Summer 2015 Transfer Window General Discussion

Hangballlouie

TheDoctor wrote: »

Money talks

But it don't sing and dance
And it don't walk.

Iused2likebusts

jpboard1 wrote: »

Who will go to them?

I'd say real will go in for hazard or aguero next summer so utd would be in the mix to get one of benzema Ronaldo or bale. Basically this is when the English teams buy off real and barca when they feel they have strengthened and want to offload a player . Sanchez Pedro ozil adm fabregas. The current strategy of persuing players at these clubs that are currently key players isn't going to work as these players won't want to take a step down.

theoneeyedman

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Next summers transfer window is going to be nuts when the new tv money kicks in if clubs are will to pay £36m for a teenage player with one full season under his belt what will a player cost this time next year.

This time next year, that lad will be off on loan at Bournemouth or Brugge or somewhere like that.......

glued

theoneeyedman wrote: »

This time next year, that lad will be off on loan at Bournemouth or Brugge or somewhere like that.......

Do you want to place a bet on that?

€100 charity bet?

He's a good player and a great talent but he's not worth that money. It's a bit insane considering you could probably get Fekir for that price, who is much further long in his development. It'll be interesting to see what Lacazette goes for next Summer. It's been hinted that when Ibra leaves PSG that Lacazette is his replacement and PSG wanted to sign him this summer. With Martial going for around £36M you could easily add £15M on to that price now. Fekir is worth £150M on that scale.

Ferris_Bueller

EuropeanSon wrote: »

Think Utd didn't sign a top striker for the same reason Arsenal didn't, the same reason Chelsea signed Falcao. There weren't any around who were gettable.

Fair enough point. Does that make Liverpool fans any happier that they signed Benteke in the end? There was a bit of a divide among fans before they signed him. Would Arsenal or United fans have taken Benteke for the same price?

I think Uniteds biggest mistake was not getting Pedro. He would have fitted in perfectly, and not only did they miss out on him but he went to a rival.

jpboard1

Ferris_Bueller wrote: »

Fair enough point. Does that make Liverpool fans any happier that they signed Benteke in the end? There was a bit of a divide among fans before they signed him. Would Arsenal or United fans have taken Benteke for the same price?

I think Uniteds biggest mistake was not getting Pedro. He would have fitted in perfectly, and not only did they miss out on him but he went to a rival.

Why would you think he would have fitted in perfectly?

rarnes1

rarnes1 wrote: »

It's bad for Utd in the sense he now leaves for free.

It wouldn't be outlandish to suggest he would have commanded near 50m if he had 2 or 3 years left on his contract. Letting his current contract run down was the biggest mistake Utd made.

Also, now they are left with a player u til Christmas at least that probably doesn't want to be there. Not to mention missing out on his replacement.


I'd say heads will roll over this clusterfcuk

Please tell me how you know he's now going to leave on a free?

Pure tosh your posting you have absolutely no idea what's going to happen from now until the next transfer window

Ferris_Bueller

jpboard1 wrote: »

Why would you think he would have fitted in perfectly?

Well he would have provided an option as a striker and as a wide forward as well which are two positions they need other options in. I'd imagine he'd start almost every game for them, whereas if they just signed an out and out centre forward would they start every game if Rooney finds form again?

rwbug

theoneeyedman wrote: »

This time next year, that lad will be off on loan at Bournemouth or Brugge or somewhere like that.......

More likely than that is him falling out with LVG - for something silly like trying to beat a player or playing a risky through ball.

Subcomandante Marcos

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Please tell me how you know he's now going to leave on a free?

Because he wants to leave, he wants to go to Madrid and Real know it.

The absolute best united can hope for is that LVG is pig headed enough to not play him in the CL so he's not cup tied or Real decide to be generous and pay a small fee in January to play him in La Liga while playing Navas in Europe like they did with Lopez and Casillas.

If he decides to tough out the rest of his United contract he will be able to ask for absolutely insane wages, a hefty signing bonus and lots of nice extras thanks to the fact that Real won't have to pay a fee for him. It's win win for him and Real right now.

Real are in a pretty nice position, their current 'keeper is pretty bloody good, they don't really need to replace him, he's probably still one of the top 2 'keepers in La Liga.

