Summer 2015 Transfer Window General Discussion

Paully D

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Stones would be better off staying with Everton atleast for 1 more season. He is only starting to establish himself can't see him playing week in week out at Chelsea. He will get his move in time. Fair enough when your 23-24 looking to win trophies etc but he is only getting his career up and running.

Easy for us to say I suppose.

Chelsea offer - a club who challenge at the highest level of world football, about 3 times his current weekly wage of £30,000, and London, which on a footballers wage is one of the best cities to live in in the world.

If I was him, I'd be confidently thinking (perhaps naively) that I'm good enough to get into the side now, that I will get into the side now, and the aforementioned benefits would just make me even more determined to leave.

Agent Coulson

Fair play to Stones for handing in the transfer request.

eh i dunno

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Fair play to Stones for handing in the transfer request.

Why?

Agent Coulson

eh i dunno wrote: »

Why?

In a day and age where players use the media and there agents to force a move etc and refuse to be upfront and say I want out because they will lose out on some loyalty bonus money when they clearly have no loyalty to the club to begin with.

Fair play to the lad for being honest enough to give the money up and to say he want's out.

Harry Palmr

Paying 40m for Stones is the height of madness. And yes I know Rio Ferdinand cost about that (maybe more) inflation adjusted.

ShoulderChip

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Paying 40m for Stones is the height of madness. And yes I know Rio Ferdinand cost about that (maybe more) inflation adjusted.

why?

Beefy78

Are we going to go through this every time? This is the price that Premier League first team players go for in the post-new TV deal world. The clubs haven't even got that money yet but they know it is coming in and simply have no need to sell for less.

Lukker-

Agent Coulson wrote: »

In a day and age where players use the media and there agents to force a move etc and refuse to be upfront and say I want out because they will lose out on some loyalty bonus money when they clearly have no loyalty to the club to begin with.

Fair play to the lad for being honest enough to give the money up and to say he want's out.

100% agree. I think Stones comes off really well from this, not a peep from him or his agent. No trying to subvert the system to keep his loyalty bonus.

Harry Palmr

ShoulderChip wrote: »

why?

You pay that for strikers, not defenders. It's just wrong :pac:

Gavlor

Foregoing his Loyalty bonus my arse. Everton have turned down 3 bids so far and don't want to sell.

He'll get a decent wedge of a signing fee from Chelsea and will more than likely double his wages, but fair play to him.

Fwiw you can't blame him for looking to move, he's not an Everton fan, he'll earn more money, bigger club, a chance of winning a trophy, champions league. Aside from being under more scrutiny it's a no brainer. But I'd rather see him go to United or Arsenal...

Corholio

Him handing in a transfer request is hardly the height of respectfulness that some seem to be making out. It's just an official way of saying he wants out, his head was turned long ago with promise of coin. Wouldn't begrudge any player advancing to a bigger club etc, but let's not make it out to be anything other than a part of the transaction he wants to happen.

Lukker-

They could very well keep him if Evertons valuation isn't met. He didn't make his position untenable at the club like Sterling to force a move. He wants the move and there is a right way and a wrong way to go about business. Transfer requests are a thing for a reason.

inforfun

There are players who win everything with every club they join but cant kick a ball straight for their country. prime example Clarence Seedorf.

And you have players who cant get off the bench for 4 years at 4 different clubs but are doing great for their country.

Last category is certainly for Eduardo Vargas who is now going to Hoffenheim after 3,5 years Napoli. They bought him for 13 million and let him go now for 3,5.

I really hope he is going to do well at Hoffenheim.

Harry Palmr

When does the Transfer window actually close?

Lucas Hood

Harry Palmr wrote: »

When does the Transfer window actually close?

Tuesday evening i think.

Harry Palmr

Harry Palmr wrote: »

When does the Transfer window actually close?

The 1st. The time is earlier, 5 or 6 afaik.

Luckycharms_74

Harry Palmr wrote: »

When does the Transfer window actually close?

Sept 1st at 6pm GMT

• Clubs given time to submit Champions League squads
• Window extended to 1 September because of August bank holiday


Jim White will be choking on his cocoa after the deadline for the summer transfer window was brought forward to 6pm, denying the Sky Sports News anchor his late-night moment in the spotlight.

