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30-04-2015 3:55pm#1Hi,
So I'm thinking of maybe upgrading the Onkyo 607 in my cinema room. 6 years ago since I got it off you, seems like yesterday :P
Anyways, just wondering what recommendations you guys would have. I'm only at the 'thinking about it' stage yet!
Checked out a few different ones online. Some of the Onkyos having bother? Ideally would want something fairly future proof. The 607 as you know cant do 3D, I'm not that bothered myself but nieces and nephews would watch, so would be good to get that going. Was thinking HDMI 2.0 but to be honest by the time I'd get around to upgrading to a 4k projector (when there is more content) I'd probably end up upgrading again anyways so this isn't such a big deal. Want fairly new model but no crazy prices
Up to €700 maybe. Current speaker setup is the MA Radius HD.
Cheers!
Chris2
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Hi Chris_ie.Hi,
So I'm thinking of maybe upgrading the Onkyo 607 in my cinema room. 6 years ago since I got it off you, seems like yesterday :P
Anyways, just wondering what recommendations you guys would have. I'm only at the 'thinking about it' stage yet!
Checked out a few different ones online. Some of the Onkyos having bother? Ideally would want something fairly future proof. The 607 as you know cant do 3D, I'm not that bothered myself but nieces and nephews would watch, so would be good to get that going. Was thinking HDMI 2.0 but to be honest by the time I'd get around to upgrading to a 4k projector (when there is more content) I'd probably end up upgrading again anyways so this isn't such a big deal. Want fairly new model but no crazy prices Up to €700 maybe. Current speaker setup is the MA Radius HD.
Cheers!
Chris
Thanks for coming back to us and glad to hear the 607 is still running.
There are many many new features and extras available.
Here are some receivers to have a look over.
Yamaha RXV677 priced at 439.99 Euro (5 star review What HiFi).
http://euro.richersounds.ie/p-200624-rxv677.aspx
The Sony STRDN1050 priced at 569.99 Euro (What hiFi 5 star award winner).
http://euro.richersounds.ie/p-200552-strdn1050.aspx
Up next would be the bigger brother of the 677 the RXV777 coming in at 669.99 Euro
http://euro.richersounds.ie/p-200456-rxv777.aspx
Any of these would pair with your Radius with no problems.
Also just in case here is Onkyo's version the TXNR636 priced at 549.99 Euro
http://euro.richersounds.ie/p-12740-txnr636.aspx
Let me know what you think.
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Isn't the 3100 105w per channel? Thought this wouldn't be a huge difference (R90s max at 100w?). The improved Audyssey would be useful but something that would be done initially (possibly only once). No plans for height speakers yet and unsure if the dynamic volume and eq would be a big differnce.Richersounds.ie: Kenny wrote: »Hi Chris_ie.
The 3100 is rated at 145W per channel over the 95W of the 2100.
The 3100 features"
Featuring Audyssey's Gold suite of advanced DSP audio processing algorithms, the AVR-X3100W includes Audyssey MultEQ XT automatic room acoustic measurement and correction system, along with Audyssey Dynamic Volume and Audyssey Dynamic EQ. Audyssey DSX (Dynamic Surround Expansion) provides the ability to add front height or front wide speakers."
The 2100 Features"
[font=Arial, sans-serif]Featuring Audyssey's Silver suite of advanced DSP audio processing algorithms, the AVR-X2100W includes Audyssey MultEQ XT automatic room acoustic measurement and correction system, as well as Audyssey Dynamic Volume and Audyssey Dynamic EQ."[/font]
[font=Arial, sans-serif]Most receivers up around the 500 Euro plus will have as many extras as they add (Wireless,bluetooth etc....).[/font]
[font=Arial, sans-serif]Hope this helps a little.[/font]
Not trying to be awkard! Ha. Just trying to get an idea of real sound quality difference between the two 0 -
Hey Chris_ie.
Isn't the 3100 105w per channel? Thought this wouldn't be a huge difference (R90s max at 100w?). The improved Audyssey would be useful but something that would be done initially (possibly only once). No plans for height speakers yet and unsure if the dynamic volume and eq would be a big differnce.Richersounds.ie: Kenny wrote: »Hi Chris_ie.
The 3100 is rated at 145W per channel over the 95W of the 2100.