United are sitting with a busted flush and no way of buying back in.

Heads should roll in Old Trafford for this.

Cookiemunster

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Because he wants to leave, he wants to go to Madrid and Real know it.

The absolute best united can hope for is that LVG is pig headed enough to not play him in the CL so he's not cup tied or Real decide to be generous and pay a small fee in January to play him in La Liga while playing Navas in Europe like they did with Lopez and Casillas.

If he decides to tough out the rest of his United contract he will be able to ask for absolutely insane wages, a hefty signing bonus and lots of nice extras thanks to the fact that Real won't have to pay a fee for him. It's win win for him and Real right now.

Real are in a pretty nice position, their current 'keeper is pretty bloody good, they don't really need to replace him, he's probably still one of the top 2 'keepers in La Liga.

United are sitting with a busted flush and no way of buying back in.

Heads should roll in Old Trafford for this.

Why? Utd were happy enough to do the transfer and Real fcuked it up. How is that the fault of anyone at Utd?
Plus after this debacle Navas is not a happy camper. He knows he's out the door ASAP.

RayCon

Cookiemunster wrote: »

Why? Utd were happy enough to do the transfer and Real fcuked it up.

... but were Utd only happy to do the transfer because they really had no option due to situation described above by Subcomandante Marcos ?

You can't honestly tell me they were happy to do the transfer because they no longer viewed De Gea as essential.

Giggsy11

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

Because he wants to leave, he wants to go to Madrid and Real know it.

The absolute best united can hope for is that LVG is pig headed enough to not play him in the CL so he's not cup tied or Real decide to be generous and pay a small fee in January to play him in La Liga while playing Navas in Europe like they did with Lopez and Casillas.

If he decides to tough out the rest of his United contract he will be able to ask for absolutely insane wages, a hefty signing bonus and lots of nice extras thanks to the fact that Real won't have to pay a fee for him. It's win win for him and Real right now.

Real are in a pretty nice position, their current 'keeper is pretty bloody good, they don't really need to replace him, he's probably still one of the top 2 'keepers in La Liga.

United are sitting with a busted flush and no way of buying back in.

Heads should roll in Old Trafford for this.

FFS. It's united, small fee they can take it and shove it. We are not talking about Udinese or similar clubs who depend on transfer income.

It's unreal people are blaming United for this saga. What should they have done? Beg Madrid to sign him before the transfer window shut?

Now Madrid have unhappy keeper who they tried to force him out and also failed to sign their transfer target.

On the other hand ManUtd have one of the best GK for 1 more year and have enough time to search for replacement.

Quazzie

Giggsy11 wrote: »

FFS. It's united, small fee they can take it and shove it. We are not talking about Udinese or similar clubs who depend on transfer income.

It's unreal people are blaming United for this saga. What should they have done? Beg Madrid to sign him before the transfer window shut?

Now Madrid have unhappy keeper who they tried to force him out and also failed to sign their transfer target.

On the other hand ManUtd have one of the best GK for 1 more year and have enough time to search for replacement.

So Real have an unhappy keeper, and it's a bad thing, but United have an unhappy keeper and it's a good thing???

Giggsy11

RayCon wrote: »

... but were Utd only happy to do the transfer because they really had no option due to situation described above by Subcomandante Marcos ?

You can't honestly tell me they were happy to do the transfer because they no longer viewed De Gea as essential.

Madrid contacted Manutd on the last day, at lunch time.

United were happy to do transfer as long as Navas was part of the deal and it took so many days for Madrid to make acceptable bid.

This is the club that just paid 36 Million for 19 year old who played around 60 games, they don't care much about 20 odd million when they can retain player for 1 more year and their training kit sponsorship deal covers most of this transfer.

Giggsy11

Quazzie wrote: »

So Real have an unhappy keeper, and it's a bad thing, but United have an unhappy keeper and it's a good thing???

Madrid have unhappy keeper they tried to force out.

United have unhappy keeper who wanted out but the buying club ****ed it up. Now ManUtd have one of the best keeper for 1 more year.

Cookiemunster

RayCon wrote: »

... but were Utd only happy to do the transfer because they really had no option due to situation described above by Subcomandante Marcos ?

You can't honestly tell me they were happy to do the transfer because they no longer viewed De Gea as essential.

