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!! Economics 2015 ... predictions, guesses and discussion.

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭DarraghF197


    Lc1569 wrote: »
    How difficult is it to get an a1 in Economics? I got one in the mocks and I was pretty delighted but I'm afraid the same thing won't happen on the day ðŸ˜

    Doing exam questions, it doesnt seem hard. I've written notes that cover pretty much everything that can come up in the sections I'm covering. I don't expect to be caught majorly, unless they decide to mix sections.

    Apparently it has like a 2.7% A1 rate. I got an A1 as well in the mocks, lost marks for idk what reason, but I expect one again also.

    The stats are worrying, but put them aside! There are a lot of people who are doing Economics who would not be aiming for high points, so maybe that's the reason for the low percentage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5 Lc1569


    Doing exam questions, it doesnt seem hard. I've written notes that cover pretty much everything that can come up in the sections I'm covering. I don't expect to be caught majorly, unless they decide to mix sections.

    Apparently it has like a 2.7% A1 rate. I got an A1 as well in the mocks, lost marks for idk what reason, but I expect one again also.

    The stats are worrying, but put them aside! There are a lot of people who are doing Economics who would not be aiming for high points, so maybe that's the reason for the low percentage.

    I do that as well! i was always afraid I wasn't covering enough though our teacher has never given us notes, would it be ok to cover 3 macro chapters like trade national income and tax and all of micro? I've don't every single short question and I correct them and learn them so I know how to do them for again, or should i learn 4? hope it's a nice paper on the day, really want an A!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 71 ✭✭expiiplus1


    I'm kind of hoping the paper on the day is very hard. For simple papers they apparently deduct marks for the most stupid reasons conceivable. I know at least one person who wrote the marking scheme almost word for word and still only got an A2.


  • Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭RoRo979


    Lc1569 wrote: »
    I do that as well! i was always afraid I wasn't covering enough though our teacher has never given us notes, would it be ok to cover 3 macro chapters like trade national income and tax and all of micro? I've don't every single short question and I correct them and learn them so I know how to do them for again, or should i learn 4? hope it's a nice paper on the day, really want an A!

    Your more or less there, If its an a1 i would reccomend economic thought,inflation and money and banking aswell.

    Anyone have a list of stats that we could use for the exam, I/We would be very grateful if you could stick them up.

    0.3% deflation
    9.8% unemployment
    3,425m BOP surplus

    thats what i have


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭DarraghF197


    RoRo979 wrote: »
    Your more or less there, If its an a1 i would reccomend economic thought,inflation and money and banking aswell.

    Anyone have a list of stats that we could use for the exam, I/We would be very grateful if you could stick them up.

    0.3% deflation
    9.8% unemployment
    3,425m BOP surplus

    thats what i have

    Do you really think we need to cover that much chapters for an A1? I had only covered the Micro section in the mocks and got one.

    Usually a full question will come up on International Trade and National Income. Last year LDC's were mixed with Trade which means Trade is likely to come up on its own. As well as that, it's quite likely to see four Micro sections. I'd say I'd have plenty covered with Micro, national Income and International trade, with Economists and functions of World Banks etc.

    I can put up National Income and Capital account stats in a while. Still don't see any major need for them only to look smart :P


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 621 ✭✭✭if832uspx4eogt


    I have a feeling we're gonna get a full Supply question with maybe Elasticity part (c), then a full Costs question.


  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭Chicharito11


    Okay, I'm struggling here, the next 5 days for me are going to consist of me cramming Economics but I have no idea what to prioritise and ignore. What is everyone else focusing on? And what chapters are people just ignoring and/or glancing over?


  • Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭RoRo979


    Do you really think we need to cover that much chapters for an A1? I had only covered the Micro section in the mocks and got one.

    Usually a full question will come up on International Trade and National Income. Last year LDC's were mixed with Trade which means Trade is likely to come up on its own. As well as that, it's quite likely to see four Micro sections. I'd say I'd have plenty covered with Micro, national Income and International trade, with Economists and functions of World Banks etc.

    I can put up National Income and Capital account stats in a while. Still don't see any major need for them only to look smart :P

    National income is said to be joined with inflation this year. It has been linked with economic growth in the past

    International trade could be alone however it is a small eenough chapter, maybe economic though part c.

    Money and banking is just a safety. If a1 is wanted youd want to be confident that the questions you picked you know you have them right. If a weird one comes up you at least have a choice of another

    I second a full question on costs this year.


  • Registered Users Posts: 503 ✭✭✭Kat97


    Quick question - > What's the difference between a limited capacity supply curve and a fixed supply curve?


  • Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭RoRo979


    Kat97 wrote: »
    Quick question - > What's the difference between a limited capacity supply curve and a fixed supply curve?

    fixed supply - regardless of price same quantity can only be sold e.g concert tickets
    limited capacity - can only supply up to a certain amount then the price doesnt matter e.g fisherman selling his fish. The graph sare the most important thing


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  • Registered Users Posts: 503 ✭✭✭Kat97


    RoRo979 wrote: »
    fixed supply - regardless of price same quantity can only be sold e.g concert tickets
    limited capacity - can only supply up to a certain amount then the price doesnt matter e.g fisherman selling his fish. The graph sare the most important thing

    Thank you! :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭DarraghF197


    RoRo979 wrote: »
    National income is said to be joined with inflation this year. It has been linked with economic growth in the past

    International trade could be alone however it is a small eenough chapter, maybe economic though part c.

    Money and banking is just a safety. If a1 is wanted youd want to be confident that the questions you picked you know you have them right. If a weird one comes up you at least have a choice of another

    I second a full question on costs this year.

    I have the consequences of National Income prepared anyways. Maybe I might read over Inflation, but I've so much to do and ive never covered it. Seems pretty easy though, maybe just learn a few definitions and I'd probably be able to make up any consequence/factors affecting questions on Inflation on the day.

    For International Trade, there could be a good bit. If it doesn't appear in Money and Banking, QE could easily make an appearance there. Then you have the factors affecting the value of the Euro and the consequences of a devaluation of the Euro. All very topical.

    Costs do look very likely this year, which means that there'll likely be four Micro quesyions. Which could also mean no Money and Banking, as I think that's what usually replaces it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 206 ✭✭examstress


    I was just wondering when a question is 25 marks and 5 are required, if I give 6/7 and one of them happens to be wrong what happens? And also by giving an extra point would that mean that you get marked on your best ones ? sorry this is probably stupid but I wasn't sure ! ���� thanks !


  • Registered Users Posts: 503 ✭✭✭Kat97


    Was just wondering if anyone could please explain to me how to do this question. I have never been able to figure out how to calculate the terms of trade!

    http://pasteboard.co/1aKKKM8q.png


    Q7(a) 2012 HL

    Edit: Thank you :p


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭DarraghF197


    RoRo979 wrote: »
    National income is said to be joined with inflation this year. It has been linked with economic growth in the past

    International trade could be alone however it is a small eenough chapter, maybe economic though part c.

    Money and banking is just a safety. If a1 is wanted youd want to be confident that the questions you picked you know you have them right. If a weird one comes up you at least have a choice of another

    I second a full question on costs this year.

    I'm just looking though the inflation chapter now - very short chapter! I was surprised to see it had the consequences of an increase in the supply of money, I had searched trough countless questions looking for a marking scheme on that!

    Also, I noticed it had the negative effects on Inflation only. I'm just wondering, that would more likely come up rather than the effects of deflation, would it? Considering prices should start increasing a lot in the near future.


  • Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭RoRo979


    I'm just looking though the inflation chapter now - very short chapter! I was surprised to see it had the consequences of an increase in the supply of money, I had searched trough countless questions looking for a marking scheme on that!

    Also, I noticed it had the negative effects on Inflation only. I'm just wondering, that would more likely come up rather than the effects of deflation, would it? Considering prices should start increasing a lot in the near future.

    all I have in terms of deflation is:

    causes:
    over supply relative to demand
    Sudden drop in demand
    More exports than imports

    Resuls:
    Increase in purchasing power
    Deflationary spiral
    Increase international competitiveness
    Those on fixed income gain:

    anything to add?
    Was just wondering if anyone could please explain to me how to do this question. I have never been able to figure out how to calculate the terms of trade!

    uk is 4x better at producing food than clothing
    Chine is 3x better at producing food than clothing
    therefore uk should fully concentrate on food

    Uk now produces 80 food
    china now produces 40 clothing

    UK food/clothing = 40/10 = 4
    China food/clothing = 60/20 = 3

    UK clothing/food = 10/40 = .25
    china clothing/food = 20/60 = .333

    therefore 1 unit of clothing should cost 3-4 units of food
    1 unit of food should cost .25 - .33 units of clothes
    I can put up National Income and Capital account stats in a while. Still don't see any major need for them only to look smart

    after a quick look have been asked twice for current inflaiton figure and once for current unemployment figure. Throwing away marks imo if you dont have them


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭DarraghF197


    Thanks for those points, Roro. Another effect on deflation would be the encouragement of savings, I suppose.

    Also, just thinking generally about the economy, one could say that there will be a lack of demand for capital goods such as housing.

    Yeah sorry, I forgot to give the stats I have lol. Maybe I just haven't looked at the questions in which they do come up. I've literally only looked at National Income and International Trade, with the inclusion of inflation now. So, maybe they come up in order questions.

