PFA Team of the Year

MD1990

extra gravy wrote: »

They're CMS, might be fairer if you'd compare him to other attacking midfielders.

If u actually watched Coutinho u would see how deep he drops in games. He has played CM this season as well.

CSF

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Forster, Clyne options for GK and RB

Options yeah, but the right guys probably nabbed it ahead of them just about.

CSF

MD1990 wrote: »

If u actually watched Coutinho u would see how deep he drops in games. He has played CM this season as well.

But he is neither a pass master nor a ball winner, he is clearly most effective further forward where his first touch and dribbling can have greatest effect.

extra gravy

niallo27 wrote: »

Would Matic have the best stats. Costa shouldn't be in the side either if it was on stats.

Coutinho's role is to produce goals and assists, Matic's is not so why compare the two? Costa is only the leading goalscorer in the team about to be crowned champions, nope definitely shouldn't be in there.

pmasterson95

CSF wrote: »

Options yeah, but the right guys probably nabbed it ahead of them just about.

Defor for goalie but just when he was mention Fabianski and lack of right backs I just suggested those boys. Ivanovic and De Gea were right choices.

MD1990

CSF wrote: »

But he is neither a pass master nor a ball winner, he is clearly most effective further forward where his first touch and dribbling can have greatest effect.

Very underated part of his game. His tackling is actually very good.

Liamalone

Wow, can't believe Coutinho made that side ahead of Sigurdsson, Fabregas and Eriksen but to make a few. The rest is spot on apart from Cahill who is debatable

pmasterson95

MD1990 wrote: »

Very underated part of his game. His tackling is actually very good.

But not the best. This is for the best team of the year. Not the very good team of the year. Youre talking about the wrong class.

CSF

MD1990 wrote: »

Very underated part of his game. His tackling is actually very good.

He's not Matic, put it that way. Again, you're arguing the unarguable. Coutinho is not and never has been a ball winning midfielder

niallo27

extra gravy wrote: »

Coutinho's role is to produce goals and assists, Matic's is not so why compare the two? Costa is only the leading goalscorer in the team about to be crowned champions, nope definitely shouldn't be in there.

You said it was all about scoring goals. Playing for the champions should make that easier really. Aguero has scored more than him playing for a worse team so he really should be in the team.

adox

Aren't these voted for in February or something? May help put context into at least some of the selections.

Alfred Borden

This Coutinho fella seems to have it all :pac:

Ferris_Bueller

Don't think that team is too far off reallyt. Coutinho has had a very good season but I think Fabregas deserves to be in there ahead of him, not outrageous to have Coutinho in there though. Realistically it could just be the Chelsea starting eleven plus a few outstanding performers such as De Gea, Kane and Sanchez.

Ordinary man

If they were going to pick a token liverpool player i'd have expected it to be between skrtel, henderson or sterling

extra gravy

niallo27 wrote: »

You said it was all about scoring goals. Playing for the champions should make that easier really. Aguero has scored more than him playing for a worse team so he really should be in the team.

By that logic so, Sigurdsson has done more than Coutinho playing for a worse team so he should be in there too.

MD1990

CSF wrote: »

He's not Matic, put it that way. Again, you're arguing the unarguable. Coutinho is not and never has been a ball winning midfielder

Never said he was. But his all round game is outstanding & thats why he is in the team. He is like a Iniesta & Modric imo. Part of the reason why he doesn't have more assists is because we have had no striker all season.

Kirby

adox wrote: »

Aren't these voted for in February or something? May help put context into at least some of the selections.

The entire Chelsea squad voting for coutinho probably had something to do with it too.

Ed Winchester

Aguero should absolutely be in the team.
It's a nonsense that he's not.

Coutinho's inclusion is laughable. There's so many more worthy options.

Alfred Borden

extra gravy wrote: »

By that logic so, Sigurdsson has done more than Coutinho playing for a worse team so he should be in there too.

https://twitter.com/AlfiePrice_/status/592290041961013250


Chris Brunt must be in with a shout too!

Utopia Parkway

So this is basically a retread of the PFA nominations thread?

For what it's worth I think Cahill sticks out far more than Coutinho does. You could at least argue Coutinho's inclusion with a few others. I have no idea how Cahill got in.

pmasterson95

MD1990 wrote: »

Never said he was. But his all round game is outstanding & thats why he is in the team. He is like a Iniesta & Modric imo. Part of the reason why he doesn't have more assists is because we have had no striker all season.

Hes not the most outstanding midfielder in league better than him however you paint it dude

niallo27

extra gravy wrote: »

By that logic so, Sigurdsson has done more than Coutinho playing for a worse team so he should be in there too.

Yes you could put him in there. It was you who said it was about stats and scoring goals though not me.

MD1990

https://vine.co/v/OTtWEJjYFeT

Drexel

Kirby wrote: »

The entire Chelsea squad voting for coutinho probably had something to do with it too.

Whats this?

CSF

MD1990 wrote: »

Never said he was. But his all round game is outstanding & thats why he is in the team. He is like a Iniesta & Modric imo. Part of the reason why he doesn't have more assists is because we have had no striker all season.

Coutinho wishes he was an Iniesta or Modric.

Alfred Borden

MD1990 wrote: »

https://vine.co/v/OTtWEJjYFeT

I have changed my mind after seeing that. Coutinho > Fabregas.

Kirby

jonny666 wrote: »

Whats this?

