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Diabolical Customer Service - and €45 per Month for 0.1MB 'Broadband'
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29-04-2015 5:19pmHello. I'm paying Eircom €45 per month for the following download speeds:
Impressive, isn't it?
Last August, when eFibre became available in my area, I signed up. The engineer from KN Networks who installed the line told me that Eircom would contact me within a few days with a date for the broadband installation. A few weeks passed, with no contact from Eircom, so I phoned them - only to be told that my account had been cancelled because of some kind of problem with the eFibre cabinet.
The customer service representative told me that it was a temporary problem, and that if I signed up for the standard 'NGB' service, I would be automatically upgraded to eFibre within a matter of weeks. Foolishly, I believed him, and agreed to sign up to an 18-month contract. I know, I know... I was stupid. I had just cancelled my previous provider (Imagine Wimax - the speeds weren't great, but it was still well over 50 times faster than the crap I'm currently getting from Eircom. Their customer service was pretty good too. I miss them), and figured that eFibre would be worth waiting a few weeks for. Several people have since told me that you should never believe anything Eircom tell you when they're trying to lock you into a contract. I don't intend to make that mistake again.
A few months later, I had heard nothing, so I rang Eircom again, just to get an update (I think this was October or November). After being kept on hold for a long, long time, a customer service representative eventually told me that it wasn't yet available, but Eircom would be in contact with me soon.
I patiently waited. A few months on (January or February, I think), still no word... so I rang Eircom again. After being kept on hold for the obligatory long, long time, I eventually spoke to a customer service representative, who now told me that my house was actually too far from the cabinet, and that eFibre wouldn't be available to me. I find this kind of weird because my neighbours (on both sides) have eFibre. As my house is sandwiched right between theirs, I'm not sure how I could be too far from the exchange, when they aren't. Also, why was I not initially informed of this?
Obviously, I wasn't happy with this. I mean, you wouldn't be, would you? I asked if I could cancel the contract. I was told that this wouldn't be possible without breaching the terms of the contract and therefore being liable for an early cancellation fee. It was an eighteen month contract, and that was that. The only way I could extricate myself from the contract would be to file a complaint with Eircom. He then filled out the complaint form (well, that's what he said he was doing anyway... for all I know he could have been doodling, filing his nails, playing solitaire or scratching himself), and told me I'd hear from him again within ten days. That was around two months ago... I have heard nothing.
Having been blatantly misled on three separate occasions, by three different customer service representatives, I no longer have any appetite to engage in discussion with, or give any more of my money to, a company that clearly does not give a damn about its customers. I wish to cancel my contract, preferably immediately - and definitely without having to pay any early release fee. I am not prepared to continue paying €45 per month for dial-up speeds.
How can I do this? Preferably in the most hassle-free way possible. Thanks! :)0
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It is possible there is a fault with your line which is contributing to slow speeds, you should contact Eircom's faults team on 1890 260 260 for assistance and to see if that is an issue to be ruled out.0
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Sour Lemonz wrote: »It is possible there is a fault with your line which is contributing to slow speeds, you should contact Eircom's faults team on 1890 260 260 for assistance and to see if that is an issue to be ruled out.0
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Hello. I'm paying Eircom €45 per month for the following download speeds:
Impressive, isn't it?
Last August, when eFibre became available in my area, I signed up. The engineer from KN Networks who installed the line told me that Eircom would contact me within a few days with a date for the broadband installation. A few weeks passed, with no contact from Eircom, so I phoned them - only to be told that my account had been cancelled because of some kind of problem with the eFibre cabinet.
The customer service representative told me that it was a temporary problem, and that if I signed up for the standard 'NGB' service, I would be automatically upgraded to eFibre within a matter of weeks. Foolishly, I believed him, and agreed to sign up to an 18-month contract. I know, I know... I was stupid. I had just cancelled my previous provider (Imagine Wimax - the speeds weren't great, but it was still well over 50 times faster than the crap I'm currently getting from Eircom. Their customer service was pretty good too. I miss them), and figured that eFibre would be worth waiting a few weeks for. Several people have since told me that you should never believe anything Eircom tell you when they're trying to lock you into a contract. I don't intend to make that mistake again.
A few months later, I had heard nothing, so I rang Eircom again, just to get an update (I think this was October or November). After being kept on hold for a long, long time, a customer service representative eventually told me that it wasn't yet available, but Eircom would be in contact with me soon.
