Red Dead Redemption 2

Potential-Monke

It would be awesome if you could 'holler' for a delivery dude to bring your pelts back to camp, for a fee of course. It really takes away from the hunting if you can technically only hunt 1 big animal at a time.

GTTDI GOD

In freeroam, has anyone been looking into the different mysteries and such?

recyclops

I thought it was never gonna end, it really became quite tedious near the end. I know what rockstar were trying to do but by the end of it I was glad to turn it off😕

The Nal

GTTDI GOD wrote: »

In freeroam, has anyone been looking into the different mysteries and such?

Yep.

Ive played more hours now as John than Arthur. Bang the cheats on and go rambling.

BelovedAunt

Chapter 5 is one of the most misguided things I’ve ever seen in a huge game. Just so badly done.

Penfailed

I've only started Chapter 3. Really enjoying it...I can understand how people have been getting fed up with the constant long treks but I suppose when you only play the game on a Friday and Saturday night the novelty doesn't wear off as quickly.

Riddle101

Finally won a big game of poker. Made €25 out it so not bad. I usually play until either I lose or grow tired of the game, but this time I played right through to the end.

Potential-Monke

Riddle101 wrote: »

Finally won a big game of poker. Made €25 out it so not bad. I usually play until either I lose or grow tired of the game, but this time I played right through to the end.

What I found with poker in this is that it's not worth the time. Grand if you're only looking to relax and play a bit of poker, it can be fine, but as a game mechanic for making money, the return is not worth the time investment, even in St. Denis.

Riddle101

Potential-Monke wrote: »

What I found with poker in this is that it's not worth the time. Grand if you're only looking to relax and play a bit of poker, it can be fine, but as a game mechanic for making money, the return is not worth the time investment, even in St. Denis.

I mainly play it to relax, but if I play a big game I do get a satisfaction out of winning and taking all the winnings.

The Nal

Riddle101 wrote: »

Finally won a big game of poker. Made €25 out it so not bad. I usually play until either I lose or grow tired of the game, but this time I played right through to the end.

I don't know how to play poker so I usually lose and then I fire bomb everyone

Riddle101

The Nal wrote: »

I don't know how to play poker so I usually lose and then I fire bomb everyone

The game is actually helping me learn how to play poker. Never really played it before I got Red Dead 2.

dr.kenneth noisewater

Anyone have issues with camp request items not being where their supposed to be? Couldn't find the pocket mirror or Pipe.

Dr. Bre

Only played the poker cos it’s part of the challenges

Penfailed

The Nal wrote: »

I don't know how to play poker so I usually lose and then I fire bomb everyone

They have instructions for all the games in one of the menus.

ERG89

Dr. Bre wrote:

Only played the poker cos it’s part of the challenges

I miss Liar's Dice.

MiskyBoyy

Fix your spoiler tags there bahh

20silkcut

MiskyBoyy wrote: »

Fix your spoiler tags there bahh

Ah jaysus it came up blacked out to me

Jordan 199

I wish I could master Fiver Finger Fillet.

Corvo

BelovedAunt wrote: »

Chapter 5 is one of the most misguided things I’ve ever seen in a huge game. Just so badly done.

Spent most of it just shaking my head. Really hurt the overall pacing of it for me.

SomeSayKos

BelovedAunt wrote: »

Chapter 5 is one of the most misguided things I’ve ever seen in a huge game. Just so badly done.

I thought it was excellent personally. Was not expecting it at all

DEFTLEFTHAND

Has anyones horse just dropped dead all of a sudden?

I was in having a meal in Van Horn and when I came out my horse was on the ground dead. There was no option to revive him.

Pretty pissed off about it.

wotzgoingon

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Has anyones horse just dropped dead all of a sudden?

I was in having a meal in Van Horn and when I came out my horse was on the ground dead. There was no option to revive him.

Pretty pissed off about it.

Were you feeding him?

Jordan 199

Van Horn is some rough joint. I don't go there unless I have to.

