Munster SHC QF: Clare vs Limerick; Semple Stadium, Thurles; 24th May; 4pm

slegs

Draw

Limerick team announced

1. Barry Hennessy (Kilmallock), 2. Stephen Walsh (Glenroe), 3. Richie McCarthy (Blackrock), 4. Seamus Hickey (Murroe Boher), 5. Seanie O Brien (Patrickswell), 6. Gavin O Mahony (Kilmallock), 7. Tom Condon (Knockaderry), 8. James Ryan (Garryspillane), 9. Paudie O Brien (Kilmallock), 10. Donal O Grady (Granagh Ballingarry)(Captain), 11. Declan Hannon (Adare), 12. Paul Browne (Bruff), 13. Graeme Mulcahy (Kilmallock), 14. Shane Dowling (Na Piarsaigh) 15. Cian Lynch (Patrickswell).

Fireball07

Draw

slegs wrote: »

Limerick team announced

1. Barry Hennessy (Kilmallock), 2. Stephen Walsh (Glenroe), 3. Richie McCarthy (Blackrock), 4. Seamus Hickey (Murroe Boher), 5. Seanie O Brien (Patrickswell), 6. Gavin O Mahony (Kilmallock), 7. Tom Condon (Knockaderry), 8. James Ryan (Garryspillane), 9. Paudie O Brien (Kilmallock), 10. Donal O Grady (Granagh Ballingarry)(Captain), 11. Declan Hannon (Adare), 12. Paul Browne (Bruff), 13. Graeme Mulcahy (Kilmallock), 14. Shane Dowling (Na Piarsaigh) 15. Cian Lynch (Patrickswell).

The team that was touted to start for most of the week, I suppose the real question now is how they actually line out positionally?

Will we play a 3rd midfielder or a sweeper behind the half-back line?
If we play a sweeper, will it be Seanie O'Brien (perfect for the role) or Gavin (also good for the role but not as pacy). The fact that Wayne doesn't start would suggest that it will be SOB and Gavin will actually be at centre-back.
That would suggest Paudie to wing-back which I wouldn't be overly happy about, I prefer him higher up the pitch.
Who will mark Shane O'Donnell? Will Hickey man-mark him if McGrath doesn't make it.
Can Condon limit the influence of Conlon?
How fit is Dodge, we need him to win a fair share of ball and to carry it too... we've a good forward line but it's light enough in terms of powerful players who can run at defences. Downes and Reidy may need to be called upon.
Will Lynch line out at half-forward for puck-outs? Will he be given total freedom?
Can we score goals? Will we feed Mulcahy and Dowling the ball we need?
Will Hannon replicate his performances from the tail end of last year?


It's a promising start.

keeponhurling

Fireball07 wrote: »

Boards thinks Clare will win, the bookies think Limerick will. Hope the weather improves.

I just checked as I wasn't sure if you were serious, but yes Limerick are favourites with the bookies.

I slightly fancy Clare, but hadn't planned on putting any money on it.
I will now.

Browney7

Draw

Fireball07 wrote: »

The team that was touted to start for most of the week, I suppose the real question now is how they actually line out positionally?

Will we play a 3rd midfielder or a sweeper behind the half-back line?
If we play a sweeper, will it be Seanie O'Brien (perfect for the role) or Gavin (also good for the role but not as pacy). The fact that Wayne doesn't start would suggest that it will be SOB and Gavin will actually be at centre-back.
That would suggest Paudie to wing-back which I wouldn't be overly happy about, I prefer him higher up the pitch.
Who will mark Shane O'Donnell? Will Hickey man-mark him if McGrath doesn't make it.
Can Condon limit the influence of Conlon?
How fit is Dodge, we need him to win a fair share of ball and to carry it too... we've a good forward line but it's light enough in terms of powerful players who can run at defences. Downes and Reidy may need to be called upon.
Will Lynch line out at half-forward for puck-outs? Will he be given total freedom?
Can we score goals? Will we feed Mulcahy and Dowling the ball we need?
Will Hannon replicate his performances from the tail end of last year?


It's a promising start.

Its not beyong the realms of possibility we play a large chunk of this game with four forwards. Browne and Dodge will realistically drop back.

Tj hoping to expose the clare backs and create space for Mulcahy, Lynch, Hannon and Dowling. Looking at the two starting teams I think we'll shade it.

