PFA Team of the Year

Alfred Borden

Cahill and Coutinho shouldnt be anywhere near it but couldnt argue with the rest of it.

MD1990

Fully deserved for Coutinho imo. Easy to be fooled by stats.

GavRedKing

Raf32 wrote: »

Cahill and Coutinho shouldnt be anywhere near it but couldnt argue with the rest of it.

100% agreed on the above.

The rest is pretty spot on, Aguero could have featured too IMO.

Id have Cesc over Couthino anyday and Fonte over Cahill.

AdamD

Fabregas should be in ahead of Coutinho, easily. Cazorla was better than him too. Not sure about Cahill getting in either

GavRedKing

Forgot about Cazorla whos been very good from CM to this year actually.

Cahill is the bigger issue IMO

Dozen Wicked Words

First time Terry has made it for a while, fully deserved this season I think. Would query Cahill getting in, a good strong end to his season but very average otherwise.

pmasterson95

Fonte for Cahill


Eriksen/Cazorla/Fabregas over Coutinho.

Kirby

Cahill getting in is ridiculous.

GavRedKing

Cahill has done a lot better since the roasting Kane gave him on New Years day but he shouldnt be in the team IMO.

I'd imagine most chelsea fans will say the same, JT has carried that back line a lot this year.

Rayne Wooney

Cahill and Coutinho the wrong inclusions tbh

I don't want to turn this into another Coutinho bashing thread like the last one but Eriksen was a lot better this season imo

irishfeen

Cahill and Coutinho are just bizarre inclusions - bizarre and wrong.

Skylinehead

Fonte for Cahill
Fabregas or Cazorla for Coutinho

Then you could quibble over Courtois/De Gea and Aguero/Costa but not much in it for those positions.

Harry Palmr

So then Utd get one place and its the keeper.

Is there a bench? That might be where Falcao, Di Maria, Herrera, Daley Blind, Marcos Rojo and Luke Shaw are.

Alfred Borden

Harry Palmr wrote: »

So then Utd get one place and its the keeper.

Is there a bench? That might be where Falcao, Di Maria, Herrera, Daley Blind, Marcos Rojo and Luke Shaw are.

Why did ya come in with an anti united post?

Skylinehead

Harry Palmr wrote: »

So then Utd get one place and its the keeper.

Is there a bench? That might be where Falcao, Di Maria, Herrera, Daley Blind, Marcos Rojo and Luke Shaw are.

What?

I'd actually have Azpilicueta over Bertrand too, the man is amazingly good.

niallo27

Coutinho is a super little player. Maybe shouldn't have got in but not that far away as people are saying. If you watched him every week you would understand.

The Moldy Gowl

Harry Palmr wrote: »

So then Utd get one place and its the keeper.

Is there a bench? That might be where Falcao, Di Maria, Herrera, Daley Blind, Marcos Rojo and Luke Shaw are.

Liverpool only have 1 as well and it's dodgy???

pmasterson95

Raf32 wrote: »

Why did ya come in with an anti united post?

Hes a pool fan. They do that occasionally.

CSF

Agreed with the consensus here, Cahill and Coutinho the 2 that shouldn't be there.

spock.

I would have had Schneiderlin and Fabregas instead of Matic and Coutinho.
Cahill is a strange inclusion.

GavRedKing

Skylinehead wrote: »

Fonte for Cahill
Fabregas or Cazorla for Coutinho

Then you could quibble over Courtois/De Gea and Aguero/Costa but not much in it for those positions.

Aguero/Costa is close but i think de hea has won utd more points than courtois has for chelsea, so he probably deserves the nod on goal, just.

Gbear

Coutinho would be a shoe in for a young team of the year but he's simply been miles behind a couple of other, more established players.

His all round game is breathtaking but he's not quite there in terms of output.

niallo27

Raf32 wrote: »

Why did ya come in with an anti united post?

Weren't you on the wind up all day yesterday. Your in no position to talk.

MD1990

This is the reason Coutinho is included

the obsession with stats is why alot are againt his inclusion.Players who have played against him im sure were hugely impressed by him.Also he easily outperformed Fabregas in the 2 legs in January.
Along with Hazard & Sanchez he is the most entertaining footballer in the PL.

kfallon

Coutinho is class!

MD1990

Also should Mignolet been in instead of De Gea? He has more clean sheets.