I patiently waited. A few months on (January or February, I think), still no word... so I rang Eircom again. After being kept on hold for the obligatory long, long time, I eventually spoke to a customer service representative, who now told me that my house was actually too far from the cabinet, and that eFibre wouldn't be available to me. I find this kind of weird because my neighbours (on both sides) have eFibre. As my house is sandwiched right between theirs, I'm not sure how I could be too far from the exchange, when they aren't. Also, why was I not initially informed of this?
Obviously, I wasn't happy with this. I mean, you wouldn't be, would you? I asked if I could cancel the contract. I was told that this wouldn't be possible without breaching the terms of the contract and therefore being liable for an early cancellation fee. It was an eighteen month contract, and that was that. The only way I could extricate myself from the contract would be to file a complaint with Eircom. He then filled out the complaint form (well, that's what he said he was doing anyway... for all I know he could have been doodling, filing his nails, playing solitaire or scratching himself), and told me I'd hear from him again within ten days. That was around two months ago... I have heard nothing.
Having been blatantly misled on three separate occasions, by three different customer service representatives, I no longer have any appetite to engage in discussion with, or give any more of my money to, a company that clearly does not give a damn about its customers. I wish to cancel my contract, preferably immediately - and definitely without having to pay any early release fee. I am not prepared to continue paying €45 per month for dial-up speeds.
How can I do this? Preferably in the most hassle-free way possible. Thanks! :)
to cancel your account you would have to call 1901 and go through to cancellations. However I am afraid you may get same response. If you do wish us to follow up on this for you, just PM me your details and we can have this issue investigated. I cannot promise that we can change any decision already taken. But we can make sure all factors are taken into account.
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Thanks Tony, PM sent.0
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This a a classic case for a formal complaint followed up by a call to comreg.
Check this out http://support.eircom.net/article/codeofpractice complain about the level pf service and ask for it to be corrected or to be allowed out of contract with no penalty. Just give them the required 10 working days then contact comreg and supply them with the same information.
You can contact eircom by email and cc it to consumerline@comreg.ie if you like but make sure you use the subject line Formal Complaint so it is obvious its a complaint.0 -
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Sour Lemonz wrote: »It is possible there is a fault with your line which is contributing to slow speeds, you should contact Eircom's faults team on 1890 260 260 for assistance and to see if that is an issue to be ruled out.0
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I'm sorry you have not heard anything back from your complaint yet, Tony is not available today - can you please PM me your eircom account number and I'll look in to this further please?
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Two weeks on... and no response.
Just to clarify what I'm looking for:
(a) An update on the complaint that I made earlier in the year.
and...
(b) Based on the very obvious outcome of that complaint, the cancellation of a contract that was mis-sold.
I think I've been very patient so far, but this is getting very silly.0 -
Next stage if comreg didn't help after a formal complaint according to Eircoms complaints procedure is a Small Claims Court case. It costs iirc €28 you can't claim for any expenses but you can claim all the money you have paid Eircom since you were miss-sold the service.0
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Next stage if comreg didn't help after a formal complaint according to Eircoms complaints procedure is a Small Claims Court case. It costs iirc €28 you can't claim for any expenses but you can claim all the money you have paid Eircom since you were miss-sold the service.
I find it really bizarre that I've been lied to over the phone by three separate reps, and then pretty much ignored by two different reps on here (I contacted Tony via PM on 30th April, and then Alan on 12th May - and have heard nothing since from either of them).
Rather than blaming the individuals concerned, I can only assume that treating customers like crap is company policy.0 -
It is easy for people to say go to small claim courts, write complaints etc etc but I guess you have better things to do with your time. Just tell them your broadband doesn't work and so you are not going to pay anymore. And wait even 20 years for them to fix it, once it doesn't cost you anything.
I did complain through comreg while ago and all they do is resend yoru complaint to the company and send you their answer. They have very limited authority to do anything.0 -
It is easy for people to say go to small claim courts, write complaints etc etc but I guess you have better things to do with your time. Just tell them your broadband doesn't work and so you are not going to pay anymore. And wait even 20 years for them to fix it, once it doesn't cost you anything.
I did complain through comreg while ago and all they do is resend yoru complaint to the company and send you their answer. They have very limited authority to do anything.0 -
It is easy for people to say go to small claim courts, write complaints etc etc but I guess you have better things to do with your time. Just tell them your broadband doesn't work and so you are not going to pay anymore. And wait even 20 years for them to fix it, once it doesn't cost you anything.
