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St Vincent's loses Primary Care Dept for heart events

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  • 16-04-2015 10:57am
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    GreystonesCFR
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭


    "Effective 16:00hrs Friday April 17th, 2015, St. Vincents University Hospital will no longer be a designated Primary PCI ( Stent fitting )Centre for STEMI ( Heart event )patients. Identified STEMI patients should no longer be transported to St Vincent's but the next PPCI centre."

    The ambulances will drive past St Vincent's !

    This means that patients, identified with heart attacks will drive by SVUH and be brought to St. James or the Mater Hospital for treatment. We know that "time is muscle" and the longer a person is having a heart attack the more heart muscle damage and possibility of a cardiac arrest increases.

    This is a disaster for the people of east county Wicklow and also the people of south County Dublin. This is a disaster for members of our communities.

    It is being carried out with no public notice, no warning, no consultation and it is effective immediately.

    We need your help again.

    Wicklow Cardiac First Responders wish to highlight it. Please can everyone use their emails, phones, TEXT, Facebook, Twitter accounts to announce. it. Contact East Coast FM, Morning Ireland, Joe Duffy, Ray Darcy, everyone !

    We need to reverse this decision for all the members of communities across Co. Wicklow and South Co. Dublin, our families, our friends, our neighbours and the next generations.

    Please contact your local TD's and let them know.


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    loyatemu
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    Is Tallaght a designated hospital? - it's closer than either James' or the Mater.

    From the Bray bypass:
    Vincent's - 21 mins
    Tallaght - 24 mins
    James' - 28 mins
    Mater - 33 mins

    that's according to Google and without traffic, which is probably likely to be more of an issue for James' and the Mater.


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    GreystonesCFR
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭GreystonesCFR


    loyatemu wrote: »
    Is Tallaght a designated hospital? - it's closer than either James' or the Mater.

    From the Bray bypass:
    Vincent's - 21 mins
    Tallaght - 24 mins
    James' - 28 mins
    Mater - 33 mins

    that's according to Google and without traffic, which is probably likely to be more of an issue for James' and the Mater.

    Unfortunately Tallaght have lost their designation too. When it come to a heart event whether it's a heart attack or cardiac arrest, time is of the essence. It is crazy to drive past a hospital that has all the facilities needed to help someone and go somewhere else, as the old saying goes "time is muscle". The faster you get treatment the better.


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    Langerland
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    So for the entire Greater Dublin area (about 2 million people), there are 2 designated hospitals in the city center???
    Is this another temporary measure?


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    GreystonesCFR
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭GreystonesCFR


    Yes, not only that but for a lot of Co. Wicklow too. That's why we need everyone to raise this issue with their local TDs and publicise it widely


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    GreystonesCFR
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    Apologies, not a temporary measure either. They tried to close it before in November last but after a big outcry they said it wouldn't close !


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    Alun
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    I agree, it's ridiculous. It's bad enough having to go to St. Vincents in an emergency as it is, as traffic around there can be quite busy at certain times of the day. But to have to drive past it through the city centre, potentially at rush hour to get to St. James or Mater is just idiotic.


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    Cerco
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    This is disgraceful. What is the justification to put lives at risk?
    Are the ambulance personnel qualified to identify coronary problems to the absolute exclusion of other cause?
    Bad enough that we lost the A&E at Loughlinstown but now this. This is bizarre.
    I am sure this will be reversed when our local TD's are bombarded with complaints. Definitely an election issue to be resolved in the short term.


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    exgp
    Registered Users Posts: 126 ✭✭exgp


    Has any reason been given for this. It seems strange that one of Ireland's best hospitals should not be performing this common procedure.


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    Cerco
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    Can the Op provide a reference for this news please?


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    GreystonesCFR
    Registered Users Posts: 9 ✭GreystonesCFR


    Cerco wrote: »
    Can the Op provide a reference for this news please?

    There will be an announcement about this issue on East Coast Radio's Morning Show today. Tune in to hear what the HSE have to say.


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    Banta
    Registered Users Posts: 262 ✭✭Banta


    All I could find online for the moment: http://wicklowvoice.ie/st-vincent/
    Deputy Billy Timmins has responded to the announcement stating, “...similar situation arose last year and I raised the matter in the Dáil, the decision was then reversed. I will once again raise the matter with the Minister for Health...


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    punisher5112
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    I actually am astonished and completely disgusted by this news.

    People need to get onto the local tds and get something moving as its going to take more lives needlessly.

    They seem to be more interested in setting up speed checks and creating any other tax they can think of.

    If they are using the UK as an example or something they shouldn't as over there they have access to many helicopters to transport.

    Shocking.


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    GreystonesCFR
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    The expected interview with the HSE on East Coast Radio's Morning Show won't happen til Monday or Tuesday as they are doing their annual Coffee Morning fundraising this morning and they can't give it their full attention. All will be explained then.


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    Langerland
    Registered Users Posts: 328 ✭✭Langerland


    Did this air on East Coast FM? I haven't heard anything.


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    glenjamin
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    Cerco wrote: »
    This is disgraceful. What is the justification to put lives at risk?
    Are the ambulance personnel qualified to identify coronary problems to the absolute exclusion of other cause?
    Bad enough that we lost the A&E at Loughlinstown but now this. This is bizarre.
    I am sure this will be reversed when our local TD's are bombarded with complaints. Definitely an election issue to be resolved in the short term.

    Yes they are. It's fairly easy to rule out respiratory or any kind of muscular problems with the chest. Angina can be recognized, but any sort of cardiac issues will now have to bypass Vincent's no matter the severity of the problem. It's a complete joke. Anyone who starts feeling the onsets of a heart attack or an MI will now have to ring for an ambulance, wait for the ambulance to arrive, get treatment on scene, be loaded into the ambulance, and taken to the Mater Hospital or James'. You're looking at potentially over an hour, depending on location and the time of day, before you get to the hospital. Madness.


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