The No Spoliers Draft Thread

phatkev

That_Guy wrote: »

NFL Network via Twitter:

WOW. The Jets have used SEVEN straight first round picks on defense.

and 4 of those have been d-line

That_Guy

That's all well and good Bears fans but just remember who's going to be trying to throw to him...

Paully D

"Thanks to the man upstairs"

"Lets go upstairs to Chris Mortenson"

:pac::pac::pac:

nasty_crash

Layne Scarce Art wrote: »

ya in fairness its not like he had nothing to throw to last year they had arguably the best receiving corp in the league its hard to think they will be better this year just because white will likely take time to develop even if he does become as good as marshall

Marshall, jeffrey, bennett and matt forte in the backfield - Geno Smith would be able to make something happen there! Absolutely agree - while he is younger than marshall id take marshall

Paully D

Kiper and Gruden going at it over RB's :pac:

Realt Dearg Sec

Doesn't take long for people to start bitching about Cutler. I don't like the pick but we need receiving options (they're looking to trade Bennett, forte is looking troublesome, and they have gotten rid of Marshall for better or worse). The awful performance last year was due to many things, but Cutler was low, low, low on that list.

Billy86

WTF are they talking about?

"The rushing leader from last year was not resigned. The rushing leader from the year before just got traded. The standout RB of his career has an uncertain future at his team. So don't worry, all this talk of the RB position not being viewed as being very important is nonsense."

Billy86

Paully D wrote: »

"Thanks to the man upstairs"

"Lets go upstairs to Chris Mortenson"

:pac::pac::pac:

Was really hoping he would have a "you're welcome, Kevin" type quip ready.

In Exile

Paully D wrote: »

Kiper and Gruden going at it over RB's :pac:

I'm enjoying it. It's good when you have some disagreement on the panel

That_Guy

Black suit, red collar. Methinks Beasley knew something.

Kylo Ren

Flowers for us?

Paully D

In Exile wrote: »

I'm enjoying it. It's good when you have some disagreement on the panel

Yeah, me too. Ray Lewis being back in Baltimore has worked out well for ESPN too as Louis Riddick is much better.

Oat23

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Doesn't take long for people to start bitching about Cutler. I don't like the pick but we need receiving options (they're looking to trade Bennett, forte is looking troublesome, and they have gotten rid of Marshall for better or worse). The awful performance last year was due to many things, but Cutler was low, low, low on that list.

It's easier to just bash Cutler. He's the QB so when an offense sucks, people who don't watch the games assume it's all the QB's fault. They don't see the playcalls, the injuries on the line or any of the other stuff.

Bit meh on the pick. Still wish we kept Marshall, could have went defense then.

Don't know what to think of the Martellus rumours. He's f*cking awesome. Give him a new deal.

Alfred Borden

He rose so quickly!

Kylo Ren

Keno wrote: »

Flowers for us?

Pow.

#InJerryWeTrust.

Paully D

Higgins will be ecstatic. Flowers was the one he wanted.

tripperman

Didn't think flowers go this early,

nasty_crash

i thought they would take peat - but also collins draft stock dropping helped flowers rise

mikemac1

Another defensive lineman for the Rams? Sure why not

adrian522

Who do you reckon will take Parker? No trades yet, must be some teams looking at moving up at this stage.

Hazys

Still no trades

Realt Dearg Sec

Oat23 wrote: »

It's easier to just bash Cutler. He's the QB so when an offense sucks, people who don't watch the games assume it's all the QB's fault. They don't see the playcalls, the injuries on the line or any of the other stuff.

Bit meh on the pick. Still wish we kept Marshall, could have went defense then.

Don't know what to think of the Martellus rumours. He's f*cking awesome. Give him a new deal.

Agree with every word you wrote there. Hope Marty sticks around, don't see us getting a replacement for him in this draft (and off topic but I think he is being underpaid on his current deal so we're throwing away a bargain)

nasty_crash

wow!!!

phatkev

RB back in the first round

In Exile

Wow! That's some climb up the boards too

Realt Dearg Sec

Gurley, wow.

adrian522

LOL @ Rams!

