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Star Wars: Rogue One *spoilers from post 1195*

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    #782
    krennic77
    Registered Users Posts: 26 ✭krennic77


    david75 wrote: »
    It Is definitely the ghost from Rebels.

    There's even more on the way. Think I wanna tune out until I see the film but I can't.

    IT IS USELESS TO RESIST.


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    #783
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Wow.

    Here we go:)

    https://www.facebook.com/TheSWU/posts/1330400486999687


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    #784
    S.M.B.
    Registered Users Posts: 9,373 ✭✭✭S.M.B.


    Didn't realise this was been shown in 2D 70mm at select IMAX screens.

    Now I need to make a call on seeing it for free on a standard screen opening night versus holding out and paying £22 to see it in its optimal format.


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    #785
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Don't know if any of you watch Star Wars Rebels. Anyways this saturdays episode apparently confirms Obi Wans relationship to Rey.
    He's rumoured to appear before the end of the season as Maul has discovered his whereabouts and has gone to find him to settle that old score and Ezra and Kanan look like they want to find him too.

    Let's see.


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    #786
    AmyKeeler
    Registered Users Posts: 8 ✭AmyKeeler


    Interesting piece on this in the Guardian today. They're suggesting Disney are intentionally limiting the potential success of Rogue One so as not to 'muddy the waters' with the other mainstream titles in the new Star Wars series. Seems an odd choice to me...


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    #787
    homerun_homer
    Registered Users Posts: 7,025 ✭✭✭homerun_homer


    AmyKeeler wrote: »
    Interesting piece on this in the Guardian today. They're suggesting Disney are intentionally limiting the potential success of Rogue One so as not to 'muddy the waters' with the other mainstream titles in the new Star Wars series. Seems an odd choice to me...

    I haven't seen the article yet but I imagine they don't want to emphasis every film the same way they would promote the legacy films. If they did then they would be accused of diminishing returns and what could be deemed negative press from it.


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    #788
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    AmyKeeler wrote: »
    Interesting piece on this in the Guardian today. They're suggesting Disney are intentionally limiting the potential success of Rogue One so as not to 'muddy the waters' with the other mainstream titles in the new Star Wars series. Seems an odd choice to me...

    Got a link? Not seeing it on their site


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    #789
    Mizu_Ger
    Registered Users Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Mizu_Ger


    david75 wrote: »
    Got a link? Not seeing it on their site

    I think this is it:
    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/dec/02/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-does-disney-want-to-cap-success


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    #790
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Mizu_Ger wrote: »
    I think this is it:
    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/dec/02/rogue-one-a-star-wars-story-does-disney-want-to-cap-success



    Thanks. I don't agree with it. They want the standalones to be successful in their own right. But seperate from the saga. I still think it was a bad idea to break up the release of the saga films by inserting these standalones. But only time will tell if that was a good or bad idea.


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    #791
    SnakePlissken
    Registered Users Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭SnakePlissken


    From the Guardian;

    It’s possible that Edwards, the man behind highly innovative sci-fi film Monsters, might in fact have made a movie so interesting it was actively distracting.???

    This article is satirical isn't it?


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    #792
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    This part was interesting. Especially if they are revealing Reys lineage in Rebels.


    “Disney would have been looking at the film through two lenses,” says Nash. “How do we make a great film and how do we fit it into the overall mythology? They want the secondary films [a young-Han-Solo movie is also on the way] to build into making the next main story even more interesting.


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    #793
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Pennys has a TON of Star Wars stuff if you're lookin for presents. Got these only €7 each
    https://instagram.com/p/BNzM6USBj1e/

    https://instagram.com/p/BNzMmwEBVqY/


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    #794
    Jan_de_Bakker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭Jan_de_Bakker


    david75 wrote: »
    Don't know if any of you watch Star Wars Rebels. Anyways this saturdays episode apparently confirms Obi Wans relationship to Rey.
    He's rumoured to appear before the end of the season as Maul has discovered his whereabouts and has gone to find him to settle that old score and Ezra and Kanan look like they want to find him too.

    Let's see.

    What now ??

    Maul ?


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    #795
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Yeah they brought Maul back in the clone wars series but he's a big part of the Rebels series.you can read how and why here

    http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Darth Maul


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    #796
    Jan_de_Bakker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭Jan_de_Bakker


    So I just read :

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38259838

    Iedit . who am I fooling !! !


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    #797
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    'Can we get trump supporters to boycott oxygen and water next? That'd be great!'


    I'm on board with that.


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    #798
    Jan_de_Bakker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭Jan_de_Bakker


    david75 wrote: »
    'Can we get trump supporters to boycott oxygen and water next? That'd be great!'


    I'm on board with that.


    Great !!!!

    You must be a PROGRESSIVE LIBERAL!!!!


