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The "Peru Two" - what are they up to?

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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    No i want to see a criminal serve her time for the crime she committed.

    It doesn't make one bit of difference to your life. What is wrong with you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,804 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    noway12345 wrote: »
    No, the sentence will change according to laws in NI. Hopefully it wont be long till she's out.

    Yeah i can see there is no talking to you on this issue as you already know it all :rolleyes:


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    c_man wrote: »
    Yeah right. You keep repeating the same stuff over and over, it's almost as if... ah I geddit, they're bringing back some goodies for you when returning home! Don't worry I won't say anything. Just tell them to keep the 'weight' under that of a toddler, and they should be fine.

    :D So I'm a cokehead because I hope a young girl can get back to life as normal after a mistake?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    Yeah i can see there is no talking to you on this issue as you already know it all :rolleyes:

    No real talking to you either as you're only interested in seeing someone suffer for your own gratifacation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭BlatentCheek


    And if they break the agreement to make her finish her whole sentence then they will never release another prisoner again. IF she gets back she will serve the full sentence.

    I wonder if a similar "set her free" campaign will be launched to secure early release for her once she's serving time in NI. I wonder if it will get as positive a reception as the fairly mendacious one launched to get her out of Peru.

    Personally I felt sympathy for her, drugs criminalisation is a disaster and she's just one of its many victims. However I saw no reason to see hers as a special case and I found the implicit racism and sexism of the campaign supporting her to be deeply unsettling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,925 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    noway12345 wrote: »
    :D So I'm a cokehead because I hope a young girl can get back to life as normal after a mistake?

    Saying "your" instead of "you're" is a mistake.

    Smuggling drugs into Peru is not a mistake, its just drug smuggling.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    noway12345 wrote: »
    :D So I'm a cokehead because I hope a young girl can get back to life as normal after a mistake?

    Well I assume you don't dabble in your own supply. Basics man, basics.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,202 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Yeah i can see there is no talking to you on this issue as you already know it all :rolleyes:

    I was guessing relative/friend myself. Didn't someone who knew her post on the other thread that was going about this?

    Bottom line is she and the other one (whose name escapes me but I'm sure there'll be a book and tacky tabloid "news" that you can't get away from to remind me) are grown adults who - like so many other spoiled entitled types - thought they were "special" and tried to pull a scam (and international drug trafficking isn't exactly something you innocently fall into), got caught, and then came up with a whole story that she later admitted was false.

    They should serve their time in the country where they committed the crime according to their laws. It shouldn't be up to the (NI/UK) taxpayer to foot the bill for it.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    Saying "your" instead of "you're" is a mistake.

    Smuggling drugs into Peru is not a mistake, its just drug smuggling.

    She was young and silly, I'm sure she's matured. She didn't kill anyone let's not forget. She hasn't cost anyone billions of euro. She's not going to come round to all your houses and give your kids coke. It'll all be ok, I promise.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,977 ✭✭✭PandaPoo


    noway12345 wrote: »
    It doesn't make one bit of difference to your life. What is wrong with you?

    Most criminals won't make a difference to my life, doesn't mean I don't want them to serve their time


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    c_man wrote: »
    Well I assume you don't dabble in your own supply. Basics man, basics.

    No I'm a coke dealer. :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    I was guessing relative/friend myself. Didn't someone who knew her post on the other thread that was going about this?

    Bottom line is she and the other one (whose name escapes me but I'm sure there'll be a book and tacky tabloid "news" that you can't get away from to remind me) are grown adults who - like so many other spoiled entitled types - thought they were "special" and tried to pull a scam (and international drug trafficking isn't exactly something you innocently fall into), got caught, and then came up with a whole story that she later admitted was false.

    They should serve their time in the country where they committed the crime according to their laws. It shouldn't be up to the (NI/UK) taxpayer to foot the bill for it.

    Get a life, you're all like the old women peeking out from behind the curtain nosying in to other peoples business and then having a good gossip about it. Telling everyone how terrible the youngters are behaving. :D


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    PandaPoo wrote: »
    Most criminals won't make a difference to my life, doesn't mean I don't want them to serve their time

    She's been in prison long enough to learn her lesson. Let her return home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭BlatentCheek


    noway12345 wrote: »
    She's been in prison long enough to learn her lesson.

    And someone on the internet with their finger stuck on the smiley button is the person to tell the Peruvians exactly how long they are allowed imprison people who break their laws in their country?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,804 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr




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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    And someone on the internet with their finger stuck on the smiley button is the person to tell the Peruvians exactly how long they are allowed imprison people who break their laws in their country?