The Premier League has moved the deadline in order to allow clubs, in this case Chelsea, the Manchester clubs and Arsenal, to comply with Fifa’s own cut-off point for submitting Champions League squads which is 11pm.

The good news for the 20 Premier League clubs is that they have an extra day to do their business, the window having been extended to 1 September because of the last day of August being a bank holiday.

The bad news is that TV audiences will be denied White’s late helming of the frantic Sky rumour mill, a traditional end to the transfer window that used to take football fans through to 11pm.

kfallon

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

The bad news is that TV audiences will be denied White’s late helming of the frantic Sky rumour mill, a traditional end to the transfer window that used to take football fans through to 11pm.

I don't see any bad news there whatsoever!!!

POKERKING

Lukker- wrote: »

They could very well keep him if Evertons valuation isn't met. He didn't make his position untenable at the club like Sterling to force a move. He wants the move and there is a right way and a wrong way to go about business. Transfer requests are a thing for a reason.

I dont see how leaving everton in the ****ter 3 games into the season and a week before the window closes is any better than how sterling got his move.

Harry Palmr

I have to say I'll miss the evening vibe of the end of the window. Seems wrong in daylight.

CantGetNoSleep

I should cancel my purple dildo order now too

Dickerty

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I have to say I'll miss the evening vibe of the end of the window. Seems wrong in daylight.

Better visibility for the Babelcopter. :cool:

Harry Palmr

Jan Aage Fjortoft ‏@JanAageFjortoft 3m3 minutes ago
SportBild reporting that Leverkusen-player Son goes to Tottenham.

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Left Back on the Bench

MightyMandarin wrote:

Good point, but Spurs really should've tried harder to get Ings. Both players had similar records last season, and Ings would've been a much cheaper transfer. Speaking as a neutral, Ings is absolutely wasting his career at Liverpool and will not get the chances he could've gotten at Spurs, especially now that Sturridge is coming back.

Spurs bid £12 million for ings. He only wanted to sign for Liverpool as far as i thought

Exclamation Marc

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

Sept 1st at 6pm GMT

• Clubs given time to submit Champions League squads
• Window extended to 1 September because of August bank holiday

Any idea how it works again with the foreign leagues? France, Germany, Spain, Italy and Holland's windows all close at midnight on the 31st. Portuguese window is open til nearly the end of September too if I remember correctly.

I always forget, but does it still mean that those leagues can sell to England but not register/buy players?

inforfun

FireballPitcher wrote: »

Any idea how it works again with the foreign leagues? France, Germany, Spain, Italy and Holland's windows all close at midnight on the 31st. Portuguese window is open til nearly the end of September too if I remember correctly.

I always forget, but does it still mean that those leagues can sell to England but not register/buy players?

You got it.
Still could register out of contract players of course.

Winston Payne

POKERKING wrote: »

I dont see how leaving everton in the ****ter 3 games into the season and a week before the window closes is any better than how sterling got his move.

Stones has wanted to move for weeks, has done things by the book with his transfer request and his on-field performances haven't suffered so far this season. Everton needed to buy centre halves, plural, this window to begin with. The situations are not the same.

Oat23

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Son to Spurs

If this happens I hope Levy doesn't leave it till the last minute and sorts it out in the next few days. HSV will be due 10% of the fee and about 500 grand for training him. That'd be around €3.5m if the €30m fee is correct. That's another player or two for us!

Liam O

Harry Palmr wrote: »

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I can't be the only one who was really confused about why a Leverkusen player's son was moving?

Winston Payne

Liam O wrote: »

I can't be the only one who was really confused about why a Leverkusen player's son was moving?

It's funny because he has an Asian name.

Harry Palmr

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Paying 40m for Stones is the height of madness. And yes I know Rio Ferdinand cost about that (maybe more) inflation adjusted.

Rio Ferdinand had played in a CL semi final and had an impressive World Cup, was the youngest defender to play for England and was captain of Leeds United when he made the move. His cv was a bit better than John Stones.

eh i dunno

Stones starts for everton tonight

Oat23

And Sonny isn't in the squad for Leverkusen tonight so it looks like he will be going to Spurs.

