Summer 2015 Transfer Window General Discussion

ben.schlomo

Ormus wrote: »

Seems like Fonte has been the main organizer in that defence over the past few years. It was thought to be Lovren but that was quickly dispelled when their defence improved after he left.

If he wants to leave for a major pay rise fair enough, but you'd think Southampton would fight tooth and nail to keep him.

Koeman has said hes a club man and has no interest in letting him leave.

Beefy78

glued wrote: »

He's rated much higher than Stones. He was on trial at United but he wasn't signed.

Rated by who as higher than Stones?

stephenl15

Beefy78 wrote: »

Rated by who as higher than Stones?

Barnsley fans

Corholio

Beefy78 wrote: »

Rated by who as higher than Stones?

In Barnsley circles apparently. But doesn't mean much really, players can go two ways when they start playing higher level. For every Stones there's a Bostock.

Giggsy11

Barca announced Adama Traore to Aston Villa deal. 10M Euros and 2M add ons. They have buy back clause for 3 years.

http://www.fcbarcelona.es/futbol/barca-b/detalle/noticia/acuerdo-con-el-aston-villa-por-adama-traore

Ramos agrees new 5 year deal with Madrid

http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/33956180


Madrid & Ramos Trolling Level : Expert

glued

rarnes1 wrote: »

Ramos agrees new 5 year deal with Madrid

http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/33956180


Madrid & Ramos Trolling Level : Expert

In fairness Madrid wouldn't give Ramos a new deal so he has essentially used United to get himself a new deal and forced Perez hand. It's not really that surprising that he stayed at Madrid considering from the start he mentioned that he wanted a pay rise and would only stay if he received one. There would be no reason for Ramos to leave Madrid unless he wanted a new challenge or someone was offering him more money.

ERG89

Kovacic to Madrid for €35m is likely too....could go either way that. Big fee for a player who hasn't yet fully showcased his talents at Inter but could easily end up being Illaramendi 2.0 at Real or a real asset.

Giggsy11

rarnes1 wrote: »

Ramos agrees new 5 year deal with Madrid

http://m.bbc.com/sport/football/33956180


Madrid & Ramos Trolling Level : Expert

Ronaldo and Ramos used ManUtd to get better deals at Madrid. Not sure why you say Madrid are trolling when they are forced to pay more than they expected.

klose

Otamendi off to city today if you are to belive ballague, if kompany gets back to his best (which he has looked the past 2 games, early days i know) and sign otamendi they could form an amazing parnership.

greendom

klose wrote: »

Otamendi off to city today if you are to belive ballague, if kompany gets back to his best (which he has looked the past 2 games, early days i know) and sign otamendi they could form an amazing parnership.

bit weird though that they spend €40 million on a centre back who took his time to adjust to the Premier League and then just as he appears to be hitting his stride he gets loaned out and replaced by another player who has to go through the same process.

Bit of a head scratcher for me !

Subcomandante Marcos

greendom wrote: »

bit weird though that they spend €40 million on a centre back who took his time to adjust to the Premier League and then just as he appears to be hitting his stride he gets loaned out and replaced by another player who has to go through the same process.

Bit of a head scratcher for me !

Who got loaned out?

GavRedKing

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Who got loaned out?

Its meant to be Otamendi in and Mangala out on loan.

CantGetNoSleep

GavRedKing wrote: »

Its meant to be Otamendi in and Mangala out on loan.

Mangala looked quite solid yesterday too

Johner

Wouldn't have thought City would be loaning Mangala, he's had a strong start to the season.

the whole year inn

Heard Valencia still owe money to city for Negredo so are getting a better deal.I doubt Mangala would be loaned out.

prettyboy81

the whole year inn wrote: »

Heard Valencia still owe money to city for Negredo so are getting a better deal.I doubt Mangala would be loaned out.

That seems to be the jist of it. Otamendi is in Manchester having completed a medical according to most reliable journalists. It's all about the difference from Negredo money and additional monies City will pay Valencia.

Harry Palmr

So City beats Utd for Otamendi by the looks of it. £31m, which is hefty for a "one season wonder".

Lord TSC

Harry Palmr wrote: »

So City beats Utd for Otamendi by the looks of it. £31m, which is hefty for a "one season wonder".

