Is rural Ireland as backwards as people say?

thee glitz

John_Rambo wrote: »

So, you've caused confusion, well done. Nobody said hetrosexuality was deviant.

So I made a mistake (by leaving room for confusion) and apologised. Related, the below suggests Ireland has said heterosexual sex is not the norm.

stefanovich wrote:

Deviancy, to deviate from the norm. Heterosexual sex being the norm. How does calling a spade a spade make me a bigot?

John_Rambo wrote: »

Ireland says you're incorrect.

stefanovich has since been called a deviant

Peter Anthony

smileyj1987 wrote: »

What part do you live in then because the town I'm in is pure backwards. The people from Dublin get blamed on everything.

smileyj1987 wrote: »

Ballyjamesduff myself ah I just think it's mad the carry on some of the so called locals have against the dubs. I was out Sunday and a few of us had a laugh about the whole Cavan loosing they took it so hard it was unreal yet last year it was ok for them to slag off the dubs in the football.
In fairness the dubs around here are quiet and I'm not being biased at all. The locals moaned about drugs and it was their kids selling them and not the dubs. I do think they are backwards and very backwards if you ask me.

Not biased ? Such rose tinted glasses! Ah yes those innocent salt of the earth Dubs, its the locals doing all the crime, the Dubs are just victims.....:pac:

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/feared-criminal-paschal-kelly-jailed-over-threat-to-kill-criminal-assets-bureau-cab-officer-31084427.html

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/crime/missing-men-were-found-tied-3610582

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/how-crime-has-spread-from-capital-to-rural-idylls-30219731.html

http://www.anglocelt.ie/news/roundup/articles/2015/05/08/4037546-drug-debt-beatings-in-ballyjamesduff/

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/dealer-visited-by-missing-men-has-fled-the-country-30223304.html

http://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/shop-owner-tells-horror-after-3895710

http://www.herald.ie/news/cab-seizes-mobsters-home-29978955.html

Theres no way you dont know or havent heard at least some of that since its mostly within last 2-3 years. To try and paint the locals as some backward criminal yokels, and every Dub in the area as some innocent angel is pretty pathetic.

Grayson

Jesus that's selective. You just picked some crimes committed by Dubs and use that as an argument?

The guy said that local kids were dealing drugs but that the locals blames Dubs. He never said that dubs were saints that never committed a crime.

Chill out a bit.

Peter Anthony

Grayson wrote: »

Jesus that's selective. You just picked some crimes committed by Dubs and use that as an argument?

The guy said that local kids were dealing drugs but that the locals blames Dubs. He never said that dubs were saints that never committed a crime.

Chill out a bit.

You must have missed this line.

In fairness the dubs around here are quiet and I'm not being biased at all. The locals moaned about drugs and it was their kids selling them and not the dubs.

Considering the list of crimes above committed in a small rural town, quiet is not a word I would use. I'm overly chilled out thanks. I have nothing against Dubs either, I know and get on with many. And I've no doubt locals are dealing drugs, drugs are dealt in every town/village in Ireland. But theres no point putting your head in the sand, the evidence is there in black and white.

Grayson

Peter Anthony wrote: »

You must have missed this line.



Considering the list of crimes above committed in a small rural town, quiet is not a word I would use. I'm overly chilled out thanks. I have nothing against Dubs either, I know and get on with many. And I've no doubt locals are dealing drugs, drugs are dealt in every town/village in Ireland. But theres no point putting your head in the sand, the evidence is there in black and white.

You listed a string of violent crimes. Now are you actually saying that in that particular cavan town all the drug dealers drive up from Dublin? Or that they are all Dubs that moved there?
Because what you seem to be saying is that there's absolutely no way cavan lads would be selling grass and it's obviously Dubs doing it. And your evidence is that some dubs have committed crimes outside Dublin.

RonanP77

Grayson wrote:

You listed a string of violent crimes. Now are you actually saying that in that particular cavan town all the drug dealers drive up from Dublin? Or that they are all Dubs that moved there? Because what you seem to be saying is that there's absolutely no way cavan lads would be selling grass and it's obviously Dubs doing it. And your evidence is that some dubs have committed crimes outside Dublin.

Read what you quoted, the bit where he says he knows local lads are dealing drugs.

John_Rambo

One article is an opinion piece, another one is about local drug dealers clashing with Dublin drug dealers and another one is about a tiger kidnapping carried out by people with very good local knowledge and intel. Dublin gang wasn't mentioned.

RonanP77

I was shopping around for a house in 2009, I wanted to move back to the country after 14 years living in a few local small towns and a village. I looked at a good few houses and found one in a nice location, I liked it enough to do a second viewing. The garden was only 0.5 acres so smaller than I would've liked but I was considering putting in an offer.

I have workmates and family that would know the area well enough so spoke to them. I was told that one lad moved down from Dublin a few years back, he was a real trouble maker and over the following few years about 90% of the houses in the immediate area were bought by Dubs too. They advised me to keep shopping around because the area now had a fairly bad reputation.

I found a bigger house with a bigger garden about 10 mile up the road, only one Dub in the area and then all local families that have been here for generations.

So yes, Dubs definitely have a bad reputation around Cavan. Enough so to influence big, life decisions for people.

John_Rambo

That's a great story, your point was that someone told you a Dub was a trouble maker? A pedophile Cavan man was caught with child porn in my area in Dublin. But we don't think you're all pedophiles.

