Is boards.ie a home for the middle class?

VinLieger

noway12345 wrote: »

Ok so a thread has been made on boards.ie that can only be described as perfect timing. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057421718

So it looks like I was slightly out but 80% of those who've voted are middle class. You can even see some of the people who denied boards.ie was a home for the middle class posting on that thread.

Middle class has very little to do with income, i know many people who if you met you would likely try to label as middle class but are currently unemployed and receiving the dole.

You really are determined to see everyone as being against you, are you from cork by any chance?

noway12345

VinLieger wrote: »

Well in your case even after admitting to being in the wrong you still insist you are a victim cus you got fined for breaking the law, thats essentially what it means where professional victims no matter the situation will always claim they are being hard done by

The common man would view that fine as extremely harsh. The middle class posters on boards.ie don't think it's harsh at all.

osarusan

It's funny when you go to a poster's profile and see that the most recent visit was from a C-Mod.

noway12345

VinLieger wrote: »

Middle class has very little to do with income, i know many people who if you met you would likely try to label as middle class but are currently unemployed and receiving the dole.

You really are determined to see everyone as being against you, are you from cork by any chance?

You posted in that thread!!!! And it was an anti-unemployed post. 80% of boards.ie have a middle class attitude according to the poll on that thread.

noway12345

osarusan wrote: »

It's funny when you go to a poster's profile and see that the most recent visit was from a C-Mod.

What's a C-mod?

noway12345

noway12345 wrote: »

You posted in that thread!!!! And it was an anti-unemployed post. 80% of boards.ie have a middle class attitude according to the poll on that thread.

63% of statistics posted on the internet are made up.

osarusan

noway12345 wrote: »

What's a C-mod?

It's all ahead of you I'd say.

VinLieger

noway12345 wrote: »

You posted in that thread!!!! And it was an anti-unemployed post. 80% of boards.ie have a middle class attitude according to the poll on that thread.

Not raising the dole is not a middle class opinion, simplifying it like that is incredible naive, people could be thinking economically, politically, socially or any number of reasons why they dont agree with raising the dole none of which are solely to do with being middle class

noway12345

Deleted User wrote: »

63% of statistics posted on the internet are made up.

76% of your post is true.

noway12345

osarusan wrote: »

It's all ahead of you I'd say.

What the hell are you talking about?

noway12345

VinLieger wrote: »

Not raising the dole is not a middle class opinion, simplifying it like that is incredible naive, people could be thinking economically, politically, socially or any number of reasons why they dont agree with raising the dole none of which are solely to do with being middle class

No, look at the attitude towards the unemployed that's posted in that thread. Extremely middle class.

ShowMeTheCash

noway12345 wrote: »

Look at the thread I just linked. Middle class attitude all over it!!!!

So if you think the dole should not be increased you are middle class?
This is getting more ridiculous by the second.

Again why do you think this is a middle class attitude?

Do you even know who the middle class are?

Penny Tration

noway12345 wrote: »

No, look at the attitude towards the unemployed that's posted in that thread. Extremely middle class.

So what's your problem with people who have more money than you?

Btw, I have more disposable income than you, and I work in a poorly paid, crap job and am working class.

noway12345

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

So if you think the dole should not be increased you are middle class?
This is getting more ridiculous by the second.

Again why do you think this is a middle class attitude?

Do you even know who the middle class are?

Read the thread, it's not that people don't want the dole raised, it's all about the attitude they have towards the unemployed.

noway12345

Jenny Thalia wrote: »

So what's your problem with people who have more money than you?

Btw, I have more disposable income than you, and I work in a poorly paid, crap job and am working class.

Did you read the thread I linked?

I don't have a problem with people earning more money than me, I have a problem with the middle class attitude some people have and it's a common attitude on boards.ie. I've proven this.

Mechanical Clocktail

noway12345 wrote: »

What the hell are you talking about?

It means he takes this place too seriously.

Eugene Norman

noway12345 wrote: »

Saying the working class spend all their money on drink and fags is a very boards.ie or I mean middle class thing to say.

I didn't say that. I was answering your claim that 200 a month disposable is middle class. And I did grow up in a council estate where people did drink, smoke and frequent bookies. That's disposable income.

noway12345

Mechanical Clocktail wrote: »

It means he takes this place too seriously.

Maybe, what's a cmod though? I want to know.

ShowMeTheCash

noway12345 wrote: »

Read the thread, it's not that people don't want the dole raised, it's all about the attitude they have towards the unemployed.

Yes I can read, I asked why you think this is a middle class attitude?

noway12345

Eugene Norman wrote: »

I didn't say that. I was answering your claim that 200 a month disposable is middle class. And I did grow up in a council estate where people did drink, smoke and frequent bookies. That's disposable income.

Everyone on the council estate?

noway12345

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

Yes I can read, I asked why you think this is a middle class attitude?