    No, I'm just delighted that it looks certain that she'll be returning to Ireland soon. It's really good news for most decent people. Those who wanted to see her suffer and raped in jail over there may not be happy but there's nothing you can do about people like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,925 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck



    They are poor innocent victims who have learned their lesson and should be released immediately!

    Wait, what do you mean they aren't fit young girls?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 726 ✭✭✭Goat the dote


    Normal life? Apart from drug dealers who's going to hire someone convicted of serious drug smuggling and not fond of the truth?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,925 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    noway12345 wrote: »
    What? I know nothing about those cases.

    FYP


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,695 ✭✭✭Hoop66


    Ruu wrote: »
    Eating vindaloo.


    With Disco Stu.


    Ooh!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭the_monkey


    noway12345 wrote: »
    What? Which other 'drug mules' have I shown sympathy for? She's a young girl with her whole life ahead of her. She's learned her leason. Back to a comfy jail in Ireland and then freedom soon enough hopefully.

    let's also give her 100k of tax payer money to get her started .. poor girl.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    My favourite bit of the whole story was the pic of two kids who dressed up as them for Halloween. One of them even had the scowl on the Scottish one down to a t.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,804 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    noway12345 wrote: »
    What? I know nothing about those cases.

    They are people caught smuggling drugs into Ireland, Why don't you care about them? Why are you not campaigning to have them sent back to their countries?


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 21,504 Mod ✭✭✭✭Agent Smith


    noway12345 wrote: »
    What ones in Indonesia? I haven't a clue what you're talking about.

    She's just waiting for the Peruvians to sign off and then she's coming home. It shouldn't be long. Great news for everyone except nasty people who want her to suffer despite knowing nothing about her.

    Heaven forbid someone who breaks the law be punished.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,870 ✭✭✭✭Generic Dreadhead


    noway12345 wrote: »
    What? I know nothing about those cases.

    If you insist of talking rubbish, at least do us all a favour and learn to use the multi quote tool to concentrate the nonsense in 1 place :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭BlatentCheek


    noway12345 wrote: »
    No, I'm just delighted that it looks certain that she'll be returning to Ireland soon. It's really good news for most decent people. Those who wanted to see her suffer and raped in jail over there may not be happy but there's nothing you can do about people like that.

    It's really good news for her family and friends certainly. Like I said I feel sympathy but I see no reason to consider hers a special case.

    Just out of interest why do you want to see this one person treated differently to everyone else caught smuggling large quantities of hard drugs?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    They are poor innocent victims who have learned their lesson and should be released immediately!

    Wait, what do you mean they aren't fit young girls?

    Ewwwwww. You people are a bit creepy.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    FYP

    I know you're a bit of a creep for sure.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    the_monkey wrote: »
    let's also give her 100k of tax payer money to get her started .. poor girl.

    No, let's not.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    They are people caught smuggling drugs into Ireland, Why don't you care about them? Why are you not campaigning to have them sent back to their countries?

    Maybe if I knew of their cases I would. What has that got to do with a young Irish girl who made a mistake?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    Heaven forbid someone who breaks the law be punished.

    She has been punished.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,804 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    noway12345 wrote: »
    Maybe if I knew of their cases I would. What has that got to do with a young Irish girl who made a mistake?

    It's her mistake let her pay the consequences.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    Cormac... wrote: »
    If you insist of talking rubbish, at least do us all a favour and learn to use the multi quote tool to concentrate the nonsense in 1 place :rolleyes:

    Why did you post that nonsense here. Taking up space with your rubbish. This could be the end of the world!!!!!!!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    It's really good news for her family and friends certainly. Like I said I feel sympathy but I see no reason to consider hers a special case.

    Just out of interest why do you want to see this one person treated differently to everyone else caught smuggling large quantities of hard drugs?

    Where have I given my opinion on anyone else who has spent time in prison even?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,328 ✭✭✭Magico Gonzalez


    One can only hope they have dropped the pathetic routine "we was duped" routine, hopefully they have managed to feel remorse and realise how vacuous their motives for the crime were.

    I was glad they got caught, drug smuggling is a huge issue in Latin America and the last thing people need there is two brainless cretins thinking they can make a quick buck to continue their empty "pretend-model" lifestyle.

    A good dose of reality was surely required and has hopefully been administered.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭BlatentCheek


    noway12345 wrote: »
    Where have I given my opinion on anyone else who has spent time in prison even?

    So what do you want? If not special treatment then an amnesty for everyone convicted of smuggling drugs?


  • Site Banned Posts: 2,922 ✭✭✭Egginacup


    I know she is a convicted drug smuggler, That's enough for me to want her to stay and finish her sentence.