RonanP77

John_Rambo wrote:

That's a great story, your point was that someone told you a Dub was a trouble maker? A pedophile Cavan man was caught with child porn in my area in Dublin. But we don't think you're all pedophiles.

My point was that Dubs do indeed have a bad reputation around here. If you read the whole post you would have seen that pointed out very clearly.

There have been major crimes committed around town over the last few years (pipe bombs, murder) and the main suspects are all Dubs.

John_Rambo

RonanP77 wrote: »

There have been major crimes committed around town over the last few years (pipe bombs, murder) and the main suspects are all Dubs.

Gangland carry on will always happen where there's drugs. There maybe Dublin involvement in some of the cases, but you'll find most crime is home grown. It's funny, case we had burglaries in our area carried out by a gang that traveled to Dublin to carry them out.

realdanbreen

John_Rambo wrote: »

A pedophile Cavan man was caught with child porn in my area in Dublin. But we don't think you're all pedophiles.

Speak for yourself!

topper75

John_Rambo wrote: »

That's a great story, your point was that someone told you a Dub was a trouble maker? A pedophile Cavan man was caught with child porn in my area in Dublin. But we don't think you're all pedophiles.

"Go handy with those sweets now kids!" was it?

John_Rambo

topper75 wrote: »

"Go handy with those sweets now kids!" was it?

His estranged wife reported him after she found it on his computer.

topper75

Sorry wasn't a genuine question. Just a crap Cavan joke. :-(

John_Rambo

topper75 wrote: »

Sorry wasn't a genuine question. Just a crap Cavan joke. :-(

I just got the Joke now!! HAHAHAAAA! :pac: It's a good one!

JupiterKid

Compared to a country like the USA the urban/rural divide in Ireland these days is quite small. Yes, rural areas do tend to be more conservative, but not to the degree that many city folk would suppose.

JoseWasntReady

JupiterKid wrote: »

Compared to a country like the USA the urban/rural divide in Ireland these days is quite small. Yes, rural areas do tend to be more conservative, but not to the degree that many city folk would suppose.

My da is from the back arse of Cork. Probably the most 'liberal' lad I know. The même about rural folk being uneducated buffoons is far from the truth.

Imho

ToddyDoody

Wouldnt a city version of the rte series 'Pure Mule', called 'Pure City Mule' be an interesting take on it all.

DoozerT6

Necro thread is necrotising

John_Rambo

JoseWasntReady wrote: »

My da is from the back arse of Cork. Probably the most 'liberal' lad I know. The même about rural folk being uneducated buffoons is far from the truth.

Imho

Did you read Jupider kids post that you quoted? He/she never mentioned education, he/she said the rural divide is quiet small.

ToddyDoody

ToddyDoody wrote: »

Wouldnt a city version of the rte series 'Pure Mule', called 'Pure City Mule' be an interesting take on it all.

There was. It was called love/hate...they all shot each other

JoseWasntReady

John_Rambo wrote: »

Did you read Jupider kids post that you quoted? He/she never mentioned education, he/she said the rural divide is quiet small.

Yep.

realdanbreen

It's a known fact that Dublin people are smarter than us down the country.
I mean they pay more for houses,accommodation, drink, parking, bus fares, train fares, car insurance, home insurance etc. They are more likely to be robbed, mugged, shot. Did you ever see them all packed into smelly buses morning and evening or stuck in traffic for hours?, don't they look so smart.:D

lawlolawl

realdanbreen wrote: »

It's a known fact that Dublin people are smarter than us down the country.
I mean they pay more for houses,accommodation, drink, parking, bus fares, train fares, car insurance, home insurance etc. They are more likely to be robbed, mugged, shot. Did you ever see them all packed into smelly buses morning and evening or stuck in traffic for hours?, don't they look so smart.:D

Excuse me sir, they are all there for the great paying jobs that get immediately cancelled out by the high cost of living and requirement to live in one of the worst cities i have ever personally visited.

jmayo

John_Rambo wrote: »

I just got the Joke now!! HAHAHAAAA! :pac: It's a good one!

JupiterKid wrote: »

Compared to a country like the USA the urban/rural divide in Ireland these days is quite small. Yes, rural areas do tend to be more conservative, but not to the degree that many city folk would suppose.

Jaysus I knew the auld broadband was bad in some parts, but did it actually take nearly a whole year for the thread to be updated by someone. :eek:

thattequilagirl

lawlolawl wrote: »

Excuse me sir, they are all there for the great paying jobs that get immediately cancelled out by the high cost of living and requirement to live in one of the worst cities i have ever personally visited.

I find the rural hatred of Dublin strange and bemusing. The cost of living is higher, but it doesn't cancel out what I earn compared to the minimum wage job I'd be in if I stayed in my hometown.

realdanbreen

thattequilagirl wrote: »

I find the rural hatred of Dublin strange and bemusing. The cost of living is higher, but it doesn't cancel out what I earn compared to the minimum wage job I'd be in if I stayed in my hometown.

So the minmum wage job you had in the sticks pays more in Dublin?

thattequilagirl

realdanbreen wrote: »

So the minmum wage job you had in the sticks pays more in Dublin?

Nope. I've got a solid career in Dublin. I'd have a choice between the local Spar, a pub job or maybe if I was lucky a few shifts at a factory.

FizzleSticks

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