Obviously they're looking down on the unemployed.

ShowMeTheCash

noway12345 wrote: »

Obviously they're looking down on the unemployed.

I am going to ask again why you think this is a middle class attitude?

Why not a working class attitude?

noway12345

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

I am going to ask again why you think this is a middle class attitude?

Why not a working class attitude?

Because people with a working class attitude know that people can be unlucky and feel sorry for those that are unemployed.
The middle class attitude looks down on the unemployed as uneducated wasters who are just stealing their tax.
If you read the thread you would have seen that attitude all over it.

Hans Bricks

noway12345 wrote: »

Again taking the middle class view. Like the majority of posters on this thread have been. What's happening here? Oh uh, my point has been proven yet again!

You're getting quite flustered there. How do you know what kind of "class" I fit into exactly ? I don't and never really ascribed myself to one. I live in a very mixed area of West Dublin. I'd take a bet yourself and other posters here whining like pure victims about this oppressive middle class live in private housing / rented accommodation, have attained 3rd level education and have never really struggled financially.

Fuck me. Paul Murphy and Gino Kenny love people like you.

Harry Palmr

Would it be impolite to suggest Sir is essentially acting as an agent provocateur?

VinLieger

noway12345 wrote: »

Did you read the thread I linked?

I don't have a problem with people earning more money than me, I have a problem with the middle class attitude some people have and it's a common attitude on boards.ie. I've proven this.

You've really just proven some people have different opinions than you and then called them middle class

noway12345

Hans Bricks wrote: »

You're getting quite flustered there. How do you know what kind of "class" I fit into exactly ? I don't and never really ascribed myself to one. I live in a very mixed area of West Dublin. I'd take a bet yourself and other posters here whining like pure victims about this oppressive middle class live in private housing / rented accommodation, have attained 3rd level education and have never really struggled financially.

Fuck me. Paul Murphy and Gino Kenny love people like you.

Look at the middle class attitude all over that post.

noway12345

VinLieger wrote: »

You've really just proven some people have different opinions than you and then called them middle class

No, the thread that came up did so at a perfect time for me to prove my point. If it hadn't you could have just said what you just did and I'd have no comeback. The thread in question has nothing to do with me, it's about the unemployed. You can see clearly the awful attitude the majority of posters have towards those who're unfortunate enough to be unemployed.

Quin_Dub

noway12345 wrote: »

Did you read the thread I linked?

I don't have a problem with people earning more money than me, I have a problem with the middle class attitude some people have and it's a common attitude on boards.ie. I've proven this.

As has been repeatedly said - you've proven nothing other than your own bias..

In terms of the thread , I've read it .. If we filter out the obvious tongue in cheek posts (it is After Hours let's be fair) The overwhelming volume of responses fall into 3 main groups..

• Don't raise the dole as we can't afford it yet.
• Don't raise the dole as it could be a dis-incentive for some people to take up full-time employment
• Cut the rates for the "dole lifer" type - People that have been on the dole since long before any downturn

The first 2 categories are the most common and I fail utterly to see how either of them could be construed as "looking down on the unemployed" or "middle class attitude" as you seem determined to categorise everything.

The 3rd one, I can maybe see a view point that it's look down on the unemployed , but at that only a specific category of unemployed that to be frank are hard to defend for anyone...

Hans Bricks

noway12345 wrote: »

Look at the middle class attitude all over that post.

You're a pathetic individual if you're this obsessed with class. What age are you exactly ? As fact would have it, I'm currently unemployed until May where I'll be starting a job in the mid 20k region. I won't even fall within the median salary range of 30 - 35,000 k. How's that for "middle class" you complete dribbler ?

noway12345

Quin_Dub wrote: »

As has been repeatedly said - you've proven nothing other than your own bias..

In terms of the thread , I've read it .. If we filter out the obvious tongue in cheek posts (it is After Hours let's be fair) The overwhelming volume of responses fall into 3 main groups..

• Don't raise the dole as we can't afford it yet.
• Don't raise the dole as it could be a dis-incentive for some people to take up full-time employment
• Cut the rates for the "dole lifer" type - People that have been on the dole since long before any downturn

The first 2 categories are the most common and I fail utterly to see how either of them could be construed as "looking down on the unemployed" or "middle class attitude" as you seem determined to categorise everything.

The 3rd one, I can maybe see a view point that it's look down on the unemployed , but at that only a specific category of unemployed that to be frank are hard to defend for anyone...

So you want to cut out the comments that back up my view 100%?
80% don't want to see the dole raised. Some say it's because it will be a dis-incentive for people to go back to work. The obvious conclusion would be to raise minimum wage but somehow I think we'd get similar to 80% against that.

noway12345

Hans Bricks wrote: »

You're a pathetic individual if you're this obsessed with class. What age are you exactly ? As fact would have it, I'm currently unemployed until May where I'll be starting a job in the mid 20k region. I won't even fall within the median salary range of 30 - 35,000 k. How's that for "middle class" you complete dribbler ?

