI now, a few of them were along at DAB meeting on Monday

TFBubendorfer

aquinn wrote: »

How did you get on then? Some challenge, well done.

I came 60th overall, 2nd Austrian / 1st Irishman, depending how you classify me.

Considering that I spent most of Thursday afternoon wrapped around a toilet and was close to tears during a hospital visit because I thought that almost 2 years of preparations had just gone straight out of the window just like that, I'm more than happy.

On the Irish team, both Eoin and John had serious stomach troubles, hence their rather modest totals. Steady Eddie kept going until the end but didn't have his best race either. All 3 of them have PBs better than mine and just because I finished ahead of them on this occasion won't make me think that I'm Ireland's best (male) 24 hours runner all of a sudden.

Brian and Don had a few troubles as well. Brian spent some time in the medical tent and Don had to take a couple of hours rest during the night. Both of them finished very strongly but obviously had not spent the entire 24 hours on their feet.

ultraman1

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

I came 60th overall, 2nd Austrian / 1st Irishman, depending how you classify me. .

5th placed german...:)

Enduro

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

*cough* *cough*

Make your mind up, Jonah

Enduro

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

On the Irish team, both Eoin and John had serious stomach troubles, hence their rather modest totals. Steady Eddie kept going until the end but didn't have his best race either.

Actually I had no stomach problems at all. I had an injury flare up after about 3 hours or so, which I managed to control very well for the following 6 hours or so, but then I starterd getting a second issue, no doubt caused by compensating for the first injury. That required a lot of intervention from the fantastic Irish support crew, who got me back out on the course again. Unfortunately I wasn't able to recover enough to properly get running again so I eventually had to come back in to the support crew.

average_runner

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

I came 60th overall, 2nd Austrian / 1st Irishman, depending how you classify me.

Considering that I spent most of Thursday afternoon wrapped around a toilet and was close to tears during a hospital visit because I thought that almost 2 years of preparations had just gone straight out of the window just like that, I'm more than happy.

On the Irish team, both Eoin and John had serious stomach troubles, hence their rather modest totals. Steady Eddie kept going until the end but didn't have his best race either. All 3 of them have PBs better than mine and just because I finished ahead of them on this occasion won't make me think that I'm Ireland's best (male) 24 hours runner all of a sudden.

Brian and Don had a few troubles as well. Brian spent some time in the medical tent and Don had to take a couple of hours rest during the night. Both of them finished very strongly but obviously had not spent the entire 24 hours on their feet.

Sounds like ye all had a tough time out there. Congrats to ye all on doing this and doing so well.

TFBubendorfer

Enduro wrote: »

Actually I had no stomach problems at all. I had an injury flare up after about 3 hours or so, which I managed to control very well for the following 6 hours or so, but then I starterd getting a second issue, no doubt caused by compensating for the first injury. That required a lot of intervention from the fantastic Irish support crew, who got me back out on the course again. Unfortunately I wasn't able to recover enough to properly get running again so I eventually had to come back in to the support crew.

Apologies Enduro - for some reason I had it in my head that you had gotten similar stomach issues to myself but one day later, which would have buggered anyone's race.

ultraman1 wrote: »

5th placed german...:)

Ok, so. I was ...

60th in the World
47th European
5th German
2nd Austrian
1st Irish

I'm highly international, me!

menoscemo

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

60th in the World
47th European
5th German
2nd Austrian
1st Irish

I'm highly international, me!

Isn't Ruthann Irish? *cough cough*

Well done Thomas, sounds like a very tough race with the heat and you came much closer to your PB than most.

Would you say you prefer the 2k loops or the 400m track loops?

TFBubendorfer

menoscemo wrote: »

Isn't Ruthann Irish? *cough cough*

Well done Thomas, sounds like a very tough race with the heat and you came much closer to your PB than most.

Would you say you prefer the 2k loops or the 400m track loops?

Ruthann is as Irish as they come but that list is males only. Obviously!

That 2k loop was much tougher than a 400m track; new world champion Florian Reus blames the ramp into the stadium we had to run up and down each time for the generally modest totals. Even something as small as 6 meters elevation does add up after a while.

Even without that ramp I think I'm mentally more suited to a 400m track. I find running on a small loop almost hypnotising - I just go into the zone and stay there. On Saturday I never really managed to tune out completely and there was much more mental effort involved.

Djoucer

How do you mentally deal with races such as these?

Do you employ any sort of psychological tricks?

I would've thought something like a small ramp would be good, as it breaks the monotony. But seems to have opposite effect, it takes you out of the zone.

Great result.

TFBubendorfer

Djoucer wrote: »

How do you mentally deal with races such as these?

The mental side is the crucial bit. For some reason I seem to be able to handle it better than most, which is why I am a much better 24 hrs runners than for any other distance. I could not possibly hope to make an international team for any other race, even for 100k I am still miles off the pace but for 24 hrs I qualified comfortably with plenty to spare.

Djoucer wrote:

Do you employ any sort of psychological tricks?

