Bellator/WSOF/One FC etc events Thread

The White Feather

Can't believe that standup there. Outrageous

dashoonage

great main event there for CW.

KJ

The White Feather wrote: »

Who are the commentators on Cage Warriors? They are Irish and I am sorry to say it but are very bad

One was Nicholas Dalby who is not Irish but is a terrible commentator as was the other guy. Bring back John Gooden.

riffmongous

See Marloes Coenen has retired following her loss tonight. One of the pioneers of pre-Rousey womens MMA for me link

DeadParrot

Gamebred wrote: »

Fergus Ryan is one of them, pair them smoking something thinking them rounds were close black guy clearly won the first 2.

It was odd, a lot of people in the crowd thought it was pretty close.
I saw it 2-1 to the french dude
One of the judges scored it 3-0 the other way

califano

Thought Catherine Costigan was lucky to be on the right side of a close decision. No real robbery but I had the English girl winning it. Albeit a little one dimensional she was more aggressive, landed the hardest punches in stand up and got more take downs with one of them ruined when Mohevadi stood it up terribly. It wasn't until the 3rd rd that Costigan put anything behind her punches and when she did she looked good. Up until then it was just pitter patter taps of punches. She looks like she has definitely more to come but she would probably have to travel to Dublin if she wants to step up her game significantly. The commentators eluded to Costigans underlying back and neck problems so maybe she was fighting injured or at least nowhere near her best and if so more power to her.

After Pimblett was somehow awarded a victory against erosa I seen it as CW protecting their golden hen and lost faith a little in the franchise particularly as the judges seem to be in the employ of cage warriors/affiliates.

Mellor

califano wrote: »

...particularly as the judges seem to be in the employ of cage warriors/affiliates.

Two of the 3 judges are used by the UFC , and others.

califano

Mellor wrote: »

Two of the 3 judges are used by the UFC , and others.

So would these judges be athletic commission judges out of the favour of UFC interference like in the US?. If so then ok but UFC controls cage warriors.

dashoonage

califano wrote: »

So would these judges be athletic commission judges out of the favour of UFC interference like in the US?. If so then ok but UFC controls cage warriors.

chem trails man them ****ing chem trails...911 was an inside job man...an inside job...

Subcomandante Marcos

califano wrote: »

So would these judges be athletic commission judges out of the favour of UFC interference like in the US?. If so then ok but UFC controls cage warriors.

MMA isn't regulated by the UK or Ireland and as such the judges and referees are employed directly by the promotion for the night.

I'm very suspect of it all after watching Julian Erosa murder Pimblett and get a loss from the judges in a CW event recently.

seiphil

Cage Warriors need a bigger production set when it comes to venue's like the three arena.

Everything just seemed so small. Also the TV's were tiny and were no use trying to look at replays.

Mellor

califano wrote: »

So would these judges be athletic commission judges out of the favour of UFC interference like in the US?.

I've read this 3 times and don't understand what you are asking "out of the favour of UFC interference"?

There's no athletic commission in the UK. Judges are essentially sole traders employed by promotions for individual events. This is the case whether is a regional CW event, or right up to the UFC etc. The same group of judges tend to be used all over the world. For example, Mark Collett, the judge in the Costigan fight has been used in Ireland, the UK, all over Europe, Brazil, Asia, and Australia. ie everywhere without a commission.

They aren't just randoms employed by CW.

califano

Sorry badly worded. out of favour was meant to be a way of saying 'not being directly employed like in the ufc therefore less likely to be under instruction'. Subcomandante Marcos answered that one anyway. I trust to a good degree in the referees integrity(more than the scoring judges), many of them are ex fighters and have a love for the game. But if your being directly employed then you are more under the influence of the franchise.
An example of this would be lets say Khabib was fighting McGregor in CW. Then i can see there being a pre fight card directive chat with all referees saying look we dont want something on the ground going nowhere ok, were all about entertaining fights, the crowd dont like seeing clinches on the ground so stand it up quickly if its on the ground. The real meaning is that they know their golden boys best chance is when its standing up and likely road to defeat in the JJ on the ground.
I would be fairly confident referees at different shows would be informed of the way to ref in certain aspects of the fight.
The UFC couldnt have this type of instruction influence with athletic state commission judges.