DEFTLEFTHAND

wotzgoingon wrote: »

Were you feeding him?

Probably not often enough. An apple or oatcakes about every couple of days.

I had been riding him very hard leading up to his death. I was chased down from O'Creaghs Run to Annesburg by a group of Bounty hunters and I think he took a few bullet wounds himself in the course of the chase.

I'm so immersed in the game at this stage that I'm actually really sorry about him.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Jordan 199 wrote: »

Van Horn is some rough joint. I don't go there unless I have to.

Jesus ya, the locals in the saloon will fight you in an instant. All it takes is one antagonising comment.

The next thing the entire town start opening fire.

DEFTLEFTHAND

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Jesus ya, the locals in the saloon will fight you in an instant. All it takes is one antagonising comment.

The next thing the entire town start opening fire.

Butchers Creek is worse, one wrong move and you end up shooting the whole village.

Thatnastyboy

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Butchers Creek is worse, one wrong move and you end up shooting the whole village.

I find the residents of Van Horn a lot harder to kill though, I can handle Obediah & Co fairly handy :pac:

Underground

Youtuber called Nakeyjakey just uploaded a really good video about the game. Sums up how I feel about it really. Story is fantastic, the characters are great, but man, the missions aren't anything special in terms of gameplay really.

wotzgoingon

DEFTLEFTHAND wrote: »

Probably not often enough. An apple or oatcakes about every couple of days.

I had been riding him very hard leading up to his death. I was chased down from O'Creaghs Run to Annesburg by a group of Bounty hunters and I think he took a few bullet wounds himself in the course of the chase.

I'm so immersed in the game at this stage that I'm actually really sorry about him.

You have to go into settings and check his weight. I do it often as well as check on Arthur's weight also. You would be surprised how often you have to feed both of them.

I'm the same regarding being attached to my horse so much so that I have not purchased a better stats horse.

Tip for the final bandit challenge and making it super easy

keep buying train tickets, when you get to the station run to the back of the train and in the carriage after the passenger ones you will see a crate on the left with a can of food on it, picking this up counts as robbery but no attention from the law.

Potential-Monke

So ploughed through a few missions in Chapter 6 last night and I just want it to end. Being wanted DoA and not having the ability to fast travel within that region has really dragged out this last chapter and I'm still struggling to finish it.

Nerdlingr

Ive been on the

epilogues

for about 2 weeks now. Finding it a slog to finish. Started out brilliantly in the snow, set the story up for something epic... and then it was a just descended into endlessly listening to Dutch going on about "we need more money!" :rolleyes::(

wotzgoingon

wotzgoingon wrote: »

I'm glad to get off that damn

island.

I do not read the spoilers in this thread or even websites online about the game but I'm starting to think there

is a rat

in the gang.

Seems like they

get set up too often

.

Well my hunch was right. I'm in Chapter VI now and the

rat got shot by a shot gun. I was a bit surprised by Arthur's response to it considering they are a out law gang and he knew the rules.

Riddle101

Has anyone else found the braithwaite secret? Found some woman locked up in outhouse or something, just outside the braithwaite manor.It looks like she might be crazy or has mental health issues. Arthur writes about it in his journal that people like her don't get treated very well so I'm lead to believe she might mental health issues and was locked up or something, but i'm just guessing. I tried to break her out but was unable to, tried shooting the chain and I even used dynamite but nothing worked.

20silkcut

Nerdlingr wrote: »

Ive been on the

epilogues

for about 2 weeks now. Finding it a slog to finish. Started out brilliantly in the snow, set the story up for something epic... and then it was a just descended into endlessly listening to Dutch going on about "we need more money!" :rolleyes::(

Actually finding the epilogues quite interesting. Nice change of a pace from a gang in meltdown on the run with Pinkertons breathing down their neck to a family man trying to go straight moonlighting as a gun slinger.The skinner gang are some shower of psychos the fiercest gang in the game.
Had the most enjoyable intense gun fights with them punctuated with psychos charging you with machetes.

