Bellator/WSOF/One FC etc events Thread

PatrickDoherty · 30-05-2021 3:15pm

Kavanagh must'nt be the flavor of the month with the suits there anymore if a heap of his lads got cut.

Mellor · 30-05-2021 3:39pm

PatrickDoherty wrote: »

Kavanagh must'nt be the flavor of the month with the suits there anymore if a heap of his lads got cut.

Or maybe it was nonsense talk all along.

PatrickDoherty · 30-05-2021 3:54pm

Mellor wrote: »

Or maybe it was nonsense talk all along.

His relationship with the match makers is well known in mma circles, hes poached one already from Bellator for wimp to warrior, must be coincidental nonsense though lol

Mellor · 31-05-2021 1:52am

PatrickDoherty wrote: »

His relationship with the match makers is well known in mma circles, hes poached one already from Bellator for wimp to warrior, must be coincidental nonsense though lol

He has connections in multiple promotions, so do most big teams, it one of the perks of a big team. A couple of SBG guys have been used as cans to fill out an undercard. Very different to the guys given contracts.
When a match maker needs a guy on short notice, he goes to an existing contact rather than a unknown small team. That's really just sensible for the match maker.

But the idea that Frans Mlambo was signed as a favour to John is just a bit silly.

Edit:
And not sure if Richy Chou joining W2W counts as being poached. It's a completely different company.

but1er · 31-05-2021 9:33am

With All JK guys cut from bellator and hes not talking to GB so no cage warrirors. SBG fighters must be thinking were do we go from here. Be interesting to see

Mellor · 31-05-2021 3:45pm

but1er wrote: »

With All JK guys cut from bellator and hes not talking to GB so no cage warrirors. SBG fighters must be thinking were do we go from here. Be interesting to see

Well Frans just fought and won a title.
Richie has a fight booked in a few weeks.

Who else from SBG was cut?
Presume not Queally, Crosby or Gallagher

LollipopJimmy · 31-05-2021 4:11pm

Mellor wrote: »

Well Frans just fought and won a title.
Richie has a fight booked in a few weeks.

Who else from SBG was cut?
Presume not Queally, Crosby or Gallagher

Mandy Bohm who subsequently signed to the UFC and Will Fleury, however Will put up a miserable looking dinner on social mediaast night which usually means he's in camp so I expect an announcement soon. Off the top of my head that was it but I could be wrong

LollipopJimmy · 31-05-2021 5:26pm

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

Mandy Bohm who subsequently signed to the UFC and Will Fleury, however Will put up a miserable looking dinner on social mediaast night which usually means he's in camp so I expect an announcement soon. Off the top of my head that was it but I could be wrong

Turns out I was wrong, Ion Pascu and Richard Kiely also got cut

Whelo79 · 31-05-2021 7:55pm

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

Turns out I was wrong, Ion Pascu and Richard Kiely also got cut

Blaine O'Driscoll too I'd imagine? Dylan Logan??

LollipopJimmy · 31-05-2021 8:13pm

Whelo79 wrote: »

Blaine O'Driscoll too I'd imagine? Dylan Logan??

Blaine was gone already before the mass cull. It was just most of the European fighters, list as long as my arm

Mellor · 01-06-2021 8:19am

LollipopJimmy wrote: »

Blaine was gone already before the mass cull. It was just most of the European fighters, list as long as my arm

Yeah, Blane had recently fought in Brave.

Looks like the entirety of Europe was just sliced out of the roster due to Covid restrictions

fitzparker · 01-06-2021 9:55am

Ricky Bandejas cut aswell, suprised they didnt keep him for the usual canned "hyped up Gallagher fight in a PPV bad blood revenge fight that is 3 years in the making" ( in my best Goldie accent)

Mehaffey1 · 06-06-2021 11:25pm

Combat Jiu Jitsu Worlds Welterweights live on Fight Pass now.

Mellor · 07-06-2021 7:05am

Mehaffey1 wrote: »

Combat Jiu Jitsu Worlds Welterweights live on Fight Pass now.

How was it.