Alfred Borden

niallo27 wrote: »

Weren't you on the wind up all day yesterday. Your in no position to talk.

by asking would Liverpool take a draw away from a home against a well drilling Pulis team? Im not gonna drag this thread off topic.

pmasterson95

MD1990 wrote: »

This is the reason Coutinho is included

the obsession with stats is why alot are againt his inclusion.Players who have played against him im sure were hugely impressed by him.Also he easily outperformed Fabregas in the 2 legs in January.
Along with Hazard & Sanchez he is the most entertaining footballer in the PL.

Ah here lad theres a youtube vid of Bebe that makes him look great. Vids arent worth a damn. Hes very very good but theres better than him.

irishfeen

kfallon wrote: »

Coutinho is class!

He is very good bit far from "Class" at this stage...

Lucas Hood

MD1990 wrote: »

Also should Mignolet been in instead of De Gea? He has more clean sheets.

Didn't you just say it's easy to be fooled by stats?

pmasterson95

MD1990 wrote: »

Also should Mignolet been in instead of De Gea? He has more clean sheets.

You just said stats dont matter. Pool fans hated Mig and he was woeful early in season and got dropped for Jones so no. Courtois would be the alternative

niallo27

Raf32 wrote: »

by asking would Liverpool take a draw away from a home against a well drilling Pulis team? Im not gonna drag this thread off topic.

Your right we wont but you know yourself kid.

hullaballoo

Coutinho has had a couple of undeniably good moments this season but that's all, just moments.

I'd have put a number of Liverpool players in ahead of him tbh.

Cahill is a farce. It can only be because he's English.

kfallon

hullaballoo wrote: »

Coutinho has had a couple of undeniably good moments this season but that's all, just moments.

I'd have put a number of Liverpool players in ahead of him tbh.

Cahill is a farce. It can only be because he's English.

Such as?

MD1990

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Didn't you just say it's easy to be fooled by stats?

pmasterson95 wrote: »

You just said stats dont matter. Pool fans hated Mig and he was woeful early in season and got dropped for Jones so no. Courtois would be the alternative

Yeah that shows u how stats can fool you. I was that as an example.

extra gravy

MD1990 wrote: »

the obsession with stats is why alot are againt his inclusion.

Horsesh1t. Goals and assists win games and the best players produce them consistently. Until Coutinho can do this, he can't be considered top class.

MD1990

extra gravy wrote: »

Horsesh1t. Goals and assists win games and the best players produce them consistently. Until Coutinho can do this, he can't be considered top class.

Luka Modric & Iniesta are only average so ?

Maestro84

hullaballoo wrote: »

Coutinho has had a couple of undeniably good moments this season but that's all, just moments.

I'd have put a number of Liverpool players in ahead of him tbh.

Cahill is a farce. It can only be because he's English.

Probably the same reason why Steven Gerrard has been in 8.

redzerdrog

Courtois should probably be in goal and I'd have aguero instead of Costa

No problem with borderline calls like coutinho and Cahill because I don't think they are in instead of anyone outstanding

Will I Amnt

I wouldn't argue Coutinho's inclusion too much, most of the others mentioned who might replace him have had their bad spells too, much of a muchness.

Cahill is a surprising inclusion and Matic, while a brilliant player, hasn't been all that impressive since early on but there's nobody else to challenge him for it.

My thoughts on the PFA team of the year:

Goalkeeper: De Gea.

United wouldn't be as high up in the table without him, he's had a purple patch but has come back down to a more normal standard of late. Courtois has been an 8/10 all season long, but de Gea has had more exceptional performances which make him pip it. Fabianski has been exceptional as well. But I agree with this decision.

LB: Bertrand

Yep, he's had a stellar season, you look at all the other sides, Glen Johnson, no, Shaw, injured all season, Azpi, consistent but not excellent, City? I don't even think Pellegrini rate their left side and Gibbs isn't great. Danny Rose can't defend. Baines has also been piss poor.

RB: Ivanovic.

Scored goals, has been terrible defensively for large parts of the season. There really is a dearth of talent in the league, Coleman has been quiet, Zabaleta has been too. Valencia is muck, and Bellerin has been excellent as a stand in but not better than Ivanovic.

CB: Terry / Cahill

Terry yes, Cahill arguable. Cahill has been left very exposed by Ivanovic all season long, still think he's a very good defender but not the 2nd best in the league this season. Smalling, Fonte and Koscielny could all take his place.

LM: Hazard

Best player in the league. Tadic probably be second for me.

RM: Sanchez

Yep. Sterling has been a close second though. Has carried Liverpool without any other attacking threat for long periods this season.

CM: Coutinho/Matic

Neither for me, Coutinho as a creative player has been overshadowed by players like Fabregas, Cazorla, Eriksen and Mata.