I did complain through comreg while ago and all they do is resend yoru complaint to the company and send you their answer. They have very limited authority to do anything.0 -
Next stage if comreg didn't help after a formal complaint according to Eircoms complaints procedure is a Small Claims Court case. It costs iirc €28 you can't claim for any expenses but you can claim all the money you have paid Eircom since you were miss-sold the service.
I find it really bizarre that I've been lied to over the phone by three separate reps, and then pretty much ignored by two different reps on here (I contacted Tony via PM on 30th April, and then Alan on 12th May - and have heard nothing since from either of them).
Rather than blaming the individuals concerned, I can only assume that treating customers like crap is company policy.
Having investigated this further there are two aspects to your broadband service I feel need clarifying.
At times (especially peak times) the speeds will be quite slower than off peak times because of congestion. Congestion is a result of the current status of your exchange - as the exchange itself has not been upgraded to NGB (next generation broadband) and this is one of the main reasons why speeds are advised in terms of 'up to' both in advertising and in eircoms existing terms & conditions.
Also, due to your lines distance from the exchange at Newtownmountkennedy the max speed your line can hold is up to between 1 & 2Mb - Unfortunately there is nothing that can be done to increase the speeds as a lines distance from the exchange cannot be shortened.
I do understand your concern with this Ray, and I do sincerely apologise for all the delays.
Thanks
Al0 -
eircom: Alan wrote: »Next stage if comreg didn't help after a formal complaint according to Eircoms complaints procedure is a Small Claims Court case. It costs iirc €28 you can't claim for any expenses but you can claim all the money you have paid Eircom since you were miss-sold the service.
I find it really bizarre that I've been lied to over the phone by three separate reps, and then pretty much ignored by two different reps on here (I contacted Tony via PM on 30th April, and then Alan on 12th May - and have heard nothing since from either of them).
Rather than blaming the individuals concerned, I can only assume that treating customers like crap is company policy.
Having investigated this further there are two aspects to your broadband service I feel need clarifying.
At times (especially peak times) the speeds will be quite slower than off peak times because of congestion. Congestion is a result of the current status of your exchange - as the exchange itself has not been upgraded to NGB (next generation broadband) and this is one of the main reasons why speeds are advised in terms of 'up to' both in advertising and in eircoms existing terms & conditions.
Also, due to your lines distance from the exchange at Newtownmountkennedy the max speed your line can hold is up to between 1 & 2Mb - Unfortunately there is nothing that can be done to increase the speeds as a lines distance from the exchange cannot be shortened.
I do understand your concern with this Ray, and I do sincerely apologise for all the delays.
Thanks
Al0 -
eircom: Alan wrote: »Next stage if comreg didn't help after a formal complaint according to Eircoms complaints procedure is a Small Claims Court case. It costs iirc €28 you can't claim for any expenses but you can claim all the money you have paid Eircom since you were miss-sold the service.
I find it really bizarre that I've been lied to over the phone by three separate reps, and then pretty much ignored by two different reps on here (I contacted Tony via PM on 30th April, and then Alan on 12th May - and have heard nothing since from either of them).
Rather than blaming the individuals concerned, I can only assume that treating customers like crap is company policy.
Having investigated this further there are two aspects to your broadband service I feel need clarifying.
At times (especially peak times) the speeds will be quite slower than off peak times because of congestion. Congestion is a result of the current status of your exchange - as the exchange itself has not been upgraded to NGB (next generation broadband) and this is one of the main reasons why speeds are advised in terms of 'up to' both in advertising and in eircoms existing terms & conditions.
Also, due to your lines distance from the exchange at Newtownmountkennedy the max speed your line can hold is up to between 1 & 2Mb - Unfortunately there is nothing that can be done to increase the speeds as a lines distance from the exchange cannot be shortened.
I do understand your concern with this Ray, and I do sincerely apologise for all the delays.
Thanks
Al
The "up to" get out could mean that a customer could be getting no service at all and Eircom could take his or her money.
Also could I point out that it is really not good enough to say the Exchange hasn't been upgraded as if that somehow justifies the lousy service. The exchange hasn't been upgraded because Eircom decided not to upgrade it. But Eircom are happy to take customer's money to whom a lousy service is being "provided".