POKERKING

Winston Payne wrote: »

Stones has wanted to move for weeks, has done things by the book with his transfer request and his on-field performances haven't suffered so far this season. Everton needed to buy centre halves, plural, this window to begin with. The situations are not the same.

Both equally bad for different reasons if you ask me. Of course stones won't get booed at every away game like Sterling.

Winston Payne

POKERKING wrote: »

Both equally bad for different reasons if you ask me. Of course stones won't get booed at every away game like Sterling.

Nobody asked you and they both left for the same reasons.

Gavlor

Martinez fairly adamant that stones won't be going. "Sometimes money can't buy everything"..... I wonder if the Everton board feel the same?

https://twitter.com/toffeetv1/status/636655162174623744

MightyMandarin

Gavlor wrote: »

Martinez fairly adamant that stones won't be going. "Sometimes money can't buy everything"..... I wonder if the Everton board feel the same?

Fair play to Roberto for trying to dig his heels in; whether it will work is another matter though.

Something tells me Chelsea might send him back on loan for a year, as I don't think JT is finished like the media are portraying, or else Everton will hold them off until next year.

In terms of his development, another year at Everton would be the best option for Stones imo.

Panthro

MightyMandarin wrote: »

Fair play to Roberto for trying to dig his heels in; whether it will work is another matter though.

Something tells me Chelsea might send him back on loan for a year, as I don't think JT is finished like the media are portraying, or else Everton will hold them off until next year.

In terms of his development, another year at Everton would be the best option for Stones imo.

Exactly, English media tripe.
Terry was a country mile top CB last season, played every single minute of the campaign.
And a few months later he's suddenly not worth a fiddlers?! Give over English journos, anyone that knows a thing about terry is (a) never was the fastest and he's 34 ffs, and (b) terry will break himself trying to get back into the first team to prove to himself and Chelsea he's still got what it takes.
English media are so full of guff.

Boskowski

German media reporting that de Bruyne to City is done for €75m.

Boskowski

Boskowski wrote: »

German media reporting that de Bruyne to City is done for €75m.

City are the big dogs this year. Building an exciting team

Cantona's Collars

Kevin Nolan has left West Ham. SSN.

Exclamation Marc

Coentrao has gone to Monaco on loan.

POKERKING

Winston Payne wrote: »

Nobody asked you and they both left for the same reasons.

OK.

You do understand how forums work, right?

Francie Barrett

zerks wrote: »

Kevin Nolan has left West Ham. SSN.

Good option for a Championship team.

ERG89

Digne to Roma (loan with option to buy).
Llorente to Sevilla on a free looking likely.
Balotelli to Milan.....wont comment on the quality of it yet, although he hasn't done anything in 2 years. Milan needed a midfielder & another centre back both with pace

Exclamation Marc

Oat23 wrote: »

And Sonny isn't in the squad for Leverkusen tonight so it looks like he will be going to Spurs.

The Guardian (and others) are saying that he has an obligation to begin 21 months of military duty for South Korea before he hits 28.

Risky investment with no resale value if he is compelled to carry it out (no guarantee of a reprieve).

glued

Manufactured Miracle wrote: »

The Guardian (and others) are saying that he has an obligation to begin 21 months of military duty for Souty Korea before he hits 28.

Risky investment with no resale value if he is compelled to carry it out (no guarantee of a reprieve).

He'll probably only have to do 4 weeks basic training. Many athletes are exempt from full conscription and have to complete a 4 week basic training course which can be done in the off-season.

Godot.

Who have Wolfsburg been linked with as a replacement for KDB? You'd think with £58m they'd be able to buy 2 or 3 high class players

Dickerty

Godot. wrote: »

Who have Wolfsburg been linked with as a replacement for KDB? You'd think with £58m they'd be able to buy 2 or 3 high class players

Maybe Mkhitaryan, since he looks he might be available?
Some Russian teams still offloading foreign players due to new restrictions...

Oat23

Godot. wrote: »

Who have Wolfsburg been linked with as a replacement for KDB? You'd think with £58m they'd be able to buy 2 or 3 high class players

I read a few days ago they are interested in Dennis Praet from Anderlecht.