REAL MADRID VS. ATLÉTICO MADRID

Caovyn Lineah

Headshot wrote: »

such a horrible match

Kicking the lumps out of each other

But they're not!! They are barely touching each other

efb

kfallon wrote: »

Bullshít! The final was dire, the rest of the tournament was very good!

Really???

My fave world cup was France 98 followed by Mexico 86

MythicalMadMan

Ronnie Whealen nut worst excuse from a commentator, just so bad it hurts, how do people like this get them jobs and keep em

murpho999

Ulysses Gaze wrote: »

Trying not to sound too much lime an old timer but football back in the 1980's was much better. Not as much play acting.

This is not true and the reason is that you haven't really got anyway of knowing.

Why? Because there was hardly any live football on TV.

The European Cup as it was then was not shown live except for the final so the only time we got to see foreign players was in International tournaments and then the play acting of Latino players was obvious. Diving was an issue just as much then.
Some games were truly awful as well and it was 3 points for a win combined with new back pass rule that changed the game in my opinion.

niallo27

efb wrote: »

Really???

My fave world cup was France 98 followed by Mexico 86

Germany 06 was a great World Cup.

SantryRed

Hernandez should enjoy that moment as he is most definitely not a top level player. Really hampered Madrid tonight and with Benzema I think they would have filled their boots.

efb

God some of the matches with the backpass to the goalie

kfallon

efb wrote: »

Really???

My fave world cup was France 98 followed by Mexico 86

So because it wasn't one of your favs, it was dire?

Good logic there.....

Ulysses Gaze

efb wrote: »

The skill levels were lower, the tackling more dangerous

Agree....take a look at some of the tackles inflicted on the likes of Maradona back in the 1980's

Some would be straight reds nowadays and they weren't even getting cautioned!

efb

niallo27 wrote: »

Germany 06 was a great World Cup.

Yes! Meant to say that- the best WC in recent times

dahat

Headshot wrote: »

such a horrible match

Kicking the lumps out of each other

Always goes that way when two big teams from Spain pair up, it ruins games.

Rayne Wooney

Now for the real entertainment on RTE

efb

kfallon wrote: »

So because it wasn't one of your favs, it was dire?

Good logic there.....

No. The football in USA 94 was awful to watch

klose

Well that was a dreadful waste of 2 hours, barca real sem please!

GreNoLi

Sweden '58 was a corker.

Ol' Donie

Stupid Real Madrid. All I wanted was penos.

Why did you deny me penos?

Johner

SantryRed wrote: »

Hernandez should enjoy that moment as he is most definitely not a top level player. Really hampered Madrid tonight and with Benzema I think they would have filled their boots.

Decent goal poacher but terrible at leading the line. Not near the required standard for Real Madrid but they won't care tonight.

RoryMac

efb wrote: »

I don't agree with that at all.

I think skill.is more to the fore nowadays


Then Holland in the 70s were better than Holland now

Depends what you are watching

My point was that for me 80's football was the worst I've seen, before the back pass rule was introduced you had mind numbingly boring games with little actual play.

For me the football in the late 90's was better before the play acting took hold but although football now has its issues I still think in general its far better than the 80's

Caovyn Lineah

G'wan Didi, speaking an insane amount of sense.

efb

GreNoLi wrote: »

Sweden '58 was a corker.

Before my time grandad

Headshot

Didi talking sense
Saying it like it is

efb

RoryMac wrote: »

My point was that for me 80's football was the worst I've seen, before the back pass rule was introduced you had mind numbingly boring games with little actual play.

For me the football in the late 90's was better before the play acting took hold but although football now has its issues I still think in general its far better than the 80's

Agreed it's better now.

klose

Headshot wrote: »

Didi talking sense
Saying it like it is

Always does, easily my favourite pundit.

Schwiiing

klose wrote: »

Well that was a dreadful waste of 2 hours, barca real sem please!

So we can watch Alba Busquets Ronaldo Neymar Pepe and Ramos have a roll about on the ground for 180 minutes. Can't wait.

efb

If you aren't punished why would you stop?

