We're being slaughtered again...

MayoAreMagic

ronoc wrote: »

Many are in a poor state of repair for starters.

Wouldn't a system of taxation for those on bikes, with the monies raised used to improve the cycle lanes, be a good idea?

ThisRegard

RobertFoster wrote: »

We can all chip in and get you the Bee Gees greatest hits if you like.

I've already got them on a Spotify playlist.

If you get the right topic and right callers, it can be a good laugh in a my jaysus people are nuts kinda way.

spyderski

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

Wouldn't a system of taxation for those on bikes, with the monies raised used to improve the cycle lanes, be a good idea?

What a great idea! And a pedestrian tax for the upkeep of footpaths! And a swimming tax for those that use the beaches. And definitely a bus tax, for those who use buses.

You, my friend, are a fiscal genius. Give that man the top job in the Dept of Finance!

.............Wait, MAYO!!!! Is that you Enda???

laraghrider

QuinDixie wrote: »

If they were banned from those roads, who would it affect only racer cyclists groups who do it for pleasure.
You rarely see any other cyclist on those roads.

I live in the country and I commute to work on my bike. On an average morning before I get near the city I'd see on average maybe 10 cyclists. Now soon as I get near the city it's a different ball game. I'd see 10 at one junction. So should I not be allowed to cycle to work?

Triangla

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

Wouldn't a system of taxation for those on bikes, with the monies raised used to improve the cycle lanes, be a good idea?

You mean like VAT?

RobFowl

MayoAreMagic wrote: »

Wouldn't a system of taxation for those on bikes, with the monies raised used to improve the cycle lanes, be a good idea?

Something like VAT possibly ??

Surprised the government haven't done that already

doozerie

We might as well trot out in one go the usual arguments that routinely come up when people take it upon themselves to “look out for” the welfare of us cyclists:
* “No, you’re not drivers, none of you, you’re at best cyclists who happen to be allowed to drive a car occasionally, an entirely different beast altogether. You have no say whatsoever, WE’RE driving this debate, right!”
* “YOU DON’T EVEN PAY *** ***!!!” (..I can’t bring myself to write those two words, the ignorance of it is horribly contagious).
* “We are looking out for YOU! Sure, ye are dying out there by the hundreds every day, thousands even! As well as being in our way, obviously, but there is no ulterior motive here…”
* “Why are ye MAKING us kill ye? We feel terrible but ye have only yerselves to blame sure, so that’s a consolation. The roads are for tanks and armoured vehicles only, it’s a war zone out there, as everyone knows.”
* “What’s with the lycra? Stop making me STARE AT IT!”
* “Oh, and I’m a cyclist myself you know. In spirit only, obviously, sure I wouldn’t want to take a bike out on the roads with the likes of me driving on it.”

Etc.

Once they’ve made things “safe” for us cyclists no doubt they’ll come for the pedestrians and anyone else “other”. Bless their concerned little hearts.

Darkglasses

We all know the problem of cyclists is best solved by using the footpad.

doozerie

Darkglasses wrote: »

We all know the problem of cyclists is best solved by using the footpad.

Yes indeed, a good kettling would do them the world of good. :pac:

Daroxtar

I never listen to Joe or Hook or Cooper or any of that shíte, I don't watch the news and I don't read newspapers. You wouldn't believe how happy I am most of the time. Then I go and click the link to read this thread............

Streetwalker

spyderski wrote: »

Because they're :

1.Covered In glass & debris
2.Potholed & unmaintained
3.Meandering up & down in front of peoples' driveways like a roller coaster
4.Designed so that cyclists have to yield to traffic turning left/emerging onto the road every 50 yards
5.come to abrupt ends, depositing riders into narrow shared lanes

Thats 5 off the top of my head. If you have ever indeed used one you should know what I mean, or else you weren't paying attention.

Lot's of roads are in shocking condition for cars/motorcyclists, should they disregard the rules of the road because the roads are bad? No of course not. As a cyclist myself I think our anger should be directed towards the council who are paid our tax money to lay and maintain the cycle lanes

pelevin

ThisRegard wrote: »

It's a cross I bear of being a lone worker and by afternoon needing the company of some (shrill) human voices.

You have some of my sympathy but only some . . . and maybe not even some. Joe Duffy is a total no-go zone.

lennymc

Can a mod please fix the typo in the thread title. It's driving me mad Joe!

spyderski

lennymc wrote: »

Can a mod please fix the typo in the thread title. It's driving me mad Joe!

2 typos...

Streetwalker

Streetwalker wrote: »

Lot's of roads are in shocking condition for cars/motorcyclists, should they disregard the rules of the road because the roads are bad? No of course not. As a cyclist myself I think our anger should be directed towards the council who are paid our tax money to lay and maintain the cycle lanes

The rules of the road say bike paths are optional.

lennymc

spyderski wrote: »

2 typos...

now that I see it, I can't unsee it!!!!

MayoAreMagic

spyderski wrote: »

What a great idea! And a pedestrian tax for the upkeep of footpaths! And a swimming tax for those that use the beaches. And definitely a bus tax, for those who use buses. <br />
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You, my friend, are a fiscal genius. Give that man the top job in the Dept of Finance! <br />
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.............Wait, MAYO!!!! Is that you Enda???

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No need for the sarcasm. I am simply suggesting that, just like the way motorists pay for the upkeep of the roads through tax, cyclists could do the same with the cycle lanes through a similar system.

We know cyclists don't have a motor and therefore don't pay motor tax - fair enough. But then the other side of that is, how can you expect motorists to pay for cycle lanes in their tax, when they aren't cycling?

And no, I don't mean VAT. I mean a taxation system for the upkeep of cycle lanes. That is just common sense surely?

Hunterbiker

lennymc wrote: »

now that I see it, I can't unsee it!!!!

And look at that space between the last word and the '...'

Chips Lovell

Locking this thread now as it's just turned into a pot pourri of the usual axe grinding topics. If anyone has a problem with that, they can talk to Joe.

lennymc wrote: »

Can a mod please fix the typo in the thread title. It's driving me mad Joe!

Done