The 3100 features"
Featuring Audyssey's Gold suite of advanced DSP audio processing algorithms, the AVR-X3100W includes Audyssey MultEQ XT automatic room acoustic measurement and correction system, along with Audyssey Dynamic Volume and Audyssey Dynamic EQ. Audyssey DSX (Dynamic Surround Expansion) provides the ability to add front height or front wide speakers."
The 2100 Features"
[font=Arial, sans-serif]Featuring Audyssey's Silver suite of advanced DSP audio processing algorithms, the AVR-X2100W includes Audyssey MultEQ XT automatic room acoustic measurement and correction system, as well as Audyssey Dynamic Volume and Audyssey Dynamic EQ."[/font]
[font=Arial, sans-serif]Most receivers up around the 500 Euro plus will have as many extras as they add (Wireless,bluetooth etc....).[/font]
[font=Arial, sans-serif]Hope this helps a little.[/font]
Not trying to be awkard! Ha. Just trying to get an idea of real sound quality difference between the two
Checked the Denon website and they have the 3100 rated at 105W per channel. Not sure where I got the 145W.
As to the real difference in sound quality, I suppose the only way would be to try and get a listen to them.
I've not heard the 3100 in action unfortunately. I have heard the 2100 and the 4100. The 2100 sounds good and the 4100 is fantastic. We run the 4100 in our demo room for Dolby Atmos and its very very very good indeed.
In my opinion the Sony and the Yamaha versions sound better than the 2100 and the 3100 would be up another level again.
Monitor Audio's website gives the R90 a rating of max 100W.0 -
Cheers Kenny, I'll do some more reading up on them and get back youRichersounds.ie: Kenny wrote: »Hey Chris_ie.
Checked the Denon website and they have the 3100 rated at 105W per channel. Not sure where I got the 145W.
As to the real difference in sound quality, I suppose the only way would be to try and get a listen to them.
I've not heard the 3100 in action unfortunately. I have heard the 2100 and the 4100. The 2100 sounds good and the 4100 is fantastic. We run the 4100 in our demo room for Dolby Atmos and its very very very good indeed.
In my opinion the Sony and the Yamaha versions sound better than the 2100 and the 3100 would be up another level again.
Monitor Audio's website gives the R90 a rating of max 100W.
Thanks!
Chris.0 -
Hey Chris.
Cheers Kenny, I'll do some more reading up on them and get back youRichersounds.ie: Kenny wrote: »Hey Chris_ie.
Checked the Denon website and they have the 3100 rated at 105W per channel. Not sure where I got the 145W.
As to the real difference in sound quality, I suppose the only way would be to try and get a listen to them.
I've not heard the 3100 in action unfortunately. I have heard the 2100 and the 4100. The 2100 sounds good and the 4100 is fantastic. We run the 4100 in our demo room for Dolby Atmos and its very very very good indeed.
In my opinion the Sony and the Yamaha versions sound better than the 2100 and the 3100 would be up another level again.
Monitor Audio's website gives the R90 a rating of max 100W.
Thanks!
Chris.
No problem at all.
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Yeah I get ya, thats what I had planned originally, but my concern was the different distances from the listening positions. The left speaker would be further back than the right speaker as the wall the the left speaker will be on (wall with the door) is further forward than the left. So a top down view of the back wall would have the speakers (SP1 & SP2) like this :Richersounds.ie: Kenny wrote: »Hi Chris_ie.
I would wall mount both on the back wall one either side of the door but out enough from the wall at either side.
At home I have mine wall mounted at head height directly behind my seating area.
The shape of the BXFX throws the sound in different directions and for me this gave a better feel for surround sound.
With your door closed you should not get any blockage, door open may throw of the balance but I would say that while watching movies etc... the door would be closed. The door frame should not come in play as the BXFX would sit off the wall enough to pass this. With the shape of the them they suit wall mounting best as standing on a shelf they could be knocked over very easily.
When I mentioned about being to close to the cooler as the BXFX tweeters are angled. If placed right up beside the cooler then the audio would be dampened by firing at the cooler.
The 90's may be the best option for the job you require them to do. You could fit them tighter against the cooler as they would be firing forwards away from it.
.________SP1________
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Anyways, I'll stop wrecking your head about it now and see what I can figure out!
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AHHH!. Now is see what you mean.
Yeah I get ya, thats what I had planned originally, but my concern was the different distances from the listening positions. The left speaker would be further back than the right speaker as the wall the the left speaker will be on (wall with the door) is further forward than the left. So a top down view of the back wall would have the speakers (SP1 & SP2) like this :Richersounds.ie: Kenny wrote: »Hi Chris_ie.