Tactical block voting. like the eurovision. or survivor. :P Terry told them all who to vote for.

pmasterson95

MD1990 wrote: »

https://vine.co/v/OTtWEJjYFeT

If its just for individual moment and not the season then where the **** is Charlie Adam?

niallo27

CSF wrote: »

Coutinho wishes he was an Iniesta or Modric.

Of course he does. 99.9% of players wish they were that good.

Lucas Hood

If any Liverpool midfielders deserve to be in the team it's Henderson. He's turning into Gerrard.

rob316

As a Liverpool fan I find coutinho frustratingly inconsistent but he has improved a lot this season.

He has outrageous talent even when Suarez was there I said coutinho was the most skilful player we have.

A true exciting flair Brazilian to watch and if he can continue to improve he can be in the running for the main award next year. Another point about his output in comparison to others what he has had in front of him all season has been really poor.

He scored some big goals for us this season and his work rate has been excellent so I wouldn't be against his inclusion.

Alfred Borden

Gary Cahill is getting off fierce lightly here though. There must be at least 5 or 6 more suitable candidates. Fonte, Kos, Skrtel, Smalling, Williams and Alderweireld all had a better season for me.

rob316

Lucas Hood wrote: »

If any Liverpool midfielders deserve to be in the team it's Henderson. He's turning into Gerrard.

The Gerrard of today or 10 years ago?

He can go off with Gerrard if its the former.

Utopia Parkway

Lucas Hood wrote: »

If any Liverpool midfielders deserve to be in the team it's Henderson. He's turning into Gerrard.

He hasn't been as good as Coutinho. He gets more goals and assists but he's just not as influential to how the team plays overall.

Lucas Hood

rob316 wrote: »

The Gerrard of today or 10 years ago?

He can go off with Gerrard if its the former.

Gerrard of 10 years ago. Some of his goals and assists have been very Gerrardesque.

CSF

niallo27 wrote: »

Of course he does. 99.9% of players wish they were that good.

But I'm replying to someone who actually bizarrely said he was. I agree with you on that.

shano_88

Agree with the consensus. Coutinho and Cahill shouldn't be there.

Sigurdson, Cazorla, Silva, Eriksen and Fabregas have all had superior seasons to Coutinho.

Johner

Cahill should be nowhere near that team.

rob316

Lucas Hood wrote: »

Gerrard of 10 years ago. Some of his goals and assists have been very Gerrardesque.

He's a strong box to box midfielder and more disciplined but he will never have the attacking talent of Gerrard they are different type players.

Still he has come on leaps and bounds and I'm glad he has started to add output to his game.

Iused2likebusts

Kirby wrote: »

Tactical block voting. like the eurovision. or survivor. :P Terry told them all who to vote for.

There is no need or point in a tactical vote in the team of the year and it wouldn't really happen. Tactical voting for the actual pfa award is a different matter.

Utopia Parkway

shano_88 wrote: »

Agree with the consensus. Coutinho and Cahill shouldn't be there.

Sigurdson, Cazorla, Silva, Eriksen and Fabregas have all had superior seasons to Coutinho.

Silva and Fabregas I agree with (even though Fabregas' form has dipped as it often does after Christmas). The likes of Eriksen and Sigurdsson are very debatable. Like Coutinho they've had spells this season when they've been pretty quiet. Depends on preference really and Coutinho has been the best of thee three of those post-Christmas. Silva is probably the big one though. Been City's best player this season since Yaya decided to down tools.

Dozen Wicked Words

Raf32 wrote: »

Gary Cahill is getting off fierce lightly here though. There must be at least 5 or 6 more suitable candidates. Fonte, Kos, Skrtel, Smalling, Williams and Alderweireld all had a better season for me.

I thought it was pretty well universally agreed in this thread Cahill shouldn't be in it. Haven't read a single post giving him wholehearted support.

Alfred Borden

Dozen Wicked Words wrote: »

I thought it was pretty well universally agreed in this thread Cahill shouldn't be in it. Haven't read a single post giving him wholehearted support.

No but Coutinho is getting a roasting (deservedly). Cahill is even less deserving.

Dozen Wicked Words

Raf32 wrote: »

No but Coutinho is getting a roasting (deservedly). Cahill is even less deserving.

Ah I get ya. Yep, think Cahill is definitely strangest selection in that team.

Mickeroo

Raf32 wrote: »

No but Coutinho is getting a roasting (deservedly). Cahill is even less deserving.

People are defending Coutinho's inclusion, no one is defending Cahill which is why there's not been much discussion about him.

pmasterson95

Raf32 wrote: »

No but Coutinho is getting a roasting (deservedly). Cahill is even less deserving.

Thats only because no one is trying to claim Cahill is as great as Tiago Silva.

hullaballoo

kfallon wrote: »

Such as?

The first player to come to mind is Henderson. He's a very solid and reliable CM and he's more assists and goals that Coutinho.

Sterling would be in there ahead of him as well for me.

CSF

Mickeroo wrote: »

People are defending Coutinho's inclusion, no one is defending Cahill which is why there's not been much discussion about him.

This

Gbear

Coutinho would undoubtedly have better stats if the attack in front of him wasn't absolute dog ****.

If you dropped him into any of the top 4 sides playing the same position with the same number of games, he'd get at least twice as many assists.

But we can only go on what we see.

Paully D

Gbear wrote: »

Coutinho would undoubtedly have better stats if the attack in front of him wasn't absolute dog ****.

If you dropped him into any of the top 4 sides playing the same position with the same number of games, he'd get at least twice as many assists.

But we can only go on what we see.

Would he even get in to the Chelsea, Arsenal or Manchester City sides playing the same position? Each of those sides seem pretty set in that position.