Fireball07

Draw

keeponhurling wrote: »

I just checked as I wasn't sure if you were serious, but yes Limerick are favourites with the bookies.

I slightly fancy Clare, but hadn't planned on putting any money on it.
I will now.

I'm thinking of putting money on Limerick after seeing the team; if Clare put out the team that is rumoured, I'd really hope we have enough to win through.

Limerick -3 is almost 2/1

Copper_pipe

Draw

http://www.thurles.info/2015/03/24/hawk-eye-technology-bound-for-semple-stadium/

Hawk Eye for Sunday?

eoins23456

Limerick by 6+

Actually can't wait for the game now ! Will be streaming rte player Utah so up the banner !!

Fireball07

Draw

Clare team officially announced, same as was leaked during the week:

1. Patrick Kelly
2. Domhnall O'Donovan
3. Cian Dillon
4. David McInerney
5. Pat Donnellan
6. Conor Ryan
7. Jack Browne
8. Pat O'Connor
9. Gearoid O'Connell
10. Shane Golden
11. Tony Kelly
12. Colin Ryan
13. John Conlon
14. Shane O'Donnell
15. David Reidy



Now it's just a matter of seeing whether those 15 do line out, without knowing the full 26, Davy can make a few changes before throw-in. It does seem slightly unlikely, since reports from within the camp would suggest that most of those were set to start.

Maybe Seadna Morey if he is passed fit? Nicky O'Connell/Bobby Duggan as outside possibilities for late changes. Nothing overly fearsome, I don't think.

thinkstoomuch1

http://www.irishpost.co.uk/sport/memorable-gaelic-grounds-schools-clash-hinted-at-potential-in-limerick-and-clare

marco_polo

Limerick by 6+

Would have fancied us more a few weeks ago, but think it is a slight advantage Limerick now with our missing players, but if the debutants can step up to the mark we still have every chance. He's hoping for a cracker anyway :cool:

niallo27

Ref keeping Limerick in the game.

dastardly00

A lot of them have been soft frees, but Clare have been very undisciplined so far.

marco_polo

Limerick by 6+

dastardly00 wrote: »

A lot of them have been soft frees, but Clare have been very undisciplined so far.

On the evidence so far we seem to have learnt nothing from last year defensively.

niallo27

dastardly00 wrote: »

A lot of them have been soft frees, but Clare have been very undisciplined so far.

Limerick have got two phantom frees but same poor tacking from last year from Clare.

dastardly00

Does Shane Dowling look like he's carrying a bit too much weight?

Browney7

Draw

niallo27 wrote: »

Limerick have got two phantom frees but same poor tacking from last year from Clare.

No doubt you are keeping a record of every decision made over the whole game and you'll let us know all the phantom frees both teams get?

Browney7

Draw

Ha good man pat donnellan. Filthy stroke

niallo27

Diving in the game now. He got him sent off.

Mushy

niallo27 wrote: »

Diving in the game now. He got him sent off.

100% red card, cant be striking

Say Your Number

What a stupid thing to do, especially in front of the linesman, can't complain about that.

Mantis Toboggan

That punch from donnellan was almost as ugly as marty morrissey!

dastardly00

niallo27 wrote: »

Diving in the game now. He got him sent off.

IT'S THE DARK FORCES AT PLAY AGAIN!!

Clareman

Mushy wrote: »

100% red card, cant be striking

Agree completely, 2 attempts to strike, red card every day of the week

thinkstoomuch1

Limerick been pretty awful ist half against injury depleted clsre but management know idea implement tactics

Clsre man deserved go but game over now limerick to win but there haunted as against wind lot scores frees and stronger team been pretty awful

Limerick will win but second half cant be taken face value as extra man huge advantage game like this

bennyl10

niallo27 wrote: »

Diving in the game now. He got him sent off.

Ah are you for real?!

Mr. Incognito

niallo27 wrote: »

Diving in the game now. He got him sent off.

Are you blind? Struck him in the head. After missing the first time,

Striking or attempting to strike is a red.

Fully deserved.

Dope.

Dyr

An Absolutely dire passage of officiating by both referee and linesman that led to that mess at the end.

Theyll get someone seriously hurt if they haven't already

marco_polo

Limerick by 6+

niallo27 wrote: »

Diving in the game now. He got him sent off.

Jesus Niallo you'd denend anything, sheer lunacy from Donnellan that will probably cost us the game. Richly deserved red card

niallo27

Mushy wrote: »

100% red card, cant be striking

Was stupid. But he touched his helmet with the Hurley and he went down like he was shot. Embarrassing from the Limerick player.

