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A bad smell in the air.....

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  • #32
    Tom Dunne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,212 ✭✭✭✭Tom Dunne


    mass_debater wrote: »
    You do realise Lenovo bought the HP ThinkPad division

    Lenovo bought the IBM computer division, including the laptop rights.

    Details here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenovo#Mergers_and_acquisitions


  • #33
    syklops
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,966 ✭✭✭✭syklops


    Itzy wrote: »
    Firstly, I've had two through work and the design of both doesn't exactly appeal to me. Looks a bit too blocky. On the other hand, they perform well, but that's not something that would hook my interest.

    I'd rather a top end HP or Alienware Machine, as they both perform very well and look good. The only downside being the price.

    Performing well doesn't hook your interest?

    Ok.

    I had an Alienware. It was terrible and weighed a ton.


  • #34
    mass_debater
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,072 ✭✭✭mass_debater


    Tom Dunne wrote: »
    Lenovo bought the IBM computer division, including the laptop rights.

    Details here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenovo#Mergers_and_acquisitions

    I knew that, not sure how I mixed that up


  • #35
    PrzemoF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭PrzemoF


    "Microsoft’s commitment to openness and transparency is ingrained in our day-to-day approach to doing business alongside industry partners, including open source communities. To be successful in a mobile-first, cloud-first world, we need to be open. It’s good for our customers and our business"

    I can't stop laughing!!!! :-D

    I missed the memo that MS bought words "openness" and "transparency" and changed their meaning!


  • #36
    Tom Dunne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,212 ✭✭✭✭Tom Dunne


    PrzemoF wrote: »
    I missed the memo that MS bought words "openness" and "transparency" and changed their meaning!

    In fairness, the company has done a huge u-turn on so many things since the new guy was appointed last year. Case in point: giving away Windows 10 free when it is released later this year. That would have been unthinkable up to very recently.

    Yes, I think history has proven that you take a lot of what Microsoft says with a large pinch of salt when it comes to openness and transparency. However, I do think we are in a period of change for Microsoft as they come to terms with the reality of the modern IT market.


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  • #37
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,021 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    Tom Dunne wrote: »
    In fairness, the company has done a huge u-turn on so many things since the new guy was appointed last year. Case in point: giving away Windows 10 free when it is released later this year. That would have been unthinkable up to very recently.

    Just a corporate strategy to try to calm the angry Win 8 users.
    They have not changed their aims or attitudes.
    Yes, I think history has proven that you take a lot of what Microsoft says with a large pinch of salt when it comes to openness and transparency. However, I do think we are in a period of change for Microsoft as they come to terms with the reality of the modern IT market.

    MS are definitely changing their corporate strategy, and even mouthing apparently correct words ....... but so far it has gone no further than that in any significant way.

    There is no indication it is anything other than that, and even if it appeared more, one year is not sufficient to wipe out the decades of 'bad behaviour'.

    https://www.yahoo.com/tech/microsoft-clarifies-who-gets-free-windows-10-114730456889.html


  • #38
    Tom Dunne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,212 ✭✭✭✭Tom Dunne


    Johnboy1951 wrote: »
    Just a corporate strategy to try to calm the angry Win 8 users.

    While I don't want to turn this into a discussion about Microsoft strategy, calming angry Windows 8 users is possibly as far from the reality of the situation as you can get.

    What is actually happening is that Microsoft is shifting to a subscription model for as much as they can. They realise that Windows operating system is no longer the cash-cow it once was, the future is in services such as office 365, azure, Xbox and many more besides.


  • #39
    PrzemoF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭PrzemoF


    I heard about that guy, but giving closed source software for free is anti-openness in my dictionary. It gives nothing to the open source community, instead it keeps some users that "sit on the fence" of the open source on the ms side. Unfortunately word "free" in English has 2 meanings (I feel like RMS is watching over my shoulder what I'm typing here...), so it's easy to call something a free software even if it has nothing to do with "free like freedom" software.


  • #40
    Tom Dunne
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,212 ✭✭✭✭Tom Dunne


    PrzemoF wrote: »
    I heard about that guy, but giving closed source software for free is anti-openness in my dictionary.

    I honestly don't think Microsoft executives stay awake at night worrying that their purely commercial decision to give away Windows 10 is "anti-openess".

    I don't think the concept of open source even registers on their radar.

    However, trying to spin what they are doing as somehow anti-Linux/anti-open source displays a fundamental misunderstanding of market forces and the direction in which the broader ICT industry is moving. It's a strategic decision based purely on the premise of increasing revenue streams through getting people/companies to pay a smaller monthly/yearly premium rather than buying software outright.

    It's pure economics.


  • #41
    PrzemoF
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,931 ✭✭✭PrzemoF


    "MICROSOFT reportedly threatened to move its research facilities out of the UK if the government went ahead with plans to promote open source standards."

    http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2409808/microsoft-bullied-mps-over-government-switch-to-open-source-standards

    It's hard to belive that changing one guy, even in the key position, could trickle down the ladder and change the way of thinking in the whole company that was built on having monopoly.


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  • #42
    excollier
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭excollier


    I hope the horrible, greedy, monopolistic, bullying ballbags clear off and take their proprietary ball home with them.


  • #43
    Nonmonotonic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 422 ✭✭Nonmonotonic


    Déjà Vu.


  • #44
    Johnboy1951
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,021 ✭✭✭✭Johnboy1951


    I am, and have been, surprised that some group/company/whatever of the Linux community has not forced MS, to either put up or shut up, about multiple patent infringements etc.

    It seems obvious that over the years such claims were meant to, and did, do damage to the reputation and acceptance of 'Linux'.

    If those were false claims, designed only to harm, there must surely have been a legal means of forcing a closure.


  • #45
    excollier
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭excollier


    M$ will never really change. They want it all and will resort to any tactics to achieve it.


  • #46
    L.Jenkins
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 19,241 Mod ✭✭✭✭L.Jenkins


    excollier wrote: »
    M$ will never really change. They want it all and will resort to any tactics to achieve it.

    They're a business at the end of the day and not a charitable organisation set up for the betterment of man and the IT world. So anything they do, good or bad wouldn't surprise me.


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