Subcomandante Marcos

califano wrote: »

Sorry badly worded. out of favour was meant to be a way of saying 'not being directly employed like in the ufc therefore less likely to be under instruction'. Subcomandante Marcos answered that one anyway. I trust to a good degree in the referees integrity(more than the scoring judges), many of them are ex fighters and have a love for the game. But if your being directly employed then you are more under the influence of the franchise.
An example of this would be lets say Khabib was fighting McGregor in CW. Then i can see there being a pre fight card directive chat with all referees saying look we dont want something on the ground going nowhere ok, were all about entertaining fights, the crowd dont like seeing clinches on the ground so stand it up quickly if its on the ground. The real meaning is that they know their golden boys best chance is when its standing up and likely road to defeat in the JJ on the ground.
I would be fairly confident referees at different shows would be informed of the way to ref in certain aspects of the fight.
The UFC couldnt have this type of instruction influence with athletic state commission judges.

If you want proof of how crooked CW is as a promotion watch the Pimblett vs Erosa fight.

Erosa murdered him and still lost.

Pimblett is the champion,managed by the owner of the promotion who also happen to pick the judges and select judging criteria

Joke shop.

califano

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

If you want proof of how crooked CW is as a promotion watch the Pimblett vs Erosa fight.

Erosa murdered him and still lost.

Pimblett is the champion,managed by the owner of the promotion who also happen to pick the judges and select judging criteria

Joke shop.

When you put it like that!

califano

ACB 54: Khalidov vs. Barnatt *Live Streaming 8pm*

Fight Card:

Mamed Khalidovvs. Luke Barnett

Mike Wilkinson vs. Brendan Loughnane

Asambek Saidov vs. Ion Pascu

Saul Rogers vs Aurel Pirtea

Ali Bagov vs. Bubba Jenkins

Amirkhan Adaev vs. Joshua Aveles

Batraz Agnaev vs Max Nunes

Rakhman Dzhanaev vs. Adam Zajac

Danny Mitchell vs. Andrew DeVent[/QUOTE]

fermanagh_man

califano wrote: »

ACB 54: Khalidov vs. Barnatt *Live Streaming 8pm*

Fight Card:

Mamed Khalidovvs. Luke Barnett

Mike Wilkinson vs. Brendan Loughnane

Asambek Saidov vs. Ion Pascu

Saul Rogers vs Aurel Pirtea

Ali Bagov vs. Bubba Jenkins

Amirkhan Adaev vs. Joshua Aveles

Batraz Agnaev vs Max Nunes

Rakhman Dzhanaev vs. Adam Zajac

Danny Mitchell vs. Andrew DeVent

[/quote]


Very enjoyable card so far

Dean Garnett and Robert Whiteford with big performances

SBG fighter Pascu on card aswell

califano

Venue seems pretty empty

califano

https://twitter.com/acb_league/status/840670399339868162

seiphil

ACB has some amount of talent signed up now.

Those Eastern Europeans are a tough bunch!

califano

https://twitter.com/acb_league/status/840702290721927173

Mellor

califano wrote: »

The real meaning is that they know their golden boys best chance is when its standing up and likely road to defeat in the JJ on the ground.
I would be fairly confident referees at different shows would be informed of the way to ref in certain aspects of the fight.
The UFC couldnt have this type of instruction influence with athletic state commission judges.

I wasn't suggesting that the judges/refs are incorruptible and judges each fight on its merits.
I was pointing out that the way CW employs its judges its no different to how the UFC employs its judges with event in those same countries.

Obviously there's vastly different chances of each promoter actually trying to put the squeeze on judges/refs

dashoonage

http://severemma.com/2017/03/norman-parke-decide-ksw-39-colosseum-week-says-lewandowski/

Parke to KSW.......maybe...

dulux99

Dillon Danis has signed with Bellator and theres a predictably cringe worthy interview with him up on Severemma now. I've been quite vocal about how embarrassing I find James Gallagher and I suppose deep-down I could probably acknowledge that he's a young guy who will naturally idolise his superstar team mate.... There is no such excuse for the absolute cringe machine that is Dillon Danis. The shameless verbatim stealing of McGregors lines is actually tough to watch.

The sad part is Bellator will, like they have with JG, line up absolute bums for Danis to beat and we'll have to suffer him for the next couple of years at least.

Subcomandante Marcos

dulux99 wrote: »

Dillon Danis has signed with Bellator and theres a predictably cringe worthy interview with him up on Severemma now. I've been quite vocal about how embarrassing I find James Gallagher and I suppose deep-down I could probably acknowledge that he's a young guy who will naturally idolise his superstar team mate.... There is no such excuse for the absolute cringe machine that is Dillon Danis. The shameless verbatim stealing of McGregors lines is actually tough to watch.

The sad part is Bellator will, like they have with JG, line up absolute bums for Danis to beat and we'll have to suffer him for the next couple of years at least.

They'll put him in with Ralek Gracie and Ralek will probably knock the snot out of him on the feet.

dashoonage

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

They'll put him in with Ralek Gracie and Ralek will probably knock the snot out of him on the feet.

i'd watch that.

