Did Real Madrid's Dani Carvajal bite Atletico Madrid's Mario Mandzukic?

Mr.H

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11835/9806088/watch-is-mario-mandzukic-bitten-before-being-punched-by-dani-carvajal

Anyone notice this last night? Have to say I seen the punch and thought straight red but didnt even cop the bite.

Funny considering the thread of the day yesterday.................:D

eagle eye

That is disgraceful behaviour. Carvajal should be banned for that, deserves the same punishment as somebody else who was discussed here recently.

Mr.H

What is it with Madrid though? All joking aside about the one who wont be named. Madrid seem to always attract or at least recruit players that have less than a good moral stance on gamesmanship.

They have some world class that have gone through that side but they also have some thugs.

Varane has shown this year he is no angel but we have also seen Ramos, Pepe, Mourinho, Figo, Zidane and now Carvajal who have all been less than respectful to their fellow players. I know I am missing one or two more obvious players.

There has also been a couple of other unsavory characters that have been linked with them. Which I find a bit rich when they came out and talked about their code of conduct contract a few years back

NomadicGray

Didn't think it looked like a bite, considering manduzkics flop from the hit he would have surely had a fit had he felt a bite

Will I Amnt

Absolute scummy behaviour and should be retrospectively banned. What does be going through a human being's head to think it's ok to bite someone? In a game of football? And then punch them?

Will I Amnt

NomadicGray wrote: »

Didn't think it looked like a bite, considering manduzkics flop from the hit he would have surely had a fit had he felt a bite

It clearly was an attempt to bite him, he probably didn't get the grip he tried for and so punched him. Despicable carry on.

circadian

Had the game on in the background but it seems like Real were targeting Mandzukic and knocking him around a fair bit.

Get the feeling this was a display of players frustration as Mandzukic wasn't for backing down.

Terrible, cynical and dirty behaviour.

RasTa

Didn't see any bite in the video

Mr.H

22 seconds in

RasTa

Mr.H wrote: »

22 seconds in

Nah, no bite there and the image is pointless. Look at the second clip in real time at 30 secs. He gets an arm in his face holding him off, slight swing and then gives him a dig in return.

Handbags really

GavRedKing

Theres no evidence of any bite, his mouth looks closed and theres nothing coming out so far from Mandzukic or Atletico, its a non-story IMO.

He did however throw a punch at him whihc he should be punished for.

simonw

Completely agree that if he had been bitten he would have called attention to it, nothing in it

Liam O

Mandzukic kept his arm in his face for a long time there, that'd have pissed me off. Don't think it's a bite tbh but that would have been the quickest way to cause Mandzukic harm so wouldn't rule it out.

Pro. F

Mr.H wrote: »

22 seconds in

There's no way you can tell whether he's biting or not in that picture. It's the same in the video, inconclusive. With Mandzukic not saying anything and not showing the world bite marks on his arm, the evidence is very flimsy.

Will I Amnt

I don't know what you lads are looking at, it looks to me like he moves his head in towards the arm of Mandzukic, whether he actually got the bite in is debatable but it definitely looks like he tried to,

GavRedKing

Mandzukic reacted like he'd being stabbed by Ramos earlier, had Carvajal bit him there he'd have gone over the edge all together, he had little to no reaction what so ever and theres nothing being made of this by anyone involved with Mandzukic or the club.

Pro. F

Will I Amnt wrote: »

I don't know what you lads are looking at, it looks to me like he moves his head in towards the arm of Mandzukic, whether he actually got the bite in is debatable but it definitely looks like he tried to,

He does move his face into Mario's arm, but it's a bit of a leap to say he was trying to bite him.

Will I Amnt

Pro. F wrote: »

He does move his face into Mario's arm, but it's a bit of a leap to say he was trying to bite him.

A logical leap I'd have thought. What else would he be doing?

niallo27

Will I Amnt wrote: »

A logical leap I'd have thought. What else would he be doing?

Gav's point is important though. He would have lost the plot if it happened.

TheDoc

circadian wrote: »

Had the game on in the background but it seems like Real were targeting Mandzukic and knocking him around a fair bit.

Get the feeling this was a display of players frustration as Mandzukic wasn't for backing down.

Terrible, cynical and dirty behaviour.

Watching the game was different, Mandzukic was diving and playacting all night trying to get the opposition booked and was an utter embarrassment.

elefant

Mandzukic was complaining about absolutely everything for the entire game. Non-stop. I'm struggling to remember a player whinge as much in a game as him last night. Considering this, I'm sure if he had been bitten his reaction would have been very, very obvious.

Mr.H

to be fair its not 100% that he bit him. Very difficult to tell. But what shouldnt be lost in this debate is how dirty a team they are. That is something they should be called out on

Mr.H

elefant wrote: »

Mandzukic was complaining about absolutely everything for the entire game. Non-stop. I'm struggling to remember a player whinge as much in a game as him last night. Considering this, I'm sure if he had been bitten his reaction would have been very, very obvious.

if I was punched and molested the way he was last night I would be fuming

CSF

Wouldn't have previously had Carvajal pegged as the sort. Who knows though? Nothing conclusive but it defo looks like he might have.

elefant

Mr.H wrote: »

to be fair its not 100% that he bit him. Very difficult to tell. But what shouldnt be lost in this debate is how dirty a team they are. That is something they should be called out on

I'd be the first to criticize Real Madrid, but if anything Athletico are worse. Their 'gamesmanship' is a huge part of what their game is based on.

elefant

Mr.H wrote: »

if I was punched and molested the way he was last night I would be fuming

He was playing as a striker, and committed the most fouls of any player in champions league this season. Surprising he wasn't sent off.