Nerdlingr

20silkcut wrote: »

Actually finding the epilogues quite interesting. Nice change of a pace from a gang in meltdown on the run with Pinkertons breathing down their neck to a family man trying to go straight moonlighting as a gun slinger.The skinner gang are some shower of psychos the fiercest gang in the game.
Had the most enjoyable intense gun fights with them punctuated with psychos charging you with machetes.

Yeah i loved the skinner gang too, probably my favourite gang in it! I actually like the epilogue as such, john putting his hat/gear back on was a great moment, brought a smile to my face... but a rare moment at that. I liked what they tried to do with the epilogue but when i built the house it was back to doing chores round the house/farm again - which we know from the gang camps has no real bearing on anything.
I haven't finished it yet so i expect them to tie it all together .. and i really like most of the missions in the epilogue...getting married, building the house etc etc ..but its just dragging to its inevitable conclusion for me. maybe if they got rid of chapter five, and less..."we need more money"... had more actual gang related activity - more robbing banks/trains etc and different type of missions i would have enjoyed it more.

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Standman

Having finished the main story, I have to say I didn't enjoy it as much as I expected. I really wanted to like it, but the missions got a bit tedious and repetitive ("we gotta get outta here" > everyone shoots > repeat).

On paper it's a great game. The world is amazing, but it just wasn't as enjoyable or memorable as some of the GTA games for some reason.

The Nal

Out of the 40 or 50 hours it takes to complete the game, 30 odd hours of it is just this

Potential-Monke

Just started the Epilogue last night. The ending,

I suppose because Arthur was sick for the last chapter or 2, his death didn't really shock me. But my god, I did not expect Ahaon to bite the bullet. I've had him since the very beginning, and the 30 seconds Arthur spent with him at the end very nearly brought out the tears. Interesting to see the epilogue being played as John. I'd imagine it will set up RDR1, which I still hope they will release for this. Like, why do the physical copies of the game have a map for both America and Mexico?

Speaking of playing as John, when it first cut to them after end-game, and they were heading to Strawberry. It's like they never even heard of it before, and they camped nearby for the first half of the game. Are we supposed to believe that the distances between the towns are further than they actually are?

Anyway, will finish this up over the next couple of nights, happy to be finishing it to be honest. It's a great game, but Chapter V and VI really took the swing out of it and was a slog to finish. I'm happy to be finished it, and have no intention of playing it again. I will pick it up again in 6-12 months, hopefully they'll have more SP content and some game balances, and preferably an anywhere/anytime fast travel option, or at the least more stagecoach stops!

Thatnastyboy

The Nal wrote: »

Out of the 40 or 50 hours it takes to complete the game, 30 odd hours of it is just this
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Depends what you make of it IMO, lot of travelling alright but the world never switches off - when riding one place to another I tend to keep an eye out for perfect animal specimens, things to loot, random encounters, interesting places & legendary animals etc.

I'm about 100 hours in and only started the 1st epilogue, and am nowhere near bored yet...

Depends what you want from it I guess

Leroy42

I'm going to put all spoliers on this, might not be needed but better safe than sorry.

I think they didn't flesh out the other characters enough, or explain why Arthur and the rest would continually accept the situation. Dutch could be a great character, but he is one dimensional. He has a belief, but nothing he does makes much sense. He's this leader, yet continually lead the gang the wrong way. He is supposed to be focused on this overall plan, yet easily gets sidetracked with Colm O'Driscoll or other things. "We need more money", yet they have ample opportunities to get money.

And why wouldn't the O'Driscolls target Morgan directly? He clearly is the single most important member of the gang. Take him out and the gang would fold.

Why does Saidi stay with the gang? They could have made more of her journey from wife to criminal. They could have had more missions where she develops from the moping and seemingly hopeless person in the first camp to the bad ass, revenge driven super she becomes.

