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Yes Equality Campaign

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    #32
    amdublin
    Registered Users Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    Cllr. Roderic O'Gorman canvassing at the train station this morning.

    I've seen him on twitter and Facebook - he's out in the evenings and the weekends, and doing litter pickups on the canal, AND now canvassing in the mornings, fair play Roderic.


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    #33
    athtrasna
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    Saw those hateful no posters being put up around the Snugborough Road /N3/Shopping Centre junction on Wednesday night. Came through it last night and they'd disappeared. What a pity ;)


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    #34
    jeffk
    Registered Users Posts: 5,841 ✭✭✭jeffk


    If the yes ones "disappeared"

    Would it be

    "What a pity" ?


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    #35
    athtrasna
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    jeffk wrote: »
    If the yes ones "disappeared"

    Would it be

    "What a pity" ?

    Haven't seen any off topic or misleading yes posters.

    I heard rumours of a yes equality pop up shop in Blanchardstown centre akin to the one in St Stephen 's Green. Anyone know if it's true


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    #36
    jeffk
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    athtrasna wrote: »
    Haven't seen any off topic or misleading yes posters.

    I heard rumours of a yes equality pop up shop in Blanchardstown centre akin to the one in St Stephen 's Green. Anyone know if it's true

    Just curious as seems in general everyone finds it great when the no side posters are ripped down(video evidence on Facebook/net)

    Yet the whole process is meant to be based on equality


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    #37
    amdublin
    Registered Users Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    Personally I think no one should remove those No posters - think they are doing more bad than good for the No side.


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    #38
    amdublin
    Registered Users Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    athtrasna wrote: »
    I heard rumours of a yes equality pop up shop in Blanchardstown centre akin to the one in St Stephen 's Green. Anyone know if it's true

    Oh that'd be great. But no I have not heard a dickie bird about this. Where did you see or hear these rumours?


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    #39
    amdublin
    Registered Users Posts: 20,653 ✭✭✭✭amdublin


    jeffk wrote: »
    Just curious as seems in general everyone finds it great when the no side posters are ripped down(video evidence on Facebook/net)

    Yet the whole process is meant to be based on equality

    I guess people just find them really mean, offensive and upsetting.


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    #40
    jobbridge4life
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    jeffk wrote: »
    Just curious as seems in general everyone finds it great when the no side posters are ripped down(video evidence on Facebook/net)

    Who in general? I haven't seen a single Yes campaigner praise any incidence of posters being removed in fact I have seen repeated and impassioned calls from every high profile yes campaigner to leave all posters alone and to engage with civility those on the no side.
    jeffk wrote: »
    Yet the whole process is meant to be based on equality


    We can all agree taking down no posters is the wrong thing to do and its stupid but lets not jump the shark here it in no way equates to state enforced discrimination which is afterall what the no side argue in favour of maintaining.


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    #41
    Gaspode
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    amdublin wrote: »
    Personally I think no one should remove those No posters - think they are doing more bad than good for the No side.

    Agree 100% - the No posters would not be their campaign manager's finest hour. You can almost smell the stink of red herring from them.

    I would also encourage people not to remove posters - however tempting


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    #42
    Fuseman
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    I'm voting NO !


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    #43
    jobbridge4life
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    Fuseman wrote: »
    I'm voting NO !

    Care to tell us why?


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    #44
    Fuseman
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 158 ✭✭Fuseman


    The existing civil partnership ceremony in Ireland already allows a same-sex couple to stand before family, society, and law, and say ‘I do'. Redefining the family unit as it has been traditionally known for me is not right.


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    #45
    Gaspode
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    Fair play to you for voicing a no vote on a very partisan Yes thread!
    Tell me this though, if civil partnership is fine, why doesn't everyone have a civil partnership then, why bother with marriage at all?


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    #46
    December2012
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    Fuseman wrote: »
    The existing civil partnership ceremony in Ireland already allows a same-sex couple to stand before family, society, and law, and say ‘I do'. Redefining the family unit as it has been traditionally known for me is not right.

    So you'll agree that civil partnership is not the same as marriage?


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    #47
    jobbridge4life
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    Fuseman wrote: »
    The existing civil partnership ceremony in Ireland already allows a same-sex couple to stand before family, society, and law, and say ‘I do'. Redefining the family unit as it has been traditionally known for me is not right.

    Thanks for replying.

    Are you aware of the substantial differences between marriage and civil partnership?


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    #48
    Fuseman
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 158 ✭✭Fuseman


    December2012 wrote:
    So you'll agree that civil partnership is not the same as marriage?

    Of course it's not the same !! And it shouldn't be treated the same. I'm all for equal rights but there has to be special provisions for an institution that have be around from the beginning of time


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    #49
    December2012
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    Fuseman wrote: »
    Of course it's not the same !! And it shouldn't be treated the same. I'm all for equal rights but there has to be special provisions for an institution that have be around from the beginning of time

    Why? Marriage has changed constantly.