De Gea was offered a huge new contract a year ago, which he decided not to sign. What were Utd supposed to do? They'd prefer to keep him and let him see out his contract as he's one of the best in the world and the team is better with him in it, but were willing to let him go for the right price.
Real knew that all summer, but didn't meet that price until the last day and then fcuked up the deal at the last minute.
I fail to see why heads should roll at OT over this.

Plus there's reports this morning that Navas is so pissed off at his treatment that he contacted Utd yesterday to see if his transfer could be resurrected.

Paully D

How can any Manchester United fan be happy with the breakdown of the De Gea deal?

He clearly doesn't want to be there and the deal was getting a reasonably good goalkeeper and a very generous fee for someone in the last year of their contract. Instead, there's now an obviously extremely disappointed goalkeeper there who will be difficult to motivate, and he'll now be lost for a significantly reduced fee in January or for nothing in the summer.

A cock up that's no good for anyone concerned, no matter how people are trying to spin it.

Cookiemunster

Paully D wrote: »

How can any Manchester United fan be happy with the breakdown of the De Gea deal?

He clearly doesn't want to be there and the deal was getting a reasonably good goalkeeper and a very generous fee for someone in the last year of their contract. Instead, there's now an obviously extremely disappointed goalkeeper there who will be difficult to motivate, and he'll now be lost for a significantly reduced fee in January or for nothing in the summer.

A cock up that's no good for anyone concerned, no matter how people are trying to spin it.

I'm not denying that it would have probably been better for everyone if the deal had gone through, but I'm not having the BS that Utd are to blame for any of this. It's 100% Reals fault that the transfer was left until that last day of the transfer window and 100% Reals fault that it collapsed.

Lovely Bloke

Do people really, really, expect DDG to start playing like he's some uninterested U16 hormonal boy, or do people expect him to be a professional and play to the best of his ability. ESPECIALLY with the Euro's next summer. He'll, of course, be looking to maintain his form, fitness and maximise his chances of being the Spain #1.

Beefy78

Giggsy11 wrote: »

Madrid contacted Manutd on the last day, at lunch time.

United were happy to do transfer as long as Navas was part of the deal and it took so many days for Madrid to make acceptable bid.

This is the club that just paid 36 Million for 19 year old who played around 60 games, they don't care much about 20 odd million when they can retain player for 1 more year and their training kit sponsorship deal covers most of this transfer.

But you're acting as if de Gea is just another Manchester United player who Madrid out of the blue have decided they want to buy.

The reality is that this is a player who has made so clear that he wants to leave that United have felt unable to play him this season. He has refused to sign a contract and made it clear through the media that he wants to join a specific club.

Man United we already know have been speaking to Real Madrid throughout this summer both about de Gea and also about Sergio Ramos. It is pretty incredible that they didn't manage to broker a deal and seemingly didn't seriously try until this week.

Real Madrid don't care either way, they're seemingly more than happy to get possibly the best goalkeeper in the World on a free transfer. Man United just now seem to be assuming that they're going to be able to put a pissed off young man back in goal and hope that he is still the same player he was last season despite not wanting to be there and having no real reason beyond professionalism (and again, this is a player who the club have felt unable to play this season which does not speak well of his professionalism) to care about whether they win games and finish in the top four.

I guess I understand the desire of Manchester United fans to blindly back their club - especially on somewhere like Boards which so frequently sees threads descend into dick swinging contests with rival fans - but are there any neutrals here who don't think that Manchester United have horribly mismanaged the entire situation?

Beefy78

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

Do people really, really, expect DDG to start playing like he's some uninterested U16 hormonal boy, or do people expect him to be a professional and play to the best of his ability. ESPECIALLY with the Euro's next summer. He'll, of course, be looking to maintain his form, fitness and maximise his chances of being the Spain #1.

Why has he not played this season until now if he is this model pro?

Lovely Bloke

...and another thing, this "United should have tied him down to a contract last year/2 years ago" bullshít that all the captain hindsights are coming out with.

1. how do you know he wasn't offered it then?
2. if he was and refused, should they have sold him then? Really?

I'd love to know what all the master negotiators in here would have done with DDG last summer when they offered him the bumper contract and he refused to sign it, saying "nah, I'll let my contract wind down and see what happens, in fact, if Madrid come in earlier I'll probably like to go there, so get what you can for me whenever you can, until then I'll play like the pro I am".