Worth noting the line from United weeks ago was we weren't interested in him; that all the links were coming from the other end of things, trying to talk up his price, while United weren't all that bothered....

MD1990

Lord TSC wrote: »

Worth noting the line from United weeks ago was we weren't interested in him; that all the links were coming from the other end of things, trying to talk up his price, while United weren't all that bothered....

Its Van Gaal's decision. But Otamendi is alot better than any CB Man Utd have.

GavRedKing

MD1990 wrote: »

Its Van Gaal's decision. But Otamendi is alot better than any CB Man Utd have.

Ramos is better than Otamendi and it looks like Utd now have neither.

I expected one of City or Utd to go after Stones too and with City getting Otamendi, I wouldnt be surprised to see Utd go after Stones.

Harry Palmr

Be something to see Utd and Chelsea go to war over an Everton CB, Sterling may yet not be the most expensive English player in history!

ERG89

MD1990 wrote: »

Its Van Gaal's decision. But Otamendi is alot better than any CB Man Utd have.

Surprised they haven't bought a centre back and a forward. Don't know much about Otamendi. Remember him vaguely in the 2010 World Cup.

Giggsy11

Lord TSC wrote: »

Worth noting the line from United weeks ago was we weren't interested in him; that all the links were coming from the other end of things, trying to talk up his price, while United weren't all that bothered....

Local journos posted all summer than ManUtd's name is just used to drum up the interest and even compared the situation to Gaitan.

https://twitter.com/JamesRobsonMEN/status/625944347595440128

https://twitter.com/jamesrobsonmen/status/622456074189324288

Giggsy11

Madrid confirmed Kovacic deal.

Harry Palmr

Illarramendi off somewhere you'd have to think.

cson

Nastasic - £12m & Savic
Mangala - £32m
Otamendi - £29m
Demichelis - £4m

... thats a **** load of money they've spent trying to get a partner for Kompany. :eek:

smileyj1987

cson wrote: »

Nastasic - £12m & Savic
Mangala - £32m
Otamendi - £29m
Demichelis - £4m

... thats a **** load of money they've spent trying to get a partner for Kompany. :eek:

Wow that's crazy they would have been better off getting godin from athletico. I think the chap is quality.

GavRedKing

cson wrote: »

Nastasic - £12m & Savic
Mangala - £32m
Otamendi - £29m
Demichelis - £4m

... thats a **** load of money they've spent trying to get a partner for Kompany. :eek:

Porto reported Mangala was over £40m.

CSF

smileyj1987 wrote: »

Wow that's crazy they would have been better off getting godin from athletico. I think the chap is quality.

Think they're looking for someone better at linking defence with midfield rather than an outright beast of a centre back like Kompany already is.

Gavlor

Everton would be crazy to reject 40million if it's offered. He's good, he's not 40 million good!


https://twitter.com/guardian_sport/status/633676971659145216

Wilberto

GavRedKing wrote: »

Porto reported Mangala was over £40m.

Porto would report the fee in euros, as opposed to City reporting it in sterling.



Still though, looking at that list (excluding Otamendi for obvious reason), it's insane to think that arguably the most successful one was by far the cheapest!

rob316

Gavlor wrote: »

Everton would be crazy to reject 40million if it's offered. He's good, he's not 40 million good!


https://twitter.com/guardian_sport/status/633676971659145216

Makes Raheem Sterling look cheap if that goes through. £40m, that's insanity.

batistuta9

Wilberto wrote: »

Porto would report the fee in euros, as opposed to City reporting it in sterling.

it wasn't a conversion mix up, it was to do with 3rd party ownership.
porto released a statement saying they received X amount for Y percent of the player rights for him.

rwbug

GavRedKing wrote: »

Porto reported Mangala was over £40m.

Source?

Man City announced that they paid Porto £32m. The question was whether City then paid additional money to other partial owners. Tbh I doubt it - that would be up to Porto to deal with - but makes a better story to inflate Citys fees, eg like the Tevez ones.

Liam O

rwbug wrote: »

Source?

Man City announced that they paid Porto £32m. The question was whether City then paid additional money to other partial owners. Tbh I doubt it - that would be up to Porto to deal with - but makes a better story to inflate Citys fees, eg like the Tevez ones.