As for Matic, he's been very good, but the red card was very silly. I know Jedinak/Schneiderlein both have one also, but both have had very good seasons also. Coquelin on a half season has also looked stellar and could be in with a shout next season. I'd personally go with Fabregas and Schneiderlein.

CF: Kane/Costa

Hard to argue, Kane has been a player people have written off all season long, but considering he wasn't even a starter he's done so well. He'd have to be in the team.

As for Costa, really its a flip of a coin on who deserves it more, him or Aguero.

Nominal mentions:
Rooney, Henderson, Silva, Austin, Beharinho

Iused2likebusts

I'd have silva in there and I think Valencia had as good a season as Ivanovic at RB As did Clyne.

Drexel

Countinho stats are actually better then he has been I think. He goes missing for weeks and weeks and then has a flurry in a couple of games. Even in games where he scores / assists he can be missing for most of the game. Joke that he is in there.

Cahill I dunno what they were thinking

niallo27

extra gravy wrote: »

Horsesh1t. Goals and assists win games and the best players produce them consistently. Until Coutinho can do this, he can't be considered top class.

Would Matic have the best stats. Costa shouldn't be in the side either if it was on stats.

Will I Amnt

redzerdrog wrote: »

Courtois should probably be in goal and I'd have aguero instead of Costa

No problem with borderline calls like coutinho and Cahill because I don't think they are in instead of anyone outstanding

De Gea is a shoe-in. If Chelsea were worse and Courtois had to drag them through half a season then he could be considered. Whether he is better or not is irrelevant.

extra gravy

MD1990 wrote: »

Luka Modric & Iniesta are only average so ?

They're CMS, might be fairer if you'd compare him to other attacking midfielders.

Drexel

is there a shortage of quality strikers in the PL this year? Costa and Kane are very underwhelming I think but they are prob the right choices. Costa has a storming start but I think he hasnt been great in the last 3 months.

pmasterson95

[Deleted User] wrote: »

My thoughts on the PFA team of the year:

Goalkeeper: De Gea.

United wouldn't be as high up in the table without him, he's had a purple patch but has come back down to a more normal standard of late. Courtois has been an 8/10 all season long, but de Gea has had more exceptional performances which make him pip it. Fabianski has been exceptional as well. But I agree with this decision.

LB: Bertrand

Yep, he's had a stellar season, you look at all the other sides, Glen Johnson, no, Shaw, injured all season, Azpi, consistent but not excellent, City? I don't even think Pellegrini rate their left side and Gibbs isn't great. Danny Rose can't defend. Baines has also been piss poor.

RB: Ivanovic.

Scored goals, has been terrible defensively for large parts of the season. There really is a dearth of talent in the league, Coleman has been quiet, Zabaleta has been too. Valencia is muck, and Bellerin has been excellent as a stand in but not better than Ivanovic.

CB: Terry / Cahill

Terry yes, Cahill arguable. Cahill has been left very exposed by Ivanovic all season long, still think he's a very good defender but not the 2nd best in the league this season. Smalling, Fonte and Koscielny could all take his place.

LM: Hazard

Best player in the league. Tadic probably be second for me.

RM: Sanchez

Yep. Sterling has been a close second though. Has carried Liverpool without any other attacking threat for long periods this season.

CM: Coutinho/Matic

Neither for me, Coutinho as a creative player has been overshadowed by players like Fabregas, Cazorla, Eriksen and Mata.

As for Matic, he's been very good, but the red card was very silly. I know Jedinak/Schneiderlein both have one also, but both have had very good seasons also. Coquelin on a half season has also looked stellar and could be in with a shout next season. I'd personally go with Fabregas and Schneiderlein.

CF: Kane/Costa

Hard to argue, Kane has been a player people have written off all season long, but considering he wasn't even a starter he's done so well. He'd have to be in the team.

As for Costa, really its a flip of a coin on who deserves it more, him or Aguero.

Nominal mentions:
Rooney, Henderson, Silva, Austin, Beharinho

Forster, Clyne options for GK and RB

CSF

MD1990 wrote: »

Luka Modric & Iniesta are only average so ?

Nope, but they play a completely different role to Coutinho. Coutinho can only dream about being in that calibre of player. You're arguing the unarguable here.

titan18

Would have Clyne and Fonte in over Ivanovic and Cahill.

Will I Amnt

jonny666 wrote: »

is there a shortage of quality strikers in the PL this year? Costa and Kane are very underwhelming I think but they are prob the right choices. Costa has a storming start but I think he hasnt been great in the last 3 months.

Not a shortage, they just haven't been up to their expected quality.