Do I think DDG was "mentally unprepared" since the start of the season? Maybe he was, Madrid had been throwing shapes at him all summer, but seemingly never bid until Lunchtime monday. LVG did the RIGHT thing leaving him out until the window shut, the responsible thing for the team he manages, looks like it's losing the #1 GK, so give the guy who's probably his replacement game time, it was the prudent thing to do.

dfx-

It pretty much all depends on whether Madrid get a transfer or registration ban for two windows. If he then can't sign until the season after next, he has to get his head down..

Lovely Bloke

Beefy78 wrote: »

having no real reason beyond professionalism (and again, this is a player who the club have felt unable to play this season which does not speak well of his professionalism) to care about whether they win games and finish in the top four.

Please, list examples of players at any other club who have reasons beyond professionalism to want the club they play for to do well?

I think the last of them moved out to LA this summer tbh.

Giggsy11

Beefy78 wrote: »

But you're acting as if de Gea is just another Manchester United player who Madrid out of the blue have decided they want to buy.

The reality is that this is a player who has made so clear that he wants to leave that United have felt unable to play him this season. He has refused to sign a contract and made it clear through the media that he wants to join a specific club.

Man United we already know have been speaking to Real Madrid throughout this summer both about de Gea and also about Sergio Ramos. It is pretty incredible that they didn't manage to broker a deal and seemingly didn't seriously try until this week.

Real Madrid don't care either way, they're seemingly more than happy to get possibly the best goalkeeper in the World on a free transfer. Man United just now seem to be assuming that they're going to be able to put a pissed off young man back in goal and hope that he is still the same player he was last season despite not wanting to be there and having no real reason beyond professionalism (and again, this is a player who the club have felt unable to play this season which does not speak well of his professionalism) to care about whether they win games and finish in the top four.

I guess I understand the desire of Manchester United fans to blindly back their club - especially on somewhere like Boards which so frequently sees threads descend into dick swinging contests with rival fans - but are there any neutrals here who don't think that Manchester United have horribly mismanaged the entire situation?

Madrid were the buying club but ManUtd should have initiated the transfer? Wasn't it clear from both statements that acceptable offer was made on the last day?

Also just because the transfer didn't happen De Gea will sulk and play to his worst? Next year there is Euro 2016 and for him to get into the squad he should be playing and at his best.

Madrid don't care? So are ManUtd. They are happy with De Gea for 1 more year and lose him for nothing and that was the stance from the club from day 1 if the acceptable offer was not made.

In the grand scheme 20 odd million counts for nothing for the club that has one of the highest turnovers.

Your assumption is that just because transfer didnt happen player will be pissed off and won't play to his best and that's where I disagree.

BTW Van Gaal said once the window shuts De Gea will play.

Beefy78

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

Please, list examples of players at any other club who have reasons beyond professionalism to want the club they play for to do well?

I think the last of them moved out to LA this summer tbh.

I'd have thought that every player would want the club to succeed so that they will succeed. They want the club to finish in the top four so that they can play in the Champions League. They want to avoid relegation so that they don't have to play in the lower leagues.

Look at QPR's continual struggles when they sign overpaid mercenaries who couldn't give a **** if they get relegated or not because they know that they won't be there the next season.

My club got promoted at Wembley a few months ago. It meant all the players got to play at a higher level and probably earn more money for it. Of course that has to be a massively motivating factor for them.

Lovely Bloke

yeah, so why is DDG different, in this instance? Why do none of them things apply to him?

rwbug

Man City signed Florian Lejeune from Girona, and loaned him straight back to Girona
Man City signed Ruben Sobrino from Ponferradina and loaned to Girona
Man City youngster Nwakali loaned to Girona

Man City seem to be bankrolling Spanish side Girona, a team Peps brother Pere Guardiola is involved with.

symbolic

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

yeah, so why is DDG different, in this instance? Why do none of them things apply to him?

Why hasn't he played this season? Has that been alluded to anywhere?

If he starts the next game then you'd imagine his head is back I the game and good to go as normal.

rwbug

If he was completely pissed off at United - Would De Gea be able to use the Webster ruling, buy out his contract and leave for free now? As free agent I guess he could sign elsewhere.

inforfun

Ah dont worry about De Gea.