I'd have no problem believing either story. Ask anyone how much Hazard cost and they'll probably tell you £32 odd million. Nobody mentions the 6 or so million to his agent and presumably a large signing on fee. Tevez's agent was Kia Joorabchian. Who knows how much he got?

Agent Coulson

Ouch a £19m loss.

Striker Roberto Soldado has moved from Tottenham to Spanish side Villarreal in a deal worth a reported £7m.

Soldado, 30, cost Spurs a club record £26m when he signed from Valencia in August 2013 but he only managed seven goals in 52 Premier League appearances.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33978699

rwbug

GavRedKing wrote: »

Porto reported Mangala was over £40m.

Porto announced to the stock exchange receipt of €30.5m for 56.7% of Mangala's rights. This does not automatically mean that City paid €23M for the 43.3% owned by a third party.

Which is where the larger number comes from.

That_Guy

Florian Thauvin looks set to join Newcastle for around £12m from Marseille with Remy Cabella set to go on loan the other way.

EDIT: Marseille. Not Lille

batistuta9

rwbug wrote: »

Source?

Man City announced that they paid Porto £32m. The question was whether City then paid additional money to other partial owners. Tbh I doubt it - that would be up to Porto to deal with - but makes a better story to inflate Citys fees, eg like the Tevez ones.

why would porto pay it? what kind of clowns do you think they're :pac:

http://www.maisfutebol.iol.pt/fc-porto/manchester-city/oficial-mangala-custa-30-5-milhoes

After the Manchester City have officially announced the hiring of Mangala, also FC Porto did the same in a statement sent to the CMVM. According to the note of the SAD FC Porto, FC Porto receives 30.5 million euros by 57.67 percent of pass it held in relation to the player. This means that Mangala was valued at 53.8 million euros.




That Porto had sold 33.3 percent of Mangala go to Doyen Sports and had assigned shortly to record when hired to Standard Liege, 10 percent to Robi Plus. So had only 56.67 percent of the pass.

Check out the reports in full:

"The Futebol Clube do Porto - Futebol, SAD, in accordance with Article 248 paragraph 1 of the Securities Code, hereby informs the market that it has reached an agreement with Manchester City for the transfer, on a permanent basis, the sport registration fees, and 56.67% of the economic rights held, professional football player Eliakim Mangala, the amount of € 30,500,000 (thirty million five hundred thousand euros). The Board of Directors Porto, 11 August 2014 »

Harry Palmr

update

Harry Palmr wrote: »

At the rate of attrition Spurs will have sold/loaned all their "Bale bounty" transfers by Sept 1st!

29/08/13 C. Eriksen Ajax € 12M
29/08/13 E. Lamela Roma € 30M
29/08/13 V. Chiricheş Steaua € 8.5M SOLD
14/08/13 E. Capoue Toulouse € 11M SOLD
04/08/13 Soldado Valencia € 30M SOLD
25/07/13 N. Chadli Twente € 6.5M
05/07/13 Paulinho Corinthians € 20M SOLD

Lamela to Juve is currently being speculated upon.

Talib Fiasco

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Ouch a £19m loss.

Striker Roberto Soldado has moved from Tottenham to Spanish side Villarreal in a deal worth a reported £7m.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33978699

Watch him suddenly become a top striker again.

Ranchu

Gavlor wrote: »

Everton would be crazy to reject 40million if it's offered. He's good, he's not 40 million good!

I think he'll stay now. I don't think anyone will offer that sum for him again but they will get close to it a couple of years down the line.

Everton should hold out for 50m for the lols

Wilberto

batistuta9 wrote: »

it wasn't a conversion mix up, it was to do with 3rd party ownership.
porto released a statement saying they received X amount for Y percent of the player rights for him.

Fair enough. In truth I didn't have a clue really! Just offering a plausible suggestion! :pac:

Chelsea in for Pedro according to the Guardian.

Ouch

Giggsy11

Many rumors about Pedro close to Chelsea and is in London to complete the move.

MD1990

https://twitter.com/MikeKeegan_DM/status/633947460285677568

lol

Harry Palmr

Arf! Utd are far worse than Liverpool at "ending their interest".

ricero

Ed Woodward seems to be starting to look like an amateur when dealing with the big clubs