That_Guy

The guys on NFL Network talking about running backs and lo and behold one gets drafted.

Suspicious cat is suspicious.

UnitedIrishman

Wow. That is one big surprise.

Paully D

Love the pick to be honest. Bold and brave, but if his injury is okay then they've bagged them a serious RB.

I'd be very surprised if Parker makes it past the next two picks - Vikings and Browns.

Fenix

Go easy on me, I'm new, but what stops teams mid season, knowing they won't achieve what they need, from losing to ensure they get better value come draft day?

nasty_crash

parker for vikes or waynes?

Realt Dearg Sec

That_Guy wrote: »

The guys on NFL Network talking about running backs and lo and behold one gets drafted.

Suspicious cat is suspicious.

I don't mind them knowing inside stuff. It's the thing where they have an earpiece and hear the pick a few seconds early and tip it. If they know something, it actually takes some restraint to keep it as vague as they have done.

tripperman

Goodell is so slow with getting from one area to the other,

adrian522

Fenix wrote: »

Go easy on me, I'm new, but what stops teams mid season, knowing they won't achieve what they need, from losing to ensure they get better value come draft day?

Nothing at all but players are playing for their futures and don't want to tank a season and potentially lose their jobs.

UnitedIrishman

Fenix wrote: »

Go easy on me, I'm new, but what stops teams mid season, knowing they won't achieve what they need, from losing to ensure they get better value come draft day?

Jobs and contracts mainly. Performance related bonuses for players if they hit X, Y or Z target. And head coaches don't stick around too long if they win one game a season.

nasty_crash

Fenix wrote: »

Go easy on me, I'm new, but what stops teams mid season, knowing they won't achieve what they need, from losing to ensure they get better value come draft day?

nothing - in fact i think the hc before lovie smith at bucs got the sack for winning games late in the season when they were loosing most of the games

mikemac1

Fenix wrote: »

Go easy on me, I'm new, but what stops teams mid season, knowing they won't achieve what they need, from losing to ensure they get better value come draft day?

John Idzik built up 50 million in cap space and got sacked before he got to spend it

adrian522

Off topic but new 49ers alternate jersey...not sure really, looks like the "no contact" jersey

https://twitter.com/49ers/status/593943738746949632

Realt Dearg Sec

Fenix wrote: »

Go easy on me, I'm new, but what stops teams mid season, knowing they won't achieve what they need, from losing to ensure they get better value come draft day?

Often asked question, but the players and coaches are the ones who will lose their jobs so they have no incentive to lose mid season, they need to keep the wolf from the door. A player can be cut, or replaced by the high draft pick that comes in when they lose out. So they'll play hard all year.

Indianapolis fans might tell you different. Suck for Luck!

Paully D

Fenix wrote: »

Go easy on me, I'm new, but what stops teams mid season, knowing they won't achieve what they need, from losing to ensure they get better value come draft day?

It's a fine question to ask.

Mainly because there's big changes in a roster from season to season, especially a losing one. So players are trying to put together good tape to ensure they'll get another shot with their current or a different team and with that obviously comes money.

Also, coaches that lose lots of games don't tend to stick around for long so they're always going to be motivated to win for the same reasons.

mikemac1

Terence Newman will be 37 in September

Come on, take a corner. I don't think they should go receiver, they have talent there

phatkev

mikemac1 wrote: »

John Idzik built up 50 million in cap space and got sacked before he got to spend it

and I will be forever grateful:D

Billy86

Gurley looks more shaken and ecstatic than I've seen a player in a while there, looked pretty shook up almost!

nasty_crash

slightly disappointed with vikes not going for parker

Paully D

Good ****ing Christ the Browns are going to get Parker, aren't they?

nasty_crash

browns run up with the parker pick

phatkev

far to high to be picking Waynes

Paully D

I think Waynes has huge bust potential. I'd have gone for Peters all day long there if they were going for a CB, but easy for me to say when my job is not on the line I suppose given the red flags.

JaMarcusHustle

Could see the Browns nabbing Shelton here and DGB at 19.