Me? Not really, at least not consciously. I try to tune out and get into "the zone" but found that really hard on Saturday. One thing is, you cannot focus on the entire race so you just try to complete the present lap and not think ahead. Once that is done you focus entirely on the next single lap. So, maybe that is a psychological trick, alright.

Last year I read a book about self hypnosis that had been recommended by an (exceptionally good) ultra runner, but I could not get into that at all. That's not me. Basically, I just run until they tell me to stop.

Djoucer wrote:

I would've thought something like a small ramp would be good, as it breaks the monotony. But seems to have opposite effect, it takes you out of the zone.

Before the race I thought running up and down the ramp might actually help as it uses the legs muscles slightly differently, but eventually had to conclude that this was not the case.

Djoucer wrote:

Great result.

Thanks.


By the way, did anyone actually mention yet that we had two fires in the stadium (with smoke and smell and gloriously big fire engines and all) during the night and that the stadium itself was pitch dark for about 45 minutes (related to the first fire) and only lit by a couple of dozen people who happened to bring along headlamps?

chickey2

Well done to everyone involved. I'm in total awe of anyone who can run for 24 hours. I would struggle to say awake for that long! i just read that report that Ruthanne Sheehan wrote and was fascinated.

The mental side is the crucial bit. For some reason I seem to be able to handle it better than most, which is why I am a much better 24 hrs runners than for any other distance. I could not possibly hope to make an international team for any other race, even for 100k I am still miles off the pace but for 24 hrs I qualified comfortably with plenty to spare.

TFBubendorfer, i think this is what i find so interesting, how important the mental aspect of this kind of race is. Would it be right to say men and women can compete more equally? Also, it seems older people can outdo the youngsters in this kind of race.

Enduro, I think it was you who mentioned you ran the Wicklow way and ate only a jaffa cake! What, if anything do you eat during a 24 hour?

TFBubendorfer

If you happen to have a lot of spare time on your hands and are desperate to fill it with something, you can have a look at my race report from Turin: http://rubbishrunner.blogspot.com/2015/04/2015-24-hours-world-championships-turin_16.html

There are also entries dealing with the days before http://rubbishrunner.blogspot.com/2015/04/2015-24-hours-world-championships-turin_15.html

and after the race http://rubbishrunner.blogspot.com/2015/04/2015-24-hours-world-championships-turin.html

for the ones looking for a cure to insomnia.

aquinn

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

If you happen to have a lot of spare time on your hands and are desperate to fill it with something, you can have a look at my race report from Turin: http://rubbishrunner.blogspot.com/2015/04/2015-24-hours-world-championships-turin_16.html

There are also entries dealing with the days before http://rubbishrunner.blogspot.com/2015/04/2015-24-hours-world-championships-turin_15.html

and after the race http://rubbishrunner.blogspot.com/2015/04/2015-24-hours-world-championships-turin.html

for the ones looking for a cure to insomnia.

Thanks for posting that up. What a read and OMFG congratulations. That is brilliant. Well done.

George Chinaglia

Seconded. Brilliant race report but more importantly phenomenal performance. Huge congratulations

Ososlo

Wow that's some achievement Thomas. Mind boggling...
Congratulations! A lot of drama too with the illness beforehand and the fire in the stadium!!! Do you think the sickness in the days leading up to it affected your performance a lot on the day or had you recovered fully?

How is the recovery going since the race? When will you run again?

nop98

TFBubendorfer wrote: »

If you happen to have a lot of spare time on your hands and are desperate to fill it with something, you can have a look at my race report from Turin: http://rubbishrunner.blogspot.com/2015/04/2015-24-hours-world-championships-turin_16.html

There are also entries dealing with the days before http://rubbishrunner.blogspot.com/2015/04/2015-24-hours-world-championships-turin_15.html

and after the race http://rubbishrunner.blogspot.com/2015/04/2015-24-hours-world-championships-turin.html

for the ones looking for a cure to insomnia.

What a super achievement and great write-up. Unreal !

TFBubendorfer

chickey2 wrote: »

TFBubendorfer, i think this is what i find so interesting, how important the mental aspect of this kind of race is. Would it be right to say men and women can compete more equally? Also, it seems older people can outdo the youngsters in this kind of race.

Basic speed is not important in a 24 hrs, so older runners are often still able to run impressive performances. At the same time, it's not that unusual for a woman to win an ultra outright, and right now there are very few men in Ireland who can challenge Ruthann Sheahan.

On the other hand, the best runners still tend to be males in their 20s or early 30s. E.g. new world champion Florian Reus is a student. The field might be slightly more even but clearly not completely so.

Ososlo wrote: »

Do you think the sickness in the days leading up to it affected your performance a lot on the day or had you recovered fully?

How is the recovery going since the race? When will you run again?

I think in the end it had no effect but it sure was a close call. Recovery is quite slow. I've been a bit sick since the race and am only just getting better. The legs are still sore! I'll probably run when the missus throws me out of the house - after the last race that only took 10 days :-)

Dubgal72

Huge congratulations TFBubendorfer, fantastic achievement! Great reports but...I think you have to change your blog title now