Rather than the simple robbing stage coaches that you do on your own, they should have involved more the ladies in the camp. Use that to learn more about their journey, but also show that deep down they are different to Arthur. He happily kills anyone, but they have morals and simple fell in with the gang rather than really believing in it.

Too much time is given over to hunting and money, yet it becomes totally unnecessary as you progress. You end up being rich, yet at no point even think about settling down. Arthur sees the end is coming in terms of the way of life. He has plenty of money, the love of his life would love him back, but for some reason, which apart for Dutch being like a father, never wants to pursue. Now part of that is simply because to do so would make the game pretty boring, but they could have had him try to move away only to be dragged back by the likes of Saidi, or Dutch.

Sad Professor

The Nal wrote: »

Out of the 40 or 50 hours it takes to complete the game, 30 odd hours of it is just this

You could say the same of GTA or any open world game. If you didn't find the world interesting enough to explore or do the abundance of side activities/missions/encounters that's fair enough, but the travelling really isn't the problem. In fact, an awful lot of the story missions fast travel your outbound or return journeys.

As I noted earlier in the thread though, there's a couple of side missions in chapter 6 that unceremoniously dump you on the far side of the map which are very annoying, but they were the exception rather than the rule. Most story missions are fairly close to camp and often leave you close to other story mission.

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Speaking of playing as John, when it first cut to them after end-game, and they were heading to Strawberry. It's like they never even heard of it before, and they camped nearby for the first half of the game. Are we supposed to believe that the distances between the towns are further than they actually are?

I wouldn't really describe Horseshoe Overlook as being close to Strawberry. If it is then so is Rhodes in which case they shouldn't have being able to get away with what they did in chapter 3.

The gang had operated in the West Elizabeth area before fleeing north but mainly in the south around Blackwater. I guess

John and (more so) Abigail had just never been to Strawberry during that time, which is only period of a few months at most.

20silkcut

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Just started the Epilogue last night. The ending,

I suppose because Arthur was sick for the last chapter or 2, his death didn't really shock me. But my god, I did not expect Ahaon to bite the bullet. I've had him since the very beginning, and the 30 seconds Arthur spent with him at the end very nearly brought out the tears. Interesting to see the epilogue being played as John. I'd imagine it will set up RDR1, which I still hope they will release for this. Like, why do the physical copies of the game have a map for both America and Mexico?

Speaking of playing as John, when it first cut to them after end-game, and they were heading to Strawberry. It's like they never even heard of it before, and they camped nearby for the first half of the game. Are we supposed to believe that the distances between the towns are further than they actually are?

Anyway, will finish this up over the next couple of nights, happy to be finishing it to be honest. It's a great game, but Chapter V and VI really took the swing out of it and was a slog to finish. I'm happy to be finished it, and have no intention of playing it again. I will pick it up again in 6-12 months, hopefully they'll have more SP content and some game balances, and preferably an anywhere/anytime fast travel option, or at the least more stagecoach stops!

I think it’s obvious that the distances are representative and are actually much further than what they are. Same as GTA really.
You can go from the snow of the grizzly mountains to 25 degrees in the swamps of lemoyne in the space of a few minutes.
Likewise Beecher hope ranch straddles semi arid grassland and savannah type grassland with Armadillo just minutes down the road in a desert.
If you were to represent those climatic changes in real distances your talking hundreds of miles.
From Colorado to Louisiana.
From New Mexico to Virginia that’s what I’d be guessing the RDR2 map represents. If you made those journeys in the 19th century they’d be once in a lifetime trips for ordinary folk. Outlaws of course are roamers.
It’s funny that they do reference real world places like New York and San Francisco while St Denis is clearly a mock up of New Orleans .

20silkcut

Standman wrote: »

Having finished the main story, I have to say I didn't enjoy it as much as I expected. I really wanted to like it, but the missions got a bit tedious and repetitive ("we gotta get outta here" > everyone shoots > repeat).

On paper it's a great game. The world is amazing, but it just wasn't as enjoyable or memorable as some of the GTA games for some reason.