Also Eircom do not appear to have addressed the commitment given to the customer as below?The customer service representative told me that it was a temporary problem, and that if I signed up for the standard 'NGB' service, I would be automatically upgraded to eFibre within a matter of weeks.0 -
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Hello. I'm paying Eircom €45 per month for the following download speeds:
Impressive, isn't it?
Last August, when eFibre became available in my area, I signed up. The engineer from KN Networks who installed the line told me that Eircom would contact me within a few days with a date for the broadband installation. A few weeks passed, with no contact from Eircom, so I phoned them - only to be told that my account had been cancelled because of some kind of problem with the eFibre cabinet.
The customer service representative told me that it was a temporary problem, and that if I signed up for the standard 'NGB' service, I would be automatically upgraded to eFibre within a matter of weeks. Foolishly, I believed him, and agreed to sign up to an 18-month contract. I know, I kno..................................................
How can I do this? Preferably in the most hassle-free way possible. Thanks! :)0 -
eircom: Alan wrote: »Next stage if comreg didn't help after a formal complaint according to Eircoms complaints procedure is a Small Claims Court case. It costs iirc €28 you can't claim for any expenses but you can claim all the money you have paid Eircom since you were miss-sold the service.
I find it really bizarre that I've been lied to over the phone by three separate reps, and then pretty much ignored by two different reps on here (I contacted Tony via PM on 30th April, and then Alan on 12th May - and have heard nothing since from either of them).
Rather than blaming the individuals concerned, I can only assume that treating customers like crap is company policy.
Having investigated this further there are two aspects to your broadband service I feel need clarifying.
At times (especially peak times) the speeds will be quite slower than off peak times because of congestion. Congestion is a result of the current status of your exchange - as the exchange itself has not been upgraded to NGB (next generation broadband) and this is one of the main reasons why speeds are advised in terms of 'up to' both in advertising and in eircoms existing terms & conditions.
Also, due to your lines distance from the exchange at Newtownmountkennedy the max speed your line can hold is up to between 1 & 2Mb - Unfortunately there is nothing that can be done to increase the speeds as a lines distance from the exchange cannot be shortened.
I do understand your concern with this Ray, and I do sincerely apologise for all the delays.
Thanks
Al
Just wondering. Sorry if I'm being really impatient, but it's a bit like getting blood from a stone.0 -
eircom: Alan wrote: »Next stage if comreg didn't help after a formal complaint according to Eircoms complaints procedure is a Small Claims Court case. It costs iirc €28 you can't claim for any expenses but you can claim all the money you have paid Eircom since you were miss-sold the service.
I find it really bizarre that I've been lied to over the phone by three separate reps, and then pretty much ignored by two different reps on here (I contacted Tony via PM on 30th April, and then Alan on 12th May - and have heard nothing since from either of them).
Rather than blaming the individuals concerned, I can only assume that treating customers like crap is company policy.
Having investigated this further there are two aspects to your broadband service I feel need clarifying.
At times (especially peak times) the speeds will be quite slower than off peak times because of congestion. Congestion is a result of the current status of your exchange - as the exchange itself has not been upgraded to NGB (next generation broadband) and this is one of the main reasons why speeds are advised in terms of 'up to' both in advertising and in eircoms existing terms & conditions.
Also, due to your lines distance from the exchange at Newtownmountkennedy the max speed your line can hold is up to between 1 & 2Mb - Unfortunately there is nothing that can be done to increase the speeds as a lines distance from the exchange cannot be shortened.
I do understand your concern with this Ray, and I do sincerely apologise for all the delays.
Thanks
Al
Just wondering. Sorry if I'm being really impatient, but it's a bit like getting blood from a stone.
Sincere apologies for the delays in responding.
I've looked in to this further and I see that there is no offical complaint on record. I understand you have already requested to open a complaint but somehow it was not opened. Unfortunately I cannot see why this has occurred but I do genuinely apologise for this.If you log a complaint online here https://www.eircom.net/logacomplaint.jsp it will deffinately be registered for investigation.
Thanks
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Hi eircom Al...
Your team or company you work for seem to be great at losing info and emails and complaints.
I emailed twice about my serious issues and nothing.
I sent a complaint to comreg and nothing so what is management doing in this joke of a service provider.
Op raym I feel for you.
Dub45 thank you for your help before but I have got nowhere.