It's your attitude that's middle class, look at that comment even. Complete dribbler. Only the middle class would use that as an insult.

folamh

I think the propensity to use internet forums regularly has more to do with being accustomed to having technology in one's life, which happens to be linked to income but not necessarily so.

Eugene Norman

noway12345 wrote: »

Everyone on the council estate?

Lots. Also no doubt on middle class estates. The point is of course that 200 disposable isn't that much. And if people spend it on gyms so be it.

Penny Tration

noway12345 wrote: »

It's your attitude that's middle class, look at that comment even. Complete dribbler. Only the middle class would use that as an insult.

You very clearly haven't a clue what middle class is.

G_R

noway12345 wrote: »

It's your attitude that's middle class, look at that comment even. Complete dribbler. Only the middle class would use that as an insult.

Mod

Knock it off please.

noway12345

Eugene Norman wrote: »

Lots. Also no doubt on middle class estates. The point is of course that 200 disposable isn't that much. And if people spend it on gyms so be it.

200 is alot for many in Ireland.

noway12345

Jenny Thalia wrote: »

You very clearly haven't a clue what middle class is.

You clearly don't.

noway12345

Grand_Rajnah wrote: »

Mod

Knock it off please.

I didn't throw around any insults.

ShowMeTheCash

noway12345 wrote: »

Because people with a working class attitude know that people can be unlucky and feel sorry for those that are unemployed.
The middle class attitude looks down on the unemployed as uneducated wasters who are just stealing their tax.
If you read the thread you would have seen that attitude all over it.

This is getting a little bit embarrassing.

You are making assuptions around what you think the working class think, I suggest you stop thinking!

You them make assuptions around what you think the middle class think, again I suggest you stop thinking!

Also you do not really know what or who the middle class are, you have no clear definition, but you know how to speak for them...

Quin_Dub

noway12345 wrote: »

So you want to cut out the comments that back up my view 100%?
80% don't want to see the dole raised. Some say it's because it will be a dis-incentive for people to go back to work. The obvious conclusion would be to raise minimum wage but somehow I think we'd get similar to 80% against that.

No.. It's a thread in After hours , not Politics or Economy..

I'm excluding posts like

They do be havin' the sky tv and all Joe.

Yeah, jack it up to €500/week fuggit. But only for existing claimants. All new one's get aldi vouchers. Ah the lulz.

Sorry I mean "Bloody scroungers looking for a free lunch argh knackers something something I saw a poor person with a nice TV socialists"

Why...Because it's After Hours and people take the piss in this forum..it's what it's for

noway12345

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

This is getting a little bit embarrassing.

You are making assuptions around what you think the working class think, I suggest you stop thinking!

You them make assuptions around what you think the middle class think, again I suggest you stop thinking!

Also you do not really know what or who the middle class are, you have no clear definition, but you know how to speak for them...

I just use miidle class as a term because it's easy for people to understand. If you want to put a different name to the attitude that prevails boards.ie then go ahead. It doesn't change the fact that the attitude is there and it's clear to see.

ShowMeTheCash

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Would it be impolite to suggest Sir is essentially acting as an agent provocateur?

The same thought had occured as I troll back through these posts!

VinLieger

noway12345 wrote: »

I didn't throw around any insults.

Ooooh arguing with a mod, gutsy move, I like it

noway12345

Quin_Dub wrote: »

No.. It's a thread in After hours , not Politics or Economy..

I'm excluding posts like





Why...Because it's After Hours and people take the piss in this forum..it's what it's for

Sometimes people joke about what they truly believe. The overwhelming majority of posts are against the unemployed and more from a view that they take our tax, cut their dole.

Hans Bricks

noway12345 wrote: »

It's your attitude that's middle class, look at that comment even. Complete dribbler. Only the middle class would use that as an insult.

You're on another planet. You've made a complete tit out of yourself the entire thread. Care to answer a few of the simple questions put to you about what constitutes being middle class ?

noway12345

ShowMeTheCash wrote: »

The same thought had occured as I troll back through these posts!

So I'm a troll? Again this proves my point. You don't hear views like mine commonly on boards.ie because it's mostly those with a different attitude.

noway12345

VinLieger wrote: »

Ooooh arguing with a mod, gutsy move, I like it

I have been polite.

noway12345

Hans Bricks wrote: »

You're on another planet. You've made a complete tit out of yourself the entire thread. Care to answer a few of the simple questions put to you about what constitutes being middle class ?

Why no mod warning for you?

VinLieger

noway12345 wrote: »

Why no mod warning for you?

Your the one who started out arguing for legal grey areas, id say tit is kind of a 50 metres bus lane kind of insult