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Curb Your Enthusiasm · 06-02-2019 7:25pm

Gamb!t wrote: »

More new routes to be announced.

Exciting!

Heading to Italy and France for a trip in a few months - Booked Nice for my return leg in April, €46 coming back - nice price to be fair!

daithi7 · 06-02-2019 7:31pm

https://www.corkairport.com/destinations/route-map

a thing of beauty isn't it!? Hard to imagine how you would graphic design a worse route map tbh. It's also not viewable on mobile. Pathetic, truly pathetic.

p,s, kindly pass this on to their (DAA) web developer or the management (DAA management who are responsible for Cork airport website that is)

p,p,s like they will give a hoot!?

Gamb!t · 06-02-2019 7:41pm

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

Link? Thanks

The manager of the airport posted it on LinkedIn.

Chris_5339762 · 06-02-2019 9:26pm

I vote for a massive increase in flights to Gatwick. AL do 5 from Dublin and Ryanair do 8, and I have seen it higher.

For Cork, AL do none and Ryanair do 1. Lets have more because I am not using Stansted.

Curb Your Enthusiasm · 06-02-2019 9:31pm

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

I vote for a massive increase in flights to Gatwick. AL do 5 from Dublin and Ryanair do 8, and I have seen it higher.

For Cork, AL do none and Ryanair do 1. Lets have more because I am not using Stansted.

Would be handy alright. Especially for the connections.

Padraig Mor · 06-02-2019 10:09pm

Chris_5339762 wrote: »

I vote for a massive increase in flights to Gatwick. AL do 5 from Dublin and Ryanair do 8, and I have seen it higher.

For Cork, AL do none and Ryanair do 1. Lets have more because I am not using Stansted.

In fairness, EI (and easyJet?) did try Gatwick from Cork, but FR drove them off the route before dropping frequency.

It wasnt me123 · 06-02-2019 10:41pm

Jamie2k9 wrote: »

Id say the marketing team in Cork wouldn’t agree. They have strong campaigns in Waterford for the new routes plus 9% passenger growth in Jan is incredible.

Not in Tipperary - we are less than an hour away - need much better promotion of routes and facilities.

It wasnt me123 · 06-02-2019 10:44pm

I'd like Cork to Birmingham please - AL did do it for a while but its been dropped. I do a lot of travelling to Birmingham for business, would be handy.

Edit - As pointed out to me, AL still do Cork/Bham - not sure why I went RA from Dublin, but probably price €50 vs €150

Padraig Mor · 06-02-2019 10:47pm

It wasnt me123 wrote: »

I'd like Cork to Birmingham please - AL did do it for a while but its been dropped. I do a lot of travelling to Birmingham for business, would be handy.

Has it? I'm off to climes foreign in April and was offered a routing via BHX but went elsewhere instead due to Brexit.

Curb Your Enthusiasm · 06-02-2019 10:59pm

It wasnt me123 wrote: »

I'd like Cork to Birmingham please - AL did do it for a while but its been dropped. I do a lot of travelling to Birmingham for business, would be handy.

Cork to Birmingham is still 2x daily with Aer Lingus.

It wasnt me123 · 06-02-2019 11:00pm

Padraig Mor wrote: »

Has it? I'm off to climes foreign in April and was offered a routing via BHX but went elsewhere instead due to Brexit.

You are right, I just checked. Now I'm wondering why I didn't go from Cork, possibly price - €50 vs €150.

.red. · 07-02-2019 4:01pm

It wasnt me123 wrote: »

You are right, I just checked. Now I'm wondering why I didn't go from Cork, possibly price - €50 vs €150.

If living in Cork you made a saving of €100, add in petrol or diesel, tolls, 5-7 hours driving(depending on times and where in cork you are) and that €100 doesn't seem so great. Unless there's at least 2 people travelling it doesn't make sense.

The air coach is about €25, and about a 6 hour round journey. You need a spin into and out of town as parking is too expensive.

For the extra €75 I'd rather fly from Cork. Land and arrive home 20mins later with a lot less hassle. Maybe I'm in the minority.

Cape Clear · 07-02-2019 4:19pm

.red. wrote: »

If living in Cork you made a saving of €100, add in petrol or diesel, tolls, 5-7 hours driving(depending on times and where in cork you are) and that €100 doesn't seem so great. Unless there's at least 2 people travelling it doesn't make sense.

The air coach is about €25, and about a 6 hour round journey. You need a spin into and out of town as parking is too expensive.

For the extra €75 I'd rather fly from Cork. Land and arrive home 20mins later with a lot less hassle. Maybe I'm in the minority.

Your point is well made different strokes for different folks. People tend to underestimate the value of their own time also. How much does a person spend on food,coffee etc waiting around for an aircoach or at motorway service stations.

It wasnt me123 · 07-02-2019 7:02pm

.red. wrote: »

If living in Cork ........

I live in Tipperary - sometimes cost is an issue plus I have family in dublin so two birds with one stone - though I much prefer Cork airport.

Curb Your Enthusiasm · 07-02-2019 7:07pm

Rumours from a contact at DUB that Ryanair are setting up a full time maintenance team at ORK. Possibly new routes from them soon?

Shn99 · 07-02-2019 7:09pm

Curb Your Enthusiasm wrote: »

Rumours from a person I know that Ryanair are setting up a full time maintenance team at ORK. Possibly new routes from them soon?