I am still getting bills in the door and have honestly got to the point of just giving up.0 -
It is surprising that you did not get any response from Comreg - did you try contacting them by phone? You could also consider an old fashioned letter to the Eircom Chief Executive.0
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Hi Punisher & Dub45,
I went down the road of ComReg they couldn't do anything because Eircom had investigated & found in Eircom's favour, Hello, I also wrote to Eircom's CEO he did get someone down the line to write to us and believe it or not she gave her full name but it didn't change the outcome, The small claims court won't take it because the don't do contracts or debts,
The only thing that will work is go to a solicitor, if the dept is not owed then you do not have to pay it, The solicitor was the best investment I ever made, if you do not know a solicitor find one and ask him or her how much the will charge, I know you shouldn't have to do this but there is a problem with enforcement in some cases if you don't fit into the right category, Good Luck.0 -
eircom: Alan wrote: »eircom: Alan wrote: »Next stage if comreg didn't help after a formal complaint according to Eircoms complaints procedure is a Small Claims Court case. It costs iirc €28 you can't claim for any expenses but you can claim all the money you have paid Eircom since you were miss-sold the service.
I find it really bizarre that I've been lied to over the phone by three separate reps, and then pretty much ignored by two different reps on here (I contacted Tony via PM on 30th April, and then Alan on 12th May - and have heard nothing since from either of them).
Rather than blaming the individuals concerned, I can only assume that treating customers like crap is company policy.
Having investigated this further there are two aspects to your broadband service I feel need clarifying.
At times (especially peak times) the speeds will be quite slower than off peak times because of congestion. Congestion is a result of the current status of your exchange - as the exchange itself has not been upgraded to NGB (next generation broadband) and this is one of the main reasons why speeds are advised in terms of 'up to' both in advertising and in eircoms existing terms & conditions.
Also, due to your lines distance from the exchange at Newtownmountkennedy the max speed your line can hold is up to between 1 & 2Mb - Unfortunately there is nothing that can be done to increase the speeds as a lines distance from the exchange cannot be shortened.
I do understand your concern with this Ray, and I do sincerely apologise for all the delays.
Thanks
Al
Just wondering. Sorry if I'm being really impatient, but it's a bit like getting blood from a stone.
Sincere apologies for the delays in responding.
I've looked in to this further and I see that there is no offical complaint on record. I understand you have already requested to open a complaint but somehow it was not opened. Unfortunately I cannot see why this has occurred but I do genuinely apologise for this.If you log a complaint online here https://www.eircom.net/logacomplaint.jsp it will deffinately be registered for investigation.
Thanks
Al
I'm hoping I won't have to resort to Comreg or a solicitor, but if my complaint is somehow dismissed, will it be possible to acquire copies of the calls I made to customer service (presuming all calls are recorded)?0 -
It is surprising that you did not get any response from Comreg - did you try contacting them by phone? You could also consider an old fashioned letter to the Eircom Chief Executive.
I got an email off comreg stating they had forwarded on my complaint and got an answer from eircon stating they had tried to contact us the week previous.
Now as we all know by what we see happening to others they did in no way try to contact as I gave two numbers and received not 1 call or missed or a voice mail.
I did receive a letter eventually that did not answer anything about my issues or complaint.
The letter stated I would have to contact my bank as eircon could not return money already received.
Eircom took €200 then illegally took €468.88 off my visa card. I contacted my bank and as I had been messed about for so long by eircom that it fell out of the time period the bank could do a reverse transaction.
It is a disgrace and they are sending me bills for around €237 if I recall correctly.
One was higher by about €45 more but some of this charge was deducted but I am still receiving these bills.
I was disconnected 2maybe even 3 months now and it took since February to get this through to them.
We emailed and rang countless times especially phoning them.
I only ever got a correct answer and understanding off of 1 staff member the rest didn't know anything or couldn't help and 1 was shockingly aggressive telling me to pay my bills and why would I not pay for so long.
This was due to some fool putting down that somehow they had never ever been paid for the broadband we had received after 15 months.
Now what company would provide a service for this long if they had never got paid??????
joke of a service provider and they really should be ashamed of their digusting practices and customer care which honestly doesn't seem to exist.
I would hazard a guess its a bit like the I.T Crowd in there where they have a manager who thinks the internet is a black box in the corner.0 -
Thanks Alan. I've lodged the complaint.
I'm hoping I won't have to resort to Comreg or a solicitor, but if my complaint is somehow dismissed, will it be possible to acquire copies of the calls I made to customer service (presuming all calls are recorded)?
They would never give you any of that info sure their emails get lost seemingly all the time.0 -
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