Roberto Jimenez would have been my pick.

Brussels Sprout · 11-06-2021 10:28am

Claressa Shields made her MMA debut last night at PFL.

They managed to find an opponent for her who:

had a 3-6 record
had not fought in 2 and a half years
had not won in 5 years
suffered a catastrophic arm break in her last fight and never got surgery to fix it

and Shields still nearly lost. She ended up on her back for the first 2 rounds but managed to get on top and ground & pound her way to a TKO victory in the 3rd.

By all accounts she needs serious amount of work on her ground game. Before the fight she was talking about continuing to defend her boxing belts. I wonder will she realise that there may not be enough time to do both.

Chairman Meow · 11-06-2021 3:15pm

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

Claressa Shields made her MMA debut last night at PFL.

They managed to find an opponent for her who:
had a 3-6 record

had not fought in 2 and a half years

had not won in 5 years

suffered a catastrophic arm break in her last fight and never got surgery to fix it

and Shields still nearly lost. She ended up on her back for the first 2 rounds but managed to get on top and ground & pound her way to a TKO victory in the 3rd.

By all accounts she needs serious amount of work on her ground game. Before the fight she was talking about continuing to defend her boxing belts. I wonder will she realise that there may not be enough time to do both.

Just watched it. Ive no idea how Elkin managed to lose that fight. She had top control for almost all of round 1 in full mount, and wasted the entire time just hunting for an americana. Same with round 2, full mount and spent the entire round just kinda laying on top of her instead of trying to ground n pound. Missed a perfect armbar opportunity, it was insane. Shields was gifted that win. Any UFC fighter would smoke her

Mellor · 15-06-2021 2:10am

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

By all accounts she needs serious amount of work on her ground game.

Scott Coker offer this steallar insight.

"I just will say this: I think that the road gets much tougher moving forward and somebody that really has a good wrestling background and good submission game is going to be very dangerous against a pure striker."

That's why Scott gets the big bucks guys. :pac:

Chairman Meow wrote: »

Just watched it. Ive no idea how Elkin managed to lose that fight. She had top control for almost all of round 1 in full mount, and wasted the entire time just hunting for an americana. Same with round 2, full mount and spent the entire round just kinda laying on top of her instead of trying to ground n pound. Missed a perfect armbar opportunity, it was insane. Shields was gifted that win. Any UFC fighter would smoke her

Her team/gym claims to be sambo fighters. Which would not align with that performance

Chairman Meow · 17-06-2021 3:48pm

Mellor wrote: »

Scott Coker offer this steallar insight.

"I just will say this: I think that the road gets much tougher moving forward and somebody that really has a good wrestling background and good submission game is going to be very dangerous against a pure striker."

That's why Scott gets the big bucks guys. :pac:

Her team/gym claims to be sambo fighters. Which would not align with that performance

Apparently shes a BJJ brown belt which i was stunned to hear. I know BJJ isnt as straightforward when you have the threat of being punched/kicked, but god damn she looked like someone with a months training

FileNotFound · 17-06-2021 3:52pm

Chairman Meow wrote: »

Just watched it. Ive no idea how Elkin managed to lose that fight. She had top control for almost all of round 1 in full mount, and wasted the entire time just hunting for an americana. Same with round 2, full mount and spent the entire round just kinda laying on top of her instead of trying to ground n pound. Missed a perfect armbar opportunity, it was insane. Shields was gifted that win. Any UFC fighter would smoke her

Just watched it there and have to agree.

I assume shields is pretty strong physically from a lifetime of elite boxing but she should have been finished.

If she committed to MMA and spent a year in a really good ground game gym she could potentially do well, I just feel that as is she is going nowhere fast, and the talk of dual sporting will do her more harm than good in the long run.

Podge2k7 · 18-06-2021 8:29am

Rory MacDonald robbed by the judges in a split decision loss to Gleison Tibau last night.

The incompetency of MMA judges at times is truly shocking

themandan6611 · 18-06-2021 9:22pm

Podge2k7 wrote: »

Rory MacDonald robbed by the judges in a split decision loss to Gleison Tibau last night.

