Is it me or is Wheeler Dealers a waste of time

sonofenoch

Geniass wrote: »

Well, I'm glad I'm not in punching distance of Guy, if that's what you mean.



You just don't get it

I do actually, the premise of the show is about popularity and that's how it makes money........but yer man Brewer doesn't half emphasize the "profit" bit on the car at end when there is usually very little....aswell as that I reckon they massively undersell them most times

Guy:Incognito

Geniass wrote: »

If Ed was doing the whole thing then yeah. But, it's Mike at the end of the show going, whoopee, profit. :rolleyes:

I don't understand how you don't get that.

What am I not getting. The show is a tv show version of you at home doing it yourself.You seem insistant on looking at it as a tv show, despite me saying over and over to seperate the 2 elements. The TV show is frontage, thee to make money from selling the show and advertising. From that regard it could be a show about anything,the content is irrelevant.

Now we get to the content. From a "I can do this at home" pov the show bit above is completely forgotten about. You, at home restoring a car on your own and selling it are Mike and Edd in one. The fact that you are represented by 2 people in the show means nothing. You're doing both jobs and not charging for either. So profit. Simples (well you'd think so ,but you know, some people........)

Tarzana2

Geniass wrote: »

I've already worked on a TV show.

Oh my god, it was called 'Sick on a Widow', wasn't it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIyg2a72uV4

kneemos

Geniass wrote: »

If Ed was doing the whole thing then yeah. But, it's Mike at the end of the show going, whoopee, profit. :rolleyes:

I don't understand how you don't get that.

The show is a demonstration of what a DIY'er could do,hence the "whoopee profit".

Geniass

Tarzana2 wrote: »

Oh my god, it was called 'Sick on a Widow', wasn't it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIyg2a72uV4

Not going to click that - never heard of it.

Geniass

kneemos wrote: »

The show is a demonstration of what a DIY'er could do,hence the "whoopee profit".

Only if the "Mike" could get a highly trained mechanic to work for free. How likely is that?

SEPT 23 1989

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Ed China works for free

I'd pay Ed China to work on my car any day.

Guy:Incognito

sonofenoch wrote: »

I do actually, the premise of the show is about popularity and that's how it makes money........but yer man Brewer doesn't half emphasize the "profit" bit on the car at end when there is usually very little....aswell as that I reckon they massively undersell them most times

If you're looking to make yourself a millionaire off a hobby , then buying and doing up cars isnt the place to do it. Study and play with stocks or something. This is about people who like cars taking on projects in their spare time and if you make a few quid for some pints, great.

Guy:Incognito

kneemos wrote: »

The show is a demonstration of what a DIY'er could do,hence the "whoopee profit".

But but but .....labour.

SEPT 23 1989

Deleted User wrote: »

I'd pay Ed China to work on my car any day.

so would i

never loses the head everything is so easy:D

Guy:Incognito

Geniass wrote: »

Only if the "Mike" could get a highly trained mechanic to work for free. How likely is that?

:rolleyes:

****ing hell, the point is the DIY'er is Mike and Edd.

Most of the stuff he does is doable as DIY. Might involve some research but its doable.

FanadMan

cml387 wrote: »

And did you notice the O'Connell St/Sraid Ui Conaill signpost at the back of the garage?

Think that sign has been there from the beginning - well, in the current garage anyway.

SEPT 23 1989

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

:rolleyes:

****ing hell, the point is the DIY'er is Mike and Edd.

Most of the stuff he does is doable as DIY. Might involve some research but its doable.

if you have a fully operational garage and are not putting a car on its side on the driveway most things are doable

Guy:Incognito

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

if you have a fully operational garage and are not putting a car on its side on the driveway most things are doable

There are lads all over Ireland, the UK and the rest of the world doing these job on their cars every weekend on driveways. Go on any owners forum and you'll see them there posting about it.

It's harder, requires ingenuity and is a pain in the hole when it rains, but it happens.

SEPT 23 1989

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

There are lads all over Ireland, the UK and the rest of the world doing these job on their cars every weekend on driveways. Go on any owners forum and you'll see them there posting about it.

It's harder, requires ingenuity and is a pain in the hole when it rains, but it happens.

Used to do it myself

Tarzana2

Geniass wrote: »

Not going to click that - never heard of it.

Your loss!

Streetwalker

Never watched the show but it sounds dire.

Geniass

Tarzana2 wrote: »

Your loss!

At least you're not claiming a "profit" :P

Poor Uncle Tom

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

There are lads all over Ireland, the UK and the rest of the world doing these job on their cars every weekend on driveways. Go on any owners forum and you'll see them there posting about it.

It's harder, requires ingenuity and is a pain in the hole when it rains, but it happens.

Could have used Caredoc in the 1980's, Sunday mornings always saw a Capri gearbox being changed or a Cortina Clutch..... smashed my right thumb when a mark1 escort engine slipped sideways in the bay while I was taking it out, using ropes instead of chains and it slipped. It was like squashing a grape, the nail stayed attached to the flesh underneath but it had slipped out over the cuticle and it had split right up the centre, the pain didn't start until the wonderment ended....:D Glory days, I was back driving that escort before the sun went down...

...__...

Best one was the camper van when edd said we can sleep in here and mike sharp as a tack said not at the same time lol

dandyelevan

I restore vintage bicycles and depending what the client wants done, a bike could take a week's work. I don't charge for my time, and would consider it a good day if I made 40 euro on a bike. The real reward is a job well done, plus the delight of the customer on having their deceased relatives bike restored.
Restoration is not always about profit.

jayo26

dandyelevan wrote: »

I restore vintage bicycles and depending what the client wants done, a bike could take a week's work. I don't charge for my time, and would consider it a good day if I made 40 euro on a bike. The real reward is a job well done, plus the delight of the customer on having their deceased relatives bike restored.
Restoration is not always about profit.

While some would say your foolish for giving your time up like that i would say its great way to look at life and you will be rewarded down the line,

rubadub

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

As a tv show it may as well be a cooking show. That is separate to showing how you can make a few quid doing up cars

yeah, Jamie Oliver has a program showing how much cheaper it is to make stuff yourself than getting a takeaway, many cooking programs mention price. He does not factor in labour costs. In cooking programs I have never seen them costing electricity either. Some people might not enjoy cooking and so might well factor in shopping, cooking, equipment costs and prep time when comparing to a takeaway.

I always take their "profit" to be their wages, I like to hear how long it took. Ed often says how much things would have cost if you went to a garage.

kowloon

Egginacup wrote: »

The Taliban actually know a thing or two about automotive excellence. That's why they cruise around, 8 of them, with their Kalashnikovs in those Toyota pickups.....the ones that clarkson and his gang couldn't destroy.

Clarkson couldn't call in a drone attack.

Sleepy

I like the show but have always thought it would be 20 times better if it was presented by Ed China on his own. Mike Brewer is insufferable imo.

I'd echo the comments about preferring the earlier episodes when they were working from smaller budgets and did a lot more DIY repairs that would be more like what the average guy with his own garage / bit of room in the driveway could do. (e.g. using rattle cans to touch up paint etc.). It's one hobby I'd love to get into, go to all the vintage car shows around Dublin but it's just out of reach for me financially. Can definitely see myself getting into it should I ever get more financially stable.

kneemos

Watched a show on Channel 4 last night about renovating an Aston Martin.
What I find really annoying is that about 90% of it was nothing to do with renovating the bloody car.A lot of these shows are do this,at least Wheeler Dealers is predominantly about the car.