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Help Gearing Question

  • 13-05-2015 8:56am
    #1
    Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭ Ricky Itchy Poltergeist


    Hi All,

    My sister bought a used Dawes Dutchess. She has a problem though in that it is way too easy to cycle, it has 7 gears and 1-5 are nearly unusable generating little movement.S he is only using 7 and 6 at the moment.
    Should I change the sprocket to a bigger one up front?

    I was thinking of moving up one tooth is that enough?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    Are there 2 chain rings on the front or just one? Changing one tooth will make absolutely no difference. If the first 5 gears are unusable as they're too low then you'd need to be changing to a chainring with maybe 7 or 8 extra teeth to leave a useable spread of gears.

    Edit: I just googled the spec, it has a 38T front chain ring and 14-28t cassette so yeah I can see how there would be a lot of 'easy' gears. Because it has only o e front chain ring your sort of limited on what range of cassettes you can use and anything lower than 28t would mean hills would be very difficult. I think best thing is just to use the higher gears and still have the easy gears for when they're needed.


  • Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭ Ricky Itchy Poltergeist


    Are there 2 chain rings on the front or just one? Changing one tooth will make absolutely no difference. If the first 5 gears are unusable as they're too low then you'd need to be changing to a chainring with maybe 7 or 8 extra teeth to leave a useable spread of gears.

    Edit: I just googled the spec, it has a 38T front chain ring and 14-28t cassette so yeah I can see how there would be a lot of 'easy' gears. Because it has only o e front chain ring your sort of limited on what range of cassettes you can use and anything lower than 28t would mean hills would be very difficult. I think best thing is just to use the higher gears and still have the easy gears for when they're needed.

    Thanks so much for the detailed reply. If I was to change the front ring instead of the casette would it give more "usable" gears across the range though?

    Edit, or could I put on a front derailleur and add another sprocket?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Thanks so much for the detailed reply. If I was to change the front ring instead of the casette would it give more "usable" gears across the range though?

    If it is a cassette as opposed to a freewheel, this 12-28 would help, but I'm guessing that it is more likely a freewheel. You could pick up a 13-25 or 13-28 7 speed freewheel from SJS here which would help slightly.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 15,778 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    Thanks so much for the detailed reply. If I was to change the front ring instead of the casette would it give more "usable" gears across the range though?

    Edit, or could I put on a front derailleur and add another sprocket?

    Bigger chain ring at the front would give you fewer 'easy' gears and more 'hard' ones. Something like a 42t would make everything ~10 'harder'.

    Front derailleur and 2nd ring would also require an additional shifter, cabling, bottom bracket, and crank set. The frame may possibly not support this, though most I've seen do.


  • Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭ Ricky Itchy Poltergeist


    smacl wrote: »
    If it is a cassette as opposed to a freewheel, this 12-28 would help, but I'm guessing that it is more likely a freewheel. You could pick up a 13-25 or 13-28 7 speed freewheel from SJS here which would help slightly.

    Thanks for that, are freewheels very rare. I was looking on chain reaction but could see any so il buy from the link you showed, would 13-25 or 13-28 be very similar or would one be preferred?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,256 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    Thanks for that, are freewheels very rare. I was looking on chain reaction but could see any so il buy from the link you showed, would 13-25 or 13-28 be very similar or would one be preferred?

    Do you know how to replace a freewheel? do you have the appropriate tools?
    You say the bike is a "used" Bike, how old is it? Its quite possible you'll have to replace the chain as well as the freewheel.


  • Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭ Ricky Itchy Poltergeist


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    Do you know how to replace a freewheel? do you have the appropriate tools?
    You say the bike is a "used" Bike, how old is it? Its quite possible you'll have to replace the chain as well as the freewheel.

    Yeah il grab a freewheel remover from a mate. Yeah I've no problem with the chain, the rear mech looks like it's taken some punishment so I'm going to replace that, the freewheel and chain. Bike is probably 3-5 years old I would say


  • Posts: 4,186 ✭✭✭ Ricky Itchy Poltergeist


    smacl wrote: »
    If it is a cassette as opposed to a freewheel, this 12-28 would help, but I'm guessing that it is more likely a freewheel. You could pick up a 13-25 or 13-28 7 speed freewheel from SJS here which would help slightly.

    So I ended up buying the 13-25, a new rear mech, new chain and new gear cable :eek: probably worth more than the bike


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