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    #50
    eviltwin
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    Fuseman wrote: »
    Of course it's not the same !! And it shouldn't be treated the same. I'm all for equal rights but there has to be special provisions for an institution that have be around from the beginning of time

    Marriage hasn't been around since the beginning of time :rolleyes:


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    #51
    Fuseman
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 158 ✭✭Fuseman


    jobbridge4life wrote:
    Thanks for replying.

    Are you aware of the substantial differences between marriage and civil partnership?

    No worries...Give me 5 differences so please!


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    #52
    Dravokivich
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    Fuseman wrote: »
    Of course it's not the same !! And it shouldn't be treated the same. I'm all for equal rights but there has to be special provisions for an institution that have be around from the beginning of time

    What instituition?

    I'd love to join a club that had dinosaurs.


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    #53
    Fuseman
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 158 ✭✭Fuseman


    Dravokivich wrote:
    What instituition?

    I'd love to join a club that had dinosaurs.

    The institution of Marriage.


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    #54
    jobbridge4life
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    Fuseman wrote: »
    No worries...Give me 5 differences so please!

    http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/noel-whelan-what-s-the-difference-between-civil-partnership-and-marriage-1.2195514

    http://www.marriagequality.ie/download/xls/marriage_equality_missing_pieces_audit_full_list.xls

    The second link there will download a spreadsheet identifying over 100 differences.

    Fuseman if civil partnership and marriage were legal identical in all but name would you be okay with that?


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    #55
    athtrasna
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    amdublin wrote: »
    Personally I think no one should remove those No posters - think they are doing more bad than good for the No side.
    Gaspode wrote: »
    Agree 100% - the No posters would not be their campaign manager's finest hour. You can almost smell the stink of red herring from them.

    I would also encourage people not to remove posters - however tempting

    They're back!! Same lads and their ladder put them up tonight, a few of them questionably low. The no campaign seem to have a lot of money!
    amdublin wrote: »
    Oh that'd be great. But no I have not heard a dickie bird about this. Where did you see or hear these rumours?
    Friend mentioned it Thursday afternoon and saw something on FB last night, not sure Veritas would be too happy if one opened in the centre though ;)


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    #56
    A_Sober_Paddy
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    jeffk wrote: »
    Just curious as seems in general everyone finds it great when the no side posters are ripped down(video evidence on Facebook/net)

    Yet the whole process is meant to be based on equality

    To the best of my knowledge, all the new posters up around Limerick are discussing issues not in the referendum, so they shouldn't be allowed to be put up...Some of them are so far off point, they may as well read

    "Vote No, Because if You don't God is going to eat your babies"


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    #57
    todolist
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    It's ironic that Fuseman is the cool edgy one that nobody agrees with.Stick with it Fuseman...it goes in cycles.


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    #58
    Zaph
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    Please remember that all comments should be directed at what a person posts, rather than the actual poster. Thanks.


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    #59
    iatethepies
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    jobbridge4life wrote: »
    http://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/noel-whelan-what-s-the-difference-between-civil-partnership-and-marriage-1.2195514

    http://www.marriagequality.ie/download/xls/marriage_equality_missing_pieces_audit_full_list.xls

    The second link there will download a spreadsheet identifying over 100 differences.

    Fuseman if civil partnership and marriage were legal identical in all but name would you be okay with that?

    Thanks for providing the links, I've been trying to figure out the distinction between Civil Partnership and marriage for a while.

    Truthfully though, some of the differences listed in the excel seem trivial to the point of being nonsense 'A marriage cert can be used as ID'.

    Some seem to be favourable to Civil Partnership, divorce after 2 years instead of 4, regulations to do with grants/legal aid being measured against spouses income.

    I know you were just answering the question in relation to differences between the two but could you maybe do a cheat sheet for the likes of me and highlight the main distinctions?

    Unfortunately, at the moment, I'm not really sure what I'm voting for.


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    #60
    Larbre34
    Registered Users Posts: 24,080 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    iatethepies wrote: »

    I know you were just answering the question in relation to differences between the two but could you maybe do a cheat sheet for the likes of me and highlight the main distinctions?

    For the likes of you? WTF

    Youre clearly not an idiot, just lazy, get a sense of civic duty and do your own bloody research.


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    #61
    Murt10
    Registered Users Posts: 1,194 ✭✭✭Murt10


    iatethepies wrote: »
    Unfortunately, at the moment, I'm not really sure what I'm voting for.


    Me too.

    Seems to be an awful lot of fuss about a relatively trivial thing, i.e. the name of the ceremony, calling it a marriage, or a civil partnership. What's the difference. Political Correctness gone mad.

    I honestly don't see the difference between a marriage and a civil partnership.

    As for the other referendum, the one that no one is talking about. "Jedward for President". Could the Government not have come up with something more serious for the citizens to vote on.

    We must have very little to occupy ourselves if these are the two most pressing and important issues that we have to worry about


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