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Celtic/SFA Issue

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    Amazing they have a committee to review this, and in a clearcut case decide to do nothing.
    It's very clearly a handball and red card.

    Fair enough if the referee missed it in real time (sh!t happens), but how can the committee not spot it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭bobmalooka


    Eirebear wrote: »
    So you're suggesting something more sinister than an "Honest Mistake"?
    Now we're getting to the crux of the issue for Celtic eh? The great conspiracy.

    I have only suggested an explanation is needed.

    it appears he saw the incident, it appears his assistant did and communicated with him. I thinks it's fair to say clarification is needed how he ended up deciding on no action.

    If I commited gross incompetence at work I would need to explain myself to my employer and the parties involved would subsequently demand (and receive) clarification.

    It is a perfectly reasonable question for Celtic to ask of the SFA, Id have thought Rangers fans would know by now that accountability is a good thing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Mr Regan,

    Firstly let me congratulate Inverness Caley Thistle
    and Falkirk Football Club on their achievement of reaching the Scottish FA
    Cup Final. Hopefully it will be a great day for both teams and their
    supporters; and the best team will win for the right reasons.

    As for the match yesterday when Inverness managed to
    beat my team and get to the final; that’s another story altogether; and
    another example of blatant cheating involving referees and officials working
    on behalf of the SFA.

    I make no apologies whatsoever for using the term
    “CHEATING” as i was sitting about seventy yards away in the North Stand and
    clearly saw the hand ball which at least three match officials much closer
    than me must have seen as well.

    I have watched the incident back several times and
    seen the still pictures; i would like the match officials to come out and
    explain why Celtic were not awarded a penalty and a red card issued to the
    offending player Josh Meekings.

    I would also be delighted to hear your opinion on
    the incident; i assume you were in one of the better seats of Hampden and
    would have had a good view of the incident.

    I have said to you before there seems to be an
    anti-Celtic agenda going on at the SFA; too many situations have occurred
    for that not to be the case; I’ll mention a couple; you can explain them to
    me.

    Derk Boerrigter, cited by the compliance officer and
    given a two game suspension for simulation. No problem with that; but are we
    to believe that Derk is the only player in Scottish Football who dived
    seeking to gain an advantage?

    Aleksandar Tonev, cited by the compliance officer
    and given a seven match suspension for making a racist remark to Shay Logan.
    Not one single witness or technical evidence to support the charge; yet
    Aleksandar is convicted on the “Balance of probabilities”.

    Leigh Griffiths, cited by the compliance officer and
    charged with singing a disrespectful song about Hearts; the outcome still to
    be decided.

    John Guidetti, cited by the compliance officer and
    charged with singing a disrespectful song about Rangers; the outcome still
    to be decided.

    I would like to know if the players of Celtic
    Football Club are the only ones under scrutiny by the SFA. As there doesn’t
    appear to be the same scrutiny used with regards to players of other teams.

    Getting back to match officials. Was “Operation Stop
    the Treble” confined to match officials? Or were board members like you and
    Campbell Ogilvie also involved? How we have managed to be top of the league
    and have already won the League Cup is a remarkable achievement in the
    circumstances.

    Steven McLean and Alan Muir have a lot of explaining
    to do with regards to yesterday; and I’m not sure what part the North Stand
    assistant had to play in the incident. But of course they won’t be asked to
    explain why they cheated; they will be supported by you and your
    accomplices; just as they always are.

    McLean has a history of treating Celtic with
    disdain; maybe it comes from being a supporter of Rangers; and his brother
    having played for Rangers. He has been ably abetted this season by Thomson,
    Madden, and Collum; to name a few.

    I think the latest “Honest Mistake” might just be
    the final nail in the coffin with regards to the SFA and the supporters of
    Celtic FC. We will now organise our supporters groups with a view to
    exerting the financial clout we have in Scottish Football.

    There will be no cash cow of the Celtic Support at
    Hampden for the Cup Final, you will need to be creative for once to try and
    get more than 20,000 to attend; it won’t be easy not having the Celtic
    supporters to suck dry.



    Joe O’Rourke,

    This is from the General Secretary of the Celtic Supporters Association.

    Utter lunatic it seems.

    When Stewart Regan basically told him he wouldn't respond due to the nature of the email he came out with this gem:
    Dear Mr Regan,

    I’m sorry you found my previous mail not to your taste; I’m elected
    by the member branches to represent their views and try to fulfil their
    hopes and aspirations. The mail i sent you had the full backing of our
    Executive Committee.