NomadicGray

Will I Amnt wrote: »

It clearly was an attempt to bite him, he probably didn't get the grip he tried for and so punched him. Despicable carry on.

It wasn't though

Will I Amnt

niallo27 wrote: »

Gav's point is important though. He would have lost the plot if it happened.

I don't think he actually bit him but I do think he tried to and when he couldn't get a grip punched him.

Will I Amnt

NomadicGray wrote: »

It wasn't though

His head chases the arm of Mandzukic, unless he was trying to lick him or wipe his runny nose then an attempt to bite seems a plausible explanation to me.

LuckyLloyd

Handbags, who cares.

greendom

Mr.H wrote: »

What is it with Madrid though? All joking aside about the one who wont be named. Madrid seem to always attract or at least recruit players that have less than a good moral stance on gamesmanship.

They have some world class that have gone through that side but they also have some thugs.

Varane has shown this year he is no angel but we have also seen Ramos, Pepe, Mourinho, Figo, Zidane and now Carvajal who have all been less than respectful to their fellow players. I know I am missing one or two more obvious players.

There has also been a couple of other unsavory characters that have been linked with them. Which I find a bit rich when they came out and talked about their code of conduct contract a few years back

They really should have gone for Suarez

Lovely Bloke

CSF wrote: »

defo ... might have.

I definitely might have a million pounds.

Pro. F

Will I Amnt wrote: »

A logical leap I'd have thought. What else would he be doing?

It wouldn't surprise me if it turned out he did try to bite him, or if he was just mushing his face into his arm for no useful reason. It looks like common enough type of movement of somebody who is wound up to me. He could have been just trying to push back against his arm, maybe to draw more contact and incite Mandzukic to lash out. A whole lot of agitated energy and a desire to cause a fight with Mandzukic.

Kirby

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

Handbags, who cares.

Trying to bite somebody and then punching them, is not handbags. It's pathetic.

You aren't more of a manly man for saying its handbags.

LuckyLloyd

Kirby wrote: »

Trying to bite somebody and then punching them, is not handbags. It's pathetic.

You aren't more of a manly man for saying its handbags.

Yeah it's pathetic, lumped in with all the petty kicking and pushing and diving commonplace in La Liga (and elite football generally). I just couldn't give a ****. In the grander scheme of things neither player was injured or hurt so no harm, no foul imo.

SM01

Inconclusive from that footage / still. Can't say for definite either way so I'd presume innocence.

hullaballoo

https://twitter.com/MarioMandzukic9/status/588304608415584256



That should be the end of that so.

gimmick

hullaballoo wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MarioMandzukic9/status/588304608415584256



That should be the end of that so.

And for those of us that don't speak Spanish?

Guy:Incognito

hullaballoo wrote: »

https://twitter.com/MarioMandzukic9/status/588304608415584256



That should be the end of that so.

Ah, I see , great.



I dont see. Cant speak a word of Spanish

dmc17

gimmick wrote: »

And for those of us that don't speak Spanish?

My Spanish wouldn't be the best but I'll give it a shot...

"I awoke this morning only to notice that a large portion of my forearm was missing. There appeared what looked like teeth marks around the missing portion. The only logical explanation is that I must have bitten it off whilst sleeping"

pmasterson95

Mandzukic said there was no bite.

BMJD

Will I Amnt wrote: »

What does be going through a human being's head to think it's ok to bite someone?

extreme hunger I'd say

eagle eye

GavRedKing wrote: »

Mandzukic reacted like he'd being stabbed by Ramos earlier, had Carvajal bit him there he'd have gone over the edge all together, he had little to no reaction what so ever and theres nothing being made of this by anyone involved with Mandzukic or the club.

He was pumping blood after the incident with Ramos so I'm not so sure his reaction was that bad in hindsight. It didn't look that bad on tv, I didn't think there was anything in it but when I seen the blood I was wondering if the camera angles had fooled us.

Shanotheslayer

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

no foul imo.

You'd be screaming for a red if if that happend to a Liverpool player. Can't just punch somebody on a pitch and expect to no punishment.

RedemptionZ

If Mandzukic was bitten we'd have definitely known about it. Possibility there was contact with the arm and teeth but think a lot of that is due to the height difference, Mandzukic is a big guy and towers over Carvajal, if I had to guess I'd say it's a bit of tussling, both men pushing the boundaries and Carvajal comes off worse so lashes out with a punch. Probably should've been a red in the game but very harmless stuff in the grand scheme. Happens all the time in the lower levels of football.

Will I Amnt

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

You'd be screaming for a red if if that happend to a Liverpool player. Can't just punch somebody on a pitch and expect to no punishment.

Yeah but nobody was hurt so it's grand. Let's do away with attempted murder while we're at it.
"I did fire the gun your honour, but I missed, can I go home now?"

LuckyLloyd

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

You'd be screaming for a red if if that happend to a Liverpool player. Can't just punch somebody on a pitch and expect to no punishment.

'No harm, no foul' is an expression. Essentially he gave him a light tap in the midriff and Mandzukic theatrically fell over like he'd been shot. If the ref sees it, sure - red card / no complaints. But he missed it and it's a non incident in the grander scheme of things. Not worth getting excited over imo.

Potentially leg breaking tackles are much worse than this tbh.

Bad form and deserving of a ban obviously.

hullaballoo

gimmick wrote: »

And for those of us that don't speak Spanish?

Sorry, I thought I'd posted a translation but it's roughly, "Good morning! Yesterday's match was very hard and both teams gave everything, but for me there was no controversy, no bite, no nothing."

LuckyLloyd

Fair play to him, good attitude. Some posters in this thread could take a cue from him.