I would wall mount both on the back wall one either side of the door but out enough from the wall at either side.
At home I have mine wall mounted at head height directly behind my seating area.
The shape of the BXFX throws the sound in different directions and for me this gave a better feel for surround sound.
With your door closed you should not get any blockage, door open may throw of the balance but I would say that while watching movies etc... the door would be closed. The door frame should not come in play as the BXFX would sit off the wall enough to pass this. With the shape of the them they suit wall mounting best as standing on a shelf they could be knocked over very easily.
When I mentioned about being to close to the cooler as the BXFX tweeters are angled. If placed right up beside the cooler then the audio would be dampened by firing at the cooler.
The 90's may be the best option for the job you require them to do. You could fit them tighter against the cooler as they would be firing forwards away from it.
.________SP1________
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|................................|_--Door--____SP2______
|.....................................................................|
Anyways, I'll stop wrecking your head about it now and see what I can figure out!
Cheers!
You could stick with the Radius 90's and set them on the shelf you are installing or you could maybe get a set of stands for the radius giving more flexibility for listening position. Or even only use one stand to bring the SP2 forward.
Let me know what you decided to run with :)0 -
Richersounds.ie: Kenny wrote: »AHHH!. Now is see what you mean.
You could stick with the Radius 90's and set them on the shelf you are installing or you could maybe get a set of stands for the radius giving more flexibility for listening position. Or even only use one stand to bring the SP2 forward.
Let me know what you decided to run with Yeah will do. All my current R90s are wall mounted but I do have 4 MA Radius stands that arent being used at the minute so I could experiment with placement. I'll keep an eye out here for any exdemo etc offers for the R90's. Out of curiousity how much is it for a pair of black R90's? And I assume the newer versions would still work with the stands? 0 -
Unfortunately the NEW Radius do not fit the old stands. We tried this out in store a while ago to confirm.Richersounds.ie: Kenny wrote: »AHHH!. Now is see what you mean.
You could stick with the Radius 90's and set them on the shelf you are installing or you could maybe get a set of stands for the radius giving more flexibility for listening position. Or even only use one stand to bring the SP2 forward.
Let me know what you decided to run with Yeah will do. All my current R90s are wall mounted but I do have 4 MA Radius stands that arent being used at the minute so I could experiment with placement. I'll keep an eye out here for any exdemo etc offers for the R90's. Out of curiousity how much is it for a pair of black R90's? And I assume the newer versions would still work with the stands?
The new Radius 90's are coming in at £279.95 (I'm sure We could work out a better price for you on a set, Maybe around £230 ;) )0 -
Ah crap, pity, would have been useful. If you ever hear of anyone looking for old stands give me a shout ;)If I was to get the new R90's I'm guessing it would be better to stick them at the front and use the existing for the rears then? The newer ones being better, although chances are I may not notice the difference.. Are the wall mounts the same? I'd also need to do some measuring as I need some more cable (Cambridge Audio UltraMicro). Will do some measuring later and I'll have a think about it :)Cheers.Richersounds.ie: Kenny wrote: »Unfortunately the NEW Radius do not fit the old stands. We tried this out in store a while ago to confirm.
The new Radius 90's are coming in at £279.95 (I'm sure We could work out a better price for you on a set, Maybe around £230
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Edit : Checked the site, the wall mounts are different, no big deal though.0 -
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Hey Chris_ie.
Ah crap, pity, would have been useful. If you ever hear of anyone looking for old stands give me a shout ;)If I was to get the new R90's I'm guessing it would be better to stick them at the front and use the existing for the rears then? The newer ones being better, although chances are I may not notice the difference.. Are the wall mounts the same? I'd also need to do some measuring as I need some more cable (Cambridge Audio UltraMicro). Will do some measuring later and I'll have a think about it :)Cheers.Richersounds.ie: Kenny wrote: »Unfortunately the NEW Radius do not fit the old stands. We tried this out in store a while ago to confirm.
The new Radius 90's are coming in at £279.95 (I'm sure We could work out a better price for you on a set, Maybe around £230 )
Edit : Checked the site, the wall mounts are different, no big deal though.
Yeah as you mentioned the wall mounts are also different on the new range.
I would put the new version in at the front and use the older ones for the rears.
You should notice a difference between the two sets. We had a full 5.1 system running of the new range in our demo room and they did sound fantastic.
As always any questions let me know.0