The incompetency of MMA judges at times is truly shocking

That was more than incompetency, few dollars were made somewhere on that

but1er · 23-06-2021 10:38pm

https://twitter.com/Barrelelapierna/status/1407765066297008140?s=19

Win for Smullen not going to get him back to the big leagues.

weemcd · 24-06-2021 7:28pm

Anyone know what the story is with Ian Garry?

https://twitter.com/iangarryMMA/status/1408128721094053902?s=19

Looks like he has split from his team?

but1er · 24-06-2021 8:20pm

weemcd wrote: »

Anyone know what the story is with Ian Garry?

https://twitter.com/iangarryMMA/status/1408128721094053902?s=19

Looks like he has split from his team?

I'm going with ufc offer if he wins saturday, team Kf said to soon and he disagreed

weemcd · 24-06-2021 9:02pm

but1er wrote: »

I'm going with ufc offer if he wins saturday, team Kf said to soon and he disagreed

Not a bad shout actually.

LollipopJimmy · 24-06-2021 9:19pm

I woukdnt say so, his team had said only a few weeks ago he was ready for the UFC.

yourdeadwright · 25-06-2021 11:06am

but1er wrote: »

I'm going with ufc offer if he wins saturday, team Kf said to soon and he disagreed

No chance the split happened 10 days out from a title fight must be more to it,

I could be wrong but is he living in England with the missus ? Would make it hard to train with Team KF given current covid situation

I'm sure after Saturday the whole story will be told,

Mellor · 25-06-2021 11:44am

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I could be wrong but is he living in England with the missus ? Would make it hard to train with Team KF given current covid situation

As an example, gunni lived and trained in Iceland while being cornered by SBG

yourdeadwright · 25-06-2021 12:04pm

Mellor wrote: »

As an example, gunni lived and trained in Iceland while being cornered by SBG

Ye but that was precovid , Things are bit more complicated now ,

Knowing Chris Fields he will rightly not say a word until the fight is done the weekend and then i'm sure you'll hear his side of the story

ASOT · 25-06-2021 2:55pm

Muai Thai card on in Dubai with Craig Coakley on it.

https://youtu.be/DIFPZFNxcLo

Might interest a few here as I know some would know him from DCA.

First fight was a cracker, Craig is on in about 6/7 fights time.

Chairman Meow · 25-06-2021 3:28pm

ASOT wrote: »

Muai Thai card on in Dubai with Craig Coakley on it.

https://youtu.be/DIFPZFNxcLo

Might interest a few here as I know some would know him from DCA.

First fight was a cracker, Craig is on in about 6/7 fights time.

I love Muay Thai, but i cant watch events like this simply because of the bloody traditional music. I tried watching some stuff on fight pass a while ago and lasted about 10 minutes before i had to turn it off.

Mellor · 25-06-2021 3:32pm

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Ye but that was precovid , Things are bit more complicated now ,

Knowing Chris Fields he will rightly not say a word until the fight is done the weekend and then i'm sure you'll hear his side of the story

Absolutely, I don’t think he would try hit the media and take away from the fight.
But I’d also be surprised if Garry finishing camp in England was the trigger to drop corner duties 10 days out. Feels like a big deal to me

yourdeadwright · 25-06-2021 3:36pm

Mellor wrote: »

Absolutely, I don’t think he would try hit the media and take away from the fight.
But I’d also be surprised if Garry finishing camp in England was the trigger to drop corner duties 10 days out. Feels like a big deal to me

Knowing the people involved it seems like something major must have happened for Garry to say the lads at KF dropped him 10 days out ,

ASOT · 25-06-2021 3:43pm

Chairman Meow wrote: »

I love Muay Thai, but i cant watch events like this simply because of the bloody traditional music. I tried watching some stuff on fight pass a while ago and lasted about 10 minutes before i had to turn it off.

I lived over there for a while and have been to I don't know how many live fights that I think my mind blanks it out automatically.

Someone just got disqualified there for biting someone, been a great card so far.