    It's not really enough for you though is it? You're a bit of a sadist and want people to suffer. That much is fairly clear. You'd much prefer that they be held in barbaric, rat and disease infested conditions and be subjected to routine torture and violence than be incarcerated in more humane surroundings. If they were jailed in a clean cell with a bed and 3 meals a day you'd be beside yourself with rage exxagerating that they are living in palatial luxury. You'd make the mandatory reference to taxpayer expenditure too. If they were kept in abhorrent conditions you'd be thrilled and would sneer and call anyone who voiced opposition to their treatment a bleeding heart.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,523 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    They got a longer holiday than they expected.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,925 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Egginacup wrote: »
    It's not really enough for you though is it? You're a bit of a sadist and want people to suffer. That much is fairly clear. You'd much prefer that they be held in barbaric, rat and disease infested conditions and be subjected to routine torture and violence than be incarcerated in more humane surroundings. If they were jailed in a clean cell with a bed and 3 meals a day you'd be beside yourself with rage exxagerating that they are living in palatial luxury. You'd make the mandatory reference to taxpayer expenditure too. If they were kept in abhorrent conditions you'd be thrilled and would sneer and call anyone who voiced opposition to their treatment a bleeding heart.

    Won't somebody please think of the drug smugglers!!!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    It's her mistake let her pay the consequences.

    She has.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,804 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Egginacup wrote: »
    It's not really enough for you though is it? You're a bit of a sadist and want people to suffer. That much is fairly clear. You'd much prefer that they be held in barbaric, rat and disease infested conditions and be subjected to routine torture and violence than be incarcerated in more humane surroundings. If they were jailed in a clean cell with a bed and 3 meals a day you'd be beside yourself with rage exxagerating that they are living in palatial luxury. You'd make the mandatory reference to taxpayer expenditure too. If they were kept in abhorrent conditions you'd be thrilled and would sneer and call anyone who voiced opposition to their treatment a bleeding heart.


    Do you know how to avoid ending up in that situation?


    I don't want anyone to suffer, saying that i also wouldn't like to see a convicted criminal get special treatment.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    So what do you want? If not special treatment then an amnesty for everyone convicted of smuggling drugs?

    I like to take it case by case.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    Egginacup wrote: »
    It's not really enough for you though is it? You're a bit of a sadist and want people to suffer. That much is fairly clear. You'd much prefer that they be held in barbaric, rat and disease infested conditions and be subjected to routine torture and violence than be incarcerated in more humane surroundings. If they were jailed in a clean cell with a bed and 3 meals a day you'd be beside yourself with rage exxagerating that they are living in palatial luxury. You'd make the mandatory reference to taxpayer expenditure too. If they were kept in abhorrent conditions you'd be thrilled and would sneer and call anyone who voiced opposition to their treatment a bleeding heart.

    Some want to see her raped and tortured. Some sort of sick fantasy. There's something wrong with this sort of person. Something missing in their lives or in their heads. Disgusting human beings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,804 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    noway12345 wrote: »
    Some want to see her raped and tortured. Some sort of sick fantasy. There's something wrong with this sort of person. Something missing in their lives or in their heads. Disgusting human beings.

    She knew what she was doing.

    She knew what would happen if she got caught.

    She made a concious decision to break the law anyway.

    Also, Any evidence she has been tortured or raped?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭BlatentCheek


    noway12345 wrote: »
    I like to take it case by case.

    What makes you think that this case is special?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,798 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Egginacup wrote: »
    It's not really enough for you though is it? You're a bit of a sadist and want people to suffer. That much is fairly clear. You'd much prefer that they be held in barbaric, rat and disease infested conditions and be subjected to routine torture and violence than be incarcerated in more humane surroundings. If they were jailed in a clean cell with a bed and 3 meals a day you'd be beside yourself with rage exxagerating that they are living in palatial luxury. You'd make the mandatory reference to taxpayer expenditure too. If they were kept in abhorrent conditions you'd be thrilled and would sneer and call anyone who voiced opposition to their treatment a bleeding heart.

    what routine torture and violence have they been subjected to?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    She knew what she was doing.

    She knew what would happen if she got caught.

    She made a concious decision to break the law anyway.

    Also, Any evidence she has been tortured or raped?

    She didn't know what she was doing and didn't know what would happen if she got caught. No evidence that she has been raped and tortured, I was saying many sick people like those on this thread would like to hear of that.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    What makes you think that this case is special?

    Where did I say that?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭noway12345


    what routine torture and violence have they been subjected to?

    I think egginacup was saying that's what people on this thread hope has happened to her. Sick, twisted people.


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