Locadia of PSV didnt show up for training at PSV because he wasnt allowed to leave and is sick of sitting on the bench.
Was back in the squad for the match against Feyenoord, scored the 3-1 after coming on, kissed the badge and all is fine and forgiven again.
So all the De Gea has to do is stop a penalty against Liverpool, kiss the badge and things are all rosy again.

eagle eye

rwbug wrote: »

If he was completely pissed off at United - Would De Gea be able to use the Webster ruling, buy out his contract and leave for free now? As free agent I guess he could sign elsewhere.

There was a thing going on yesterday with some player, I can't remember who, but the situation was that he had to be released to sign up with the other club. They said that as long as the paperwork releasing him was in before the deadline that he would be free to sign for somebody else but that if he became a free agent after the deadline that he could not sign up for another team.

Luckycharms_74

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Club by club guide, I may have missed one or two more obscure names.


Arsenal

J. Reine-Adelaide € 2.5M
V. Dragomir € 100K
P. Čech € 15M

Aston Villa

Adama Traoré N/A
J. Veretout N/A
R. Gestede € 8M
José Crespo N/A
J. Ayew € 12M
J. Amavi € 11M
I. Gueye N/A
M. Bunn Free
S. Sinclair € 3.5M
M. Richards Free

Chelsea

Djilobodji € 5.5M
Hector € 5.5M
Kenedy € 8.6M
Pedro € 30M
A. Baba € 20M
D. Pantić Free
A. Begović N/A
R. Falcao Loan
Nathan € 6.2M

Crystal Palace

B. Sako Free
C. Wickham € 10M
A. McCarthy N/A
P. Bamford Loan
Y. Cabaye € 15M
M. Chambers N/A

Everton

Ramiro Funes Mori € 13M
L. Rodríguez € 500K
M. Holgate N/A
Francisco Junior N/A
D. Henen N/A
Deulofeu € 6M
T. Cleverley Free

Leicester City

N. Dyer loan
G. İnler € 7M
N. Kanté €8M
Y. Benalouane N/A
C. Fuchs Free
S. Okazaki 11M
R. Huth € 4.2M

Liverpool

C. Benteke € 46.5M
J. Milner Free
J. Gomez N/A
D. Ings Free
Roberto Firmino € 41M
N. Clyne € 17.5M
A. Bogdán Free

Manchester City

K. De Bruyne € 75M
N. Otamendi € 48M
P. Roberts N/A
F. Delph € 11.5M
R. Sterling € 60M
E. Ünal € 2M
Rony Lopes N/A

Manchester United

S. Romero Free
M. Schneiderlin € 35M
B. Schweinsteiger € 18M
M. Darmian € 18M
M. Depay € 27.5M

Newcastle United

F. Thauvin € 18.4M
. Mbemba € 10M
A. Mitrović € 21M
G. Wijnaldum € 20M

Norwich City

D. Mbokani Loan
J. Kean Free
A. Wisdom Loan
R. Brady € 9.9M
G. Dorrans N/A
Y. Mulumbu Free

Southampton

Transfers in (€40.5M)
V. van Dijk € 15M
S. Caulker Loan
J. Clasie € 12M
R. Martina € 1.5M
Cédric Soares € 5M
Juanmi € 7M
M. Stekelenburg Loan

Stoke

X. Shaqiri € 16.8M
Sergio Molina N/A
I. Afellay Free
Moha El Ouriachi Free
G. Johnson Free
M. van Ginkel Loan
S. Given Free
J. Haugaard N/A
P. Wollscheid € 3.8M
Joselu € 8M

Sunderland

F. Borini € 10M
O. Toivonen Loan
Y. M'Vila Loan
Y. Kaboul € 6M
J. Lens € 12M
A. Matthews € 3M
S. Vergini N/A
S. Coates € 2.8M
C. Mavrias N/A

Swansea City

Éder € 7M
K. Nordfeldt N/A
F. Tabanou N/A
A. Ayew Free

Spurs

Heung-Min Son € 25M
C. N'Jie € 14.1M
T. Alderweireld € 16M
K. Wimmer € 7M
K.Trippier € 4.9M