LollipopJimmy · 25-06-2021 3:47pm

Chairman Meow wrote: »

I love Muay Thai, but i cant watch events like this simply because of the bloody traditional music. I tried watching some stuff on fight pass a while ago and lasted about 10 minutes before i had to turn it off.

Ah I love the music

FileNotFound · 25-06-2021 4:16pm

Any good fights in the Bellator event tonight.

Follow the UFC but never really bothered with any other promotions (sat night suits me)

Worth staying up to watch tonight?

ASOT · 25-06-2021 5:55pm

Craig wins by split decision in a good fight.

Mehaffey1 · 25-06-2021 7:42pm

FileNotFound wrote: »

Any good fights in the Bellator event tonight.

Follow the UFC but never really bothered with any other promotions (sat night suits me)

Worth staying up to watch tonight?

None on the line up stand out to me.

Homelander · 25-06-2021 8:04pm

Main event and Carmouche v Watanabe maybe, rest don't hugely grab me. From watching Watanabe's last fight she's just waiting to take a total pummelling from a strong striker.

Whelo79 · 27-06-2021 12:45pm

That was a good win by Ian Garry yesterday. Really solid display and showed excellent ground work against a very good grappler.

Five solid rounds to add to his experience, and with evertyhing that happened this week he dealt with the fight excellently. Supposedly the fight was almost being cancelled on Friday because he was planning on going in without anyone in his corner. Graham Boylan told him no way could he do that, so Ian got Paul Hughes to corner him.

It looks like a move to the UFC is probably inevitable at this stage. I wonder will he maybe make one title defence before making the junp up?

Hopefully he gets the team sitautaion sorted out. If he's living in Dublin wjere does he go to train? Team Ryano or SBG HQ are probably the only realistic options. SBG D24 with Paddy Hoolihan or SBG Tallaght/Naas are other slim pissobilities.

He might be better served with a move to one of the bigger UK gyms or even moving over to America.

rob316 · 28-06-2021 12:19am

Whelo79 wrote: »

That was a good win by Ian Garry yesterday. Really solid display and showed excellent ground work against a very good grappler.

Five solid rounds to add to his experience, and with evertyhing that happened this week he dealt with the fight excellently. Supposedly the fight was almost being cancelled on Friday because he was planning on going in without anyone in his corner. Graham Boylan told him no way could he do that, so Ian got Paul Hughes to corner him.

It looks like a move to the UFC is probably inevitable at this stage. I wonder will he maybe make one title defence before making the junp up?

Hopefully he gets the team sitautaion sorted out. If he's living in Dublin wjere does he go to train? Team Ryano or SBG HQ are probably the only realistic options. SBG D24 with Paddy Hoolihan or SBG Tallaght/Naas are other slim pissobilities.

He might be better served with a move to one of the bigger UK gyms or even moving over to America.

Not sure he'd be welcome at sbg HQ, he's talked **** about the fighters taking the easy money going to bellator. Ryano I could probably see alrite, maybe he stays in the UK.
You'd love to see him head to the states and see can he sharpen his obvious talent.

Homelander · 28-06-2021 11:31am

Homelander wrote: »

Main event and Carmouche v Watanabe maybe, rest don't hugely grab me. From watching Watanabe's last fight she's just waiting to take a total pummelling from a strong striker.

Didn't watch it in the end but see Watanabe was knocked out 30 seconds into the first round by Liz Carmouche

but1er · 28-06-2021 11:34am

rob316 wrote: »

Not sure he'd be welcome at sbg HQ, he's talked **** about the fighters taking the easy money going to bellator. Ryano I could probably see alrite, maybe he stays in the UK.
You'd love to see him head to the states and see can he sharpen his obvious talent.

He can't go Sbg because no Sbg fighters fight in cage warriors

yourdeadwright · 28-06-2021 11:47am

Anyone see the post from Team KF on the situation ,

Rumour is the "new Manger " employed in March is his missus can anyone verify that ? That been doing the rounds for a while & the way team KF wrote there statement i think she is his manger,

Sad to say but its quite obvious he'll be going wherever his missus tells him ,