0byme75341jo28

dulux99 wrote: »

Dillon Danis has signed with Bellator and theres a predictably cringe worthy interview with him up on Severemma now. I've been quite vocal about how embarrassing I find James Gallagher and I suppose deep-down I could probably acknowledge that he's a young guy who will naturally idolise his superstar team mate.... There is no such excuse for the absolute cringe machine that is Dillon Danis. The shameless verbatim stealing of McGregors lines is actually tough to watch.

The sad part is Bellator will, like they have with JG, line up absolute bums for Danis to beat and we'll have to suffer him for the next couple of years at least.

Link to interview?

dashoonage

https://twitter.com/MikeBohnMMA/status/843932290547945473

i dont even what....

ricero

Fedor v mittrone rebooked as the co main

Wrongway1985

Bader v Davis II supposedly in the works for that same event too.

Django99

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

Bader v Davis II supposedly in the works for that same event too.

That would be a big addition. Ariel tweeted that he thinks Gallagher should be on the card too. I could see them completely stacking the event. We could see Danis on it I reckon.

If they play their cards right they could end up selling a lot of PPVs. It looks like they've decided now is the time to challenge the UFC, and even though these are mostly freak match ups, they're doing a good job so far.

ASOT

Lima v Larkin & Chandler v Primus added to 180 also. Some card.

Wrongway1985

ASOT wrote: »

Lima v Larkin & Chandler v Primus added to 180 also. Some card.

Larkin rarely in a bad fight, beat Masvidal not so long ago who they are now appear to be pushing, madness to be letting these types go , UFC's forward intent is underwhelming.

Will be tuning into this for sure. Notice UFC FN is the Sunday after this event they aren't going head to head.

Michael Mcdonald who headlined in his last bout the recent mover.

ricero

Anyone know what tv station are showing cage kings 82 next weekend ? I really want to watch the paddy pimblett fight

Gamebred

ricero wrote: »

Anyone know what tv station are showing cage kings 82 next weekend ? I really want to watch the paddy pimblett fight

Cage warriors, and bt or fightpass.

The White Feather

Scott Coker just announced this fight for James Gallagher on the MMA Hour at Bellator180!!!!

https://twitter.com/BellatorMMA/status/846461801462063105

ricero

Great card well done bellator

Subcomandante Marcos

He's going to get the face kicked off him.

Gamebred

Pull out Machida 2 weeks out and find a security guard at macys to step in.

Wrongway1985

He's up against a 5-2 40 year old who's fought similar level fighters it not like he's fighting his brother is it?

Subcomandante Marcos

Wrongway1985 wrote: »

He's up against a 5-2 40 year old who's fought similar level fighters it not like he's fighting his brother is it?

He's up against a world class striker who will kick the face off of him. It's a massive step up in competition.

The White Feather

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

He's up against a world class striker who will kick the face off of him. It's a massive step up in competition.

But that's what we want to see isn't it? See what he can do against a tougher test

Subcomandante Marcos

The White Feather wrote: »

But that's what we want to see isn't it? See what he can do against a tougher test

I want to see him get sparked so he can sit the feck down and calm his diddies with the mini-Conor sthick.

The White Feather

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

I want to see him get sparked so he can sit the feck down and calm his diddies with the mini-Conor sthick.

:pac::D:D

I can understand that but he is a young,Irish prospect! I could never cheer against him!

Gamebred

The guy is a moron, sad thing is a loss wont humble him he will get worse and come back with this bollox win or learn stick.

Subcomandante Marcos

Jaysus lads, listening to Dannis' MMA Hour interview, what a tool.

The White Feather

Gamebred and Marcos......You guys sound like the ultimate cynics!!

Wait until he wins a belt then turn on him at least! :D

Gamebred

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Jaysus lads, listening to Dannis' MMA Hour interview, what a tool.

listening now looking forward to getting to that part of the show, presume he went full troll? cant wait to see shields stockton slap him at the SUG match he will **** himself.

The White Feather

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Jaysus lads, listening to Dannis' MMA Hour interview, what a tool.

Yeah he said he was the highest paid in Bellator! Coker seemed to almost burst out laughing when Ariel put it to him later!

Coker said they are trying to match him for Bellator180 I think.

Subcomandante Marcos

Lads with a record of 0-0 or 3-0 against a load of bums talking like they're big names just come across as morons.

Dannis acting like he doesn't know who Neiman Gracie is despite them both being based in NY and in the top two academies in the US, him being a nephew of Renzo, having already fought in WSOF and Bellator.

Dannis has been running away from Renzo's crew for years, no wonder he turned down a fight with one of them.