    Anyways:

    Balance of Payments Capital Account in 2014 was €135 million. I assume positive...

    GDP at Factor Cost: €156831 million
    GDP at Market Prices: €181330 million increase of 4.8%
    GNP at market prices: €153485 million. Increase of 5.2%.


  • Registered Users Posts: 503 ✭✭✭Kat97


    RoRo979 wrote: »
    all I have in terms of deflation is:

    causes:
    over supply relative to demand
    Sudden drop in demand
    More exports than imports

    Resuls:
    Increase in purchasing power
    Deflationary spiral
    Increase international competitiveness
    Those on fixed income gain:

    anything to add?


    uk is 4x better at producing food than clothing
    Chine is 3x better at producing food than clothing
    therefore uk should fully concentrate on food

    Uk now produces 80 food
    china now produces 40 clothing

    UK food/clothing = 40/10 = 4
    China food/clothing = 60/20 = 3

    UK clothing/food = 10/40 = .25
    china clothing/food = 20/60 = .333

    therefore 1 unit of clothing should cost 3-4 units of food
    1 unit of food should cost .25 - .33 units of clothes



    after a quick look have been asked twice for current inflaiton figure and once for current unemployment figure. Throwing away marks imo if you dont have them


    Thanks a mil! Helped a lot! :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭RoRo979


    Kat97 wrote: »
    Thanks a mil! Helped a lot! :D

    just to ensure you fully understand. Terms of trade only applies on the original amount.

    For comparative advantage thats when you do the Uk 4x better, chine 3x better all that stuff. If asked to say how everyone benefits you do.

    1) clothing was 100 now 80 = down 20%
    2) food was 30 now 40 = up 33.33%
    3) therefore all countries benefit from international trade as overall output has increased.
    alance of Payments Capital Account in 2014 was €135 million. I assume positive...

    I got 3435 million?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭DarraghF197


    It's 135 million on CSO. Just noticed there that I have a different current account balance than you also...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭RoRo979


    It's 135 million on CSO. Just noticed there that I have a different current account balance than you also...

    http://cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/er/gei/goodsexportsandimportsmarch2015/

    most recent report on most recent month.


  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭Chicharito11


    expiiplus1 wrote: »
    I'm kind of hoping the paper on the day is very hard. For simple papers they apparently deduct marks for the most stupid reasons conceivable. I know at least one person who wrote the marking scheme almost word for word and still only got an A2.

    Anyone? I'm desperate!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭DarraghF197


    RoRo979 wrote: »

    Should we be knowing the most recent month or the 2014 figure? Lol I'm so clueless for what to use!


  • Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭RoRo979


    Anyone? I'm desperate!

    indeed if the whole country does well, thats why you write as much as possible to prevent that. Ensure key buzz words and back up with relevant up-to-date statistics. I wouldnt worry about it at all, there nothing we can do about it.
    Should we be knowing the most recent month or the 2014 figure? Lol I'm so clueless for what to use!

    honestly not a clue, i think both are accepted. Looked at the marking scheme for a year when it asked and it accepted 2 different answers for it. I just thought if they say current, saying the most recent month would be more valid than year before


  • Registered Users Posts: 48 leavingcert15


    Anyone? I'm desperate!

    Demand since supply came up last year,
    Elasticity
    perfect/monopoly
    Cost
    Eneterprise/capital
    Trade
    National income
    Readimg over
    Inflation, money and banking, unemployment, labour, oligopoly
    There the main ones I think


  • Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭RoRo979


    have the mercantilists, physiocrats, classical,neo-classical,marxists, monetarists or supplu siders ever came up? or is it just people that come up?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,307 ✭✭✭DarraghF197


    RoRo979 wrote: »
    have the mercantilists, physiocrats, classical,neo-classical,marxists, monetarists or supplu siders ever came up? or is it just people that come up?

    I've seen then appear before. However I think I might have seen them in a mock paper rather than an Leaving Cert paper. It was something like: give three differences between Marxists and something else.


  • Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭RoRo979


    I've seen then appear before. However I think I might have seen them in a mock paper rather than an Leaving Cert paper. It was something like: give three differences between Marxists and something else.

    Have malthus, Say, Ricardo,Keynes, Marxism, marshall, friedman and smith. Should get me by :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 90 ✭✭Chicharito11


    Demand since supply came up last year,
    Elasticity
    perfect/monopoly
    Cost
    Eneterprise/capital
    Trade
    National income
    Readimg over
    Inflation, money and banking, unemployment, labour, oligopoly
    There the main ones I think
    Much appreciated


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  • Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭IrishLoriii


    How do you guys study for this?? For some reason its the only subject I cannot
    study for like I do exam papers but its such a waste Im v.confused


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