I reckon there are two schools of rockstar games fans. GTA/Max Payne fast paced action packed and RDR/LA Noire atmospheric historic story based.

The Nal

Sad Professor wrote: »

As I noted earlier in the thread though, there's a couple of side missions in chapter 6 that unceremoniously dump you on the far side of the map which are very annoying, but they were the exception rather than the rule. Most story missions are fairly close to camp and often leave you close to other story mission.

They're the ones I'm referring to yeah.

Then you have to go back to camp or St Denis, and then all the way back to the same place you've just come from. Such a momentum killer.

Its astonishing to me that they didn't give an option to travel to waypoint like in RDR1.

matrim

Potential-Monke wrote: »

Just started the Epilogue last night. The ending,

I suppose because Arthur was sick for the last chapter or 2, his death didn't really shock me. But my god, I did not expect Ahaon to bite the bullet. I've had him since the very beginning, and the 30 seconds Arthur spent with him at the end very nearly brought out the tears.

Same here, I was more upsed by Hoofy dying then than any other character in the game. With Arthur all I wanted was to try get Micah before he died.

Starting the epilogue I was also angry at John because he doesn't have Arthur's hat on. I was then suprisingly happy when it got to the end of epilogue 1 and he still had it.

Standman

20silkcut wrote: »

I reckon there are two schools of rockstar games fans. GTA/Max Payne fast paced action packed and RDR/LA Noire atmospheric historic story based.

Ah there's plenty of action in the main story, which is what I was least impressed with. The most enjoyable part of the game for me was just rambling around exploring, treasure hunting and hunting in general.

I actually really enjoyed John Marston's journey in the epilogue compared to Arthur's. Starting from a farm hand to building your own house – that was great, I felt more invested in the story. And a few shooty missions in between for a nice balance. The writing felt more measured and deep in the epilogue.

The Nal

I'm enjoying free roaming with the cheats on.

Explosive crossbows and the ability to instantly clear a wanted level is great fun in Saint Denis.

20silkcut

Standman wrote: »

Ah there's plenty of action in the main story, which is what I was least impressed with. The most enjoyable part of the game for me was just rambling around exploring, treasure hunting and hunting in general.

I actually really enjoyed John Marston's journey in the epilogue compared to Arthur's. Starting from a farm hand to building your own house – that was great, I felt more invested in the story. And a few shooty missions in between for a nice balance. The writing felt more measured and deep in the epilogue.

would have to disagree with that. I thought Arthur Morgan was quite a deep character and the story demonstrated how life changing events like terminal Iillness can change ones outlook on life. It was quite unique that the main protagonist went down to a humbling natural cause rather than a blaze of glory shootout. In terms of young people under 20 years old playing the game it really demonstrates the reality of death in a way that was never portrayed in any protagonist in film, gaming or tv when I was young.
It was dragged out a bit especially with that damned guarma chapter but then if it was too short people would complain as well probably more so. Btw I think another prequel with the Van der Linde gang as protagonists is pretty unlikely. Dutch and Micah are destroyed as characters after rdr2. Both were incredibly well depicted I might add though. How could you undertake new missions with them? In the final couple of missions as Arthur Morgan I just kept aiming my gun at both of them trying to shoot them and riding my horse into them two right fupping tunts

DEFTLEFTHAND

Standman wrote: »

Ah there's plenty of action in the main story, which is what I was least impressed with. The most enjoyable part of the game for me was just rambling around exploring, treasure hunting and hunting in general.

I actually really enjoyed John Marston's journey in the epilogue compared to Arthur's. Starting from a farm hand to building your own house – that was great, I felt more invested in the story. And a few shooty missions in between for a nice balance. The writing felt more measured and deep in the epilogue.

Me too, The story was good but none of the missions really blew me away.

I just loved having the ability to ramble around being a killer and thief, huntsman, fisherman. The map is just perfect for me, so much to do and see outside the story missions.