Very Bored

Very naive to strike like that straight in front of Sean Cleere. Cleere even had to move his own head out of the way. Was only ever going to be a deserved red. Shame because the game hasn't got going at all and it almost certainly won't now.

niallo27

marco_polo wrote: »

Jesus Niallo you'd denend anything, sheer lunacy from Donnellan that will probably cost us the game. Richly deserved red card

Was stupid alright but there is no doubting he faked injury.

GoldFour4

Found long periods of that half very tough to watch. Was expecting a much better game. Hoping it improves a lot in the second half, lots of frees disrupting the flow of the game too.

awaywithyou

Unfortunately strike or attempting to strike is red... But o'grady going off on a stretcher is Oscar winning stuff....

Mushy

niallo27 wrote: »

Was stupid. But he touched his helmet with the Hurley and he went down like he was shot. Embarrassing from the Limerick player.

He got a bit more than a touch

Browney7

Draw

niallo27 wrote: »

Was stupid. But he touched his helmet with the Hurley and he went down like he was shot. Embarrassing from the Limerick player.

No what's embarrassing is yet another clare player lets his side down in a championship game yet again. 4 red cards in last 3 games.

niallo27

Browney7 wrote: »

No what's embarrassing is yet another clare player lets his side down in a championship game yet again. 4 red cards in last 3 games.

I agree with you but there is no denying he faked injury to get him sent off.

An Ciarraioch

Wonder will the decision to vote down black cards in hurling be revisited next year - when played at speed, it's certainly the superior game, but the red card incident just proved that hurlers can be just as cynical as their footballing counterparta.

Mantis Toboggan

Some tie on Shefflin

bennyl10

niallo27 wrote: »

I agree with you but there is no denying he faked injury to get him sent off.

He connected with the helmet, injury or.not it's a red!

blackcard

malistheman wrote: »

Found long periods of that half very tough to watch. Was expecting a much better game. Hoping it improves a lot in the second half, lots of frees disrupting the flow of the game too.

The tendency of both teams to play additional players in defence is leading to a poor spectacle

Mantis Toboggan

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

Wonder will the decision to vote down black cards in hurling be revisited next year - when played at speed, it's certainly the superior game, but the red card incident just proved that hurlers can be just as cynical as their footballing counterparta.

Striking with the hurley is a red card. End of story. No excuses. Deserved to go.

niallo27

bennyl10 wrote: »

He connected with the helmet, injury or.not it's a red!

I agree it's a red but it's still embarrassing from both teams.

Gentleman Off The Pitch

bennyl10 wrote: »

He connected with the helmet, injury or.not it's a red!

A player getting deservedly sent off for striking and the 'victim' exaggerating the effect of the strike are not mutually exclusive. Diving continues to make inroads into our game

An Ciarraioch

Buddy Holly wrote: »

Striking with the hurley is a red card. End of story. No excuses. Deserved to go.

Precisely, it was the striking that I meant, sometimes you get hurling fans saying that the game is way cleaner, ignoring Tommy Walsh's antics, for one.

Mal-Adjusted

Some unreal lack of discipline in this Clare team...

BOHSBOHS

stupid from donnellan

but ogrady doing an "eden hazard"
stretchered off with his head bandaged was a bit much
he will have a quick recovery for the second half

surely cian lynchs stick into pat o'connors neck in the 2nd minute was an equally "filthy stroke" as you put it .

thinkstoomuch1

niallo27 wrote: »

Was stupid. But he touched his helmet with the Hurley and he went down like he was shot. Embarrassing from the Limerick player.

He in fairness now was hit on the head with intent
He had to go without a shadow of a doubt

niallo27

BOHSBOHS wrote: »

stupid from donnellan

but ogrady doing an "eden hazard"
stretchered off with his head bandaged was a bit much
he will have a quick recovery for the second half

surely cian lynchs stick into pat o'connors neck in the 2nd minute was an equally "filthy stroke" as you put it .

What about the yellow the Limerick man got for striking the Ryan when the ball was dropping. Should that have been a red.

Mantis Toboggan

Atleast lt Will give donnellan plenty of time to decide what boots his colleagues can and can't wear.

deadybai

Don't think that it was a dive as it shown him being bandaged up.

What a bad first half. Refereeing had been dreadful