Caovyn Lineah

Schwiiing wrote: »

So we can watch Alba Busquets Ronaldo Neymar Pepe and Ramos have a roll about on the ground for 180 minutes. Can't wait.

Id rather they did it in the semi and not the final.

Caovyn Lineah

efb wrote: »

If you aren't punished why would you stop?

Pride in yourself? Honour? Not embarassing yourself in front of an audience of millions?

efb

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Pride in yourself? Honour? Not embarassing yourself in front of an audience of millions?

If you get a penalty and your team wins your fan loves you!

Some here think hard fouling is a less crime than play acting they are both cheating!!!

efb

Unless the rules change it won't stop

Caovyn Lineah

efb wrote: »

Unless the rules change it won't stop

Diving is against the rules.

Bridge93

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Id rather they did it in the semi and not the final.

Leicester and Chelsea might be playing their refix the same night so you might have that to watch.

Osmosis Jones

Players won't stop diving when referees start giving out more bookings, they'll stop when referees start actually giving free kicks in situations where the player stays standing after a foul.

efb

I really like Darragh Maloney. Talks a lot of sense.

efb

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Diving is against the rules.

It's very difficult to prove a dive. Minimal contact is still contact!

Turtwig

Turtwig wrote: »

This could be a dirty disgrace or a compelling drama or both. Hopefully it won't be one of the more infamous derbies.

Awful match but somewhat compelling. Madrid deserved to go through.

Kirby

Henry is talking a fierce amount of sh*te here.....

GreNoLi

Never a yellow.

Ardent

Weird to hear Didi Hamann talk about cynicism in football, he was a world class spoiler himself!!

Osmosis Jones

Turtwig wrote: »

Awful match but somewhat compelling. Madrid deserved to go through.

Hedging your bets there:pac:

efb

Didi is correct

Bridge93

The diving and other shenanigans is awful and an epidemic everywhere with Spain being the worst.
I don't think people can blame Atletico for the style they played tonight. If they opened up they would be ripped apart. Having had a 0-0 they couldn't really afford to be loose, they had to be tight and try knick one. The same issue happens with negative football in England. The annoying thing is we know Atletico can play based on games like Chelsea last year.

Osmosis Jones

Bridge93 wrote: »

The diving and other shenanigans is awful and an epidemic everywhere with Spain being the worst.
I don't think people can blame Atletico for the style they played tonight. If they opened up they would be ripped apart. Having had a 0-0 they couldn't really afford to be loose, they had to be tight and try knick one. The same issue happens with negative football in England. The annoying thing is we know Atletico can play based on games like Chelsea last year.

No problem with a solid defensive performance, that's good tactics, there's a difference between that and cynical play though.

Lukker-

That's actually a really good panel rte have there.

Didi and Darragh talk sense and then you have Eamon on the wind up for ****s and giggles.

efb

I could do without Eamon's bs tbf

Bridge93

Osmosis Jones wrote: »

No problem with a solid defensive performance, that's good tactics, there's a difference between that and cynical play though.

I agree the dirt play around the tactics is what's destroying football increasingly

theoneeyedman

Came into this game kinda hoping atletico went tru, but happy enough they were beaten given the way they approached the game. Way too negative.....don't think the sending off made sfa difference either. They played fcuk all ball for first 75 mins, so what's to suggest they would do any different in the last 15 with 11 men, then they did with the 10

Pro. F

Hernandez is such a quality striker. His movement off the ball, looking for space is great to watch. Not the ideal type of striker to have playing beside Ronaldo, but a top quality player nontheless.

Osmosis Jones

Pro. F wrote: »

Hernandez is such a quality striker. His movement off the ball, looking for space is great to watch. Not the ideal type of striker to have playing beside Ronaldo, but a top quality player nontheless.

Wouldn't agree with that at all. Decent finisher and gets in some nice positions, punching way above his weight at Madrid.

Shanotheslayer

Pissed me so much seeing the camera go to Ronaldo and showing him celebrate rather than Hernandez

Ol' Donie

Ha, good man Darragh.

Richie: Ronaldo ran off on his own celebrating...

Darragh: So?

(Paraphrasing, but good to see.)