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    #799
    bilston
    Registered Users Posts: 17,802 ✭✭✭✭bilston


    Jan_de_Bakker wrote: »
    david75 wrote: »
    'Can we get trump supporters to boycott oxygen and water next? That'd be great!'


    I'm on board with that.


    Great !!!!

    You must be a PROGRESSIVE LIBERAL!!!!

    Or just normal...


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    #800
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,497 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Aha, I knew there was something missing from the run-up to this film, but of course it's so obvious now: what's a modern-day blockbuster these days without the requisite cadre of raging, Twitter knuckle-draggers to really make you question the point of humanity. Episode VII, Ghostbusters etc. etc.

    Anti-Trump messages. Bloody hell. If a fictitious and exagerratedly evil empire feels like a cutting rebuke of their political choice, it's probably not a good sign & maybe these people should re-think pinning their flag to that particular mast.


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    #801
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    To quote a guy

    If Star Wars — an obvious allegory about Nazism — feels like an attack on your candidate, the problem isn’t with Star Wars… #DumpStarWars


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    #802
    Jan_de_Bakker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭Jan_de_Bakker


    But don't you think a Star Wars film should have zero political statements ?
    In a story set in a different f*cking galaxy after all ?

    This message doesn't belong in this film - in either side.


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    #803
    Jan_de_Bakker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭Jan_de_Bakker


    david75 wrote: »
    To quote a guy

    If Star Wars — an obvious allegory about Nazism — feels like an attack on your candidate, the problem isn’t with Star Wars… #DumpStarWars

    Not obviously about nazism to me ... but can't you just insert any "evil" ideology in there to represent the empire ?

    To me it's about a war involving some force sensitive beings that happened in a galaxy far far away ... a long time ago - so f*ck all this symbolism..


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    #804
    Tony EH
    Registered Users Posts: 19,287 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    And the right wing constantly go on about "precious snowflakes" on the left.

    IT'S A FUCKING FILM FOR CHRISTS SAKE. :pac:

    #triggeredbystarwars

    Laughable.


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    #805
    Jan_de_Bakker
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,403 ✭✭✭Jan_de_Bakker


    Tony EH wrote: »
    And the right wing constantly go on about "precious snowflakes" on the left.

    IT'S A FUCKING FILM FOR CHRISTS SAKE. :pac:

    #triggeredbystarwars

    Laughable.

    I agree ... but there should be no message in the film, thats why it annoys me ...


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    #806
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Star Wars history for you if you don't think it's allegorical.

    Lucas wrote it as a direct respons to Vietnam and then mined further and portrayed the nazis via the empire.

    The empire only hired white humans. Males mostly. No aliens among their ranks.

    And if you don't think art should be able to respond to real world political climate then you really are part of a bigger problem. .
    It's the job of art to speak to the time it's in.


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    #807
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    You don't have to acknowledge it or let it diminish your enjoyment but it was always there

    Few realize that the original Star Wars movie (1977) was an allegory about America and the Vietnam War. “Come again?!”, you say? In 2005, George Lucas revealed that Star Wars “was really about the Vietnam War….” He first conceptualized a Flash Gordon-inspired space saga in 1971 and began writing
    Vietnam-Legos Flowers the script on April 17, 1973 at age 29, in the midst of the United States’ escalating conflict in southeast Asia. Recall that Lucas (born May 14, 1944) wore a black beard back then, a proud counter-culture badge of honor in a divided America that was rapidly changing. The passions and conflicts of his era informed his world view.


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    #808
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Here's a podcast with three published current Star Wars authors talking about how Star Wars is fundamentally political and speaks to its time.

    Also there's a quote in revenge of the Sith that Lucas put in that he literally took from George w bush's mouth. 'If you're not with me then you're my enemy'

    Well worth a listen it's fascinating
    Episode description in the pic
    https://itunes.apple.com/ie/podcast/full-sith-star-wars-news-discussions/id591644330?mt=2&i=378325286


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    #809
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    I can't get the article to open. Is this a real world change or Alex Jones world?


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    #810
    pixelburp
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 36,497 CMod ✭✭✭✭pixelburp


    Jan_de_Bakker wrote: »
    But don't you think a Star Wars film should have zero political statements ?
    In a story set in a different f*cking galaxy after all ?

    This message doesn't belong in this film - in either side.

    The Empire have always been nazi standins, it's well documented. I mean their uniforms alone should be enough of a hint as to where the inspiration is being drawn from. And given the shadow of ww2 was still fresh enough in the mid 70s (the ww2 film genre was still pretty strong back then too), it's unsurprising that's the creative well Lucas & co. delved into.

    And honestly, the naxis are pretty weak 'politics' by all accounts. They're a fairly unambiguously evil ideology and history, their use is hardly controversial or topical


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    #811
    david75
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,611 ✭✭✭david75


    Ipso wrote: »
    I can't get the article to open. Is this a real world change or Alex Jones world?

    It's a podcast.


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