Maintenance team as in a hangar ect?

Shn99 · 07-02-2019 7:51pm

Curb Your Enthusiasm wrote: »

As far as I know, yes. Don't hold me to it but the source is fairly trustworthy.

Interesting, wonder where it would fit.

.red. · 07-02-2019 7:59pm

Shn99 wrote: »

Maintenance team as in a hangar ect?

There won't be a hangar.
There's only one above and Weston have it, a 737 wouldn't fit in anyway.

There's usually a maintenance guy there in the summer for the 2nd/3rd aircraft. He just does general maintenance tho. Anything more than that is done in Stansted where they just do an aircraft swap and send a different one back.

snotboogie · 13-02-2019 11:05am

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews//business/brian-gallagher-cork-airport-enters-its-fourth-year-of-sustained-growth-902682.html

Interesting article on the goals of the new business development manager at Cork. Short term goals are European Capitals, reinstating Eastern European routes and New York. He seems notably most downbeat on New York. He also mentions a bizarre long term goal of west coast routes, I assume this would require serious infrastructure upgrades.

beer enigma · 13-02-2019 12:13pm

snotboogie wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews//business/brian-gallagher-cork-airport-enters-its-fourth-year-of-sustained-growth-902682.html

Interesting article on the goals of the new business development manager at Cork. Short term goals are European Capitals, reinstating Eastern European routes and New York. He seems notably most downbeat on New York. He also mentions a bizarre long term goal of west coast routes, I assume this would require serious infrastructure upgrades.

He worked in a similar role in Dublin for quite a while and unfortunately I can't see any new routes that would take passengers away from DUB

daithi7 · 13-02-2019 3:03pm

Fyi
https://www.citylab.com/transportation/2012/05/airports-and-wealth-cities/855/

grogi · 13-02-2019 3:12pm

beer enigma wrote: »

He worked in a similar role in Dublin for quite a while and unfortunately I can't see any new routes that would take passengers away from DUB

He must have started in Dublin straight from Naíonra I guess...

beer enigma · 13-02-2019 4:04pm

grogi wrote: »

He must have started in Dublin straight from Naíonra I guess...

Looks a bit like that :pac: but he was three years at least in DUB in a similar role while I was there

opti76 · 13-02-2019 4:16pm

recently booked the family holiday and flights were 500 euro cheaper flying from dublin ... that the issue right there .. the DAA driving up the numbers in dublin to justify a new runway or terminal or whatever they want by screwing over the competition.

snotboogie · 14-02-2019 2:57pm

opti76 wrote: »

recently booked the family holiday and flights were 500 euro cheaper flying from dublin ... that the issue right there .. the DAA driving up the numbers in dublin to justify a new runway or terminal or whatever they want by screwing over the competition.

Dublin Airport is so far ahead, they cannot in any way feel threatened by any route or pricing in Cork. There are still great deals to be had out of Cork

marno21 · 14-02-2019 3:20pm

Dublin Airport carries more than 12x what Cork Airport carries. There is no equivalency between the two

These days Dublin Airport is competing with Heathrow/Amsterdam etc for connecting traffic, not with Cork or Shannon

daithi7 · 14-02-2019 6:00pm

snotboogie wrote: »

Dublin Airport is so far ahead, they cannot in any way feel threatened by any route or pricing in Cork. There are still great deals to be had out of Cork

Make no mistake about it Cork Airport is a potential competitor, albeit a much smaller one , but nonetheless a competitor all the same.

Worse, government policy U turned previously on making it independent, ~ 10 years ago. So the DAA are managing a smaller potential competitor, knowing that they're just another policy u turn to having this competitor fully competing for routes, traffic and passengers once again.

In between times, Cork Airport is between a rock(the DAA) and a hard place (a subsidised Shannon airport that can act like a budget airport due to a bequeathed commercial park yielding >€6m pa to its income). Hard lines.

Shn99 · 14-02-2019 6:27pm

daithi7 wrote: »

Make no mistake about it Cork Airport is a potential competitor, albeit a much smaller one , but nonetheless a competitor all the same.

Worse, government policy U turned previously on making it independent, ~ 10 years ago. So the DAA are managing a smaller potential competitor, knowing that they're just another policy u turn to having this competitor fully competing for routes, traffic and passengers once again.

In between times, Cork Airport is between a rock(the DAA) and a hard place (a subsidised Shannon airport that can act like a budget airport due to a bequeathed commercial park yielding >€6m pa to its income). Hard lines.

Shannon airport or Shannon Group isn’t a subsidized by the government, it’s a profitable company and the commercial park has an occupancy of around 90% .

hans aus dtschl · 14-02-2019 6:45pm

Shn99 wrote: »

Shannon airport or Shannon Group isn’t a subsidized by the government, it’s a profitable company and the commercial park has an occupancy of around 90% .

I think perhaps the post was intended differently than you may have read it.

I read it as "Shannon airport operations are subsidized by the profitability of the commercial park, which allows it to operate and compete as a low-budget/low-cost airport".

Masala · 14-02-2019 7:40pm

shannon is independent... like it wanted to be!!!

Am sure they not finding the grass as green as they expected it to be. I can't understand this fascination people have on wanting Cork to break away from the DAA. The last thing Cork want is to have Dublin as a serious competitor rather than an ally.

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