    You are relatively new to Scottish Football, and i had hoped you
    would have been a refreshing change to what we had been used to previously.
    I met with you early in your tenure when we were about to boycott
    Kilmarnock; that boycott was called off because you promised us a new era of
    transparency and accountability.

    So based on that; why don’t you or your match officials come out and
    explain what happened on Sunday afternoon with regards to the missed penalty
    incident? Now if that had been a match with only a single match official;
    namely a referee i could accept that an incident can be missed; but we had
    six officials; and three of them in close proximity to the incident; so if
    all three are saying they missed the incident; then i would conclude at
    least one and possibly more are not telling the truth.

    I believe the conversation between the officials is recorded. For
    the benefit of all concerned; and to be totally transparent why don’t you
    release a transcript of what was said; because it is clear on video that
    Alan Muir was certainly speaking into his microphone; or is it another
    “Dougie Dougie” situation?

    Mr Regan, you can get upset all you want about the content of my
    mail; you are not the one being cheated. How many “Honest Mistakes” are we
    supposed to just accept? And in particular in cup semi’s and finals.

    Everyone knows that human error is part of most sports, and we have
    had the benefit of that too; but not as often as it has went against us. But
    for the officials to claim not to have seen the incident; and the Supervisor
    John Fleming to claim no-one is the stadium seen it in real time beggars
    belief; i was seventy yards away and saw it.

    You have now compounded the situation by suspending Josh Meekings. I
    have no sympathy with Mr Keetings; by his actions in trying to con people
    into thinking the ball hit him on the head; he was complicit by his actions;
    but i have never known any player to be suspended in a similar situation.

    So at the end of the day the officials just carry on. Managers lose
    their jobs because of some of these incidents but the officials carry on
    with impunity. Supporters see their team denied the opportunity to win
    trophies; but the officials just get more games and more money; no wonder
    the supporters are sick of it all.

    Finally Mr Regan. I will continue to represent my members and the
    Celtic Support in general to the best of my ability; thankfully i don’t need
    your endorsement to do that. I was here a long time before you; and if God
    spares me I’ll be here a long time after you have gone.

    Regards,

    Joe O’Rourke,
    General Secretary,
    Celtic Supporters Association.

    And then they are surprised when people get pissed off with them when this kind of madness is presented as 'We just want some explanation'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,308 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Funny how this is the first time I seen the above and it is posted by a new Rangers fan... still obsessed


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,839 ✭✭✭Jelle1880


    Yes, I'm obsessed because I post something relevant to the thread :)

    I just love seeing Celtic fans (especially Joe 'I wish more Protestants had died on the Titanic' O'Rourke) embarrassing themselves in their crusade for justice.
    I mean read that stuff, it's insane.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,325 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Yes, I'm obsessed because I post something relevant to the thread :)

    I just love seeing Celtic fans (especially Joe 'I wish more Protestants had died on the Titanic' O'Rourke) embarrassing themselves in their crusade for justice.
    I mean read that stuff, it's insane.

    At least we don't give our lunatics places on the board ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,521 ✭✭✭bobmalooka


    Jelle1880 wrote: »
    Yes, I'm obsessed because I post something relevant to the thread :)

    I just love seeing Celtic fans (especially Joe 'I wish more Protestants had died on the Titanic' O'Rourke) embarrassing themselves in their crusade for justice.
    I mean read that stuff, it's insane.

    Did you not previously defend a similarly delusional "fan" being appointed to the boardroom at Rangers?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    Haha! It's been a while since we've heard from Semi Colon O'Rourke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,014 ✭✭✭Eirebear


    RoryMac wrote: »
    At least we don't give our lunatics places on the board ;)

    No, but the SPFL give your lunatics places on their boards. ;)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,325 ✭✭✭RoryMac


    Eirebear wrote: »
    No, but the SPFL give your lunatics places on their boards. ;)

    Can't get to onto the SPFL board unless you are one


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Eirebear wrote: »
    I don't think anyone here suggests it wasn't a big mistake by the ref - but a "handful of incidents" really?
    If the penalty had been given and he'd got booked - we wouldn't be talking about it now.
    It was an instinctive reaction, there's no way he had time to think about what he was doing and "cheat" to the level which you suggest.

    Yes, only a handful. I'd like to see your list of incidents that were worse. I think you'd struggle and you know it too.

    Instinctive reaction?? Not a chance it was that. It was deliberate movement of the hand to stop a goal scoring opportunity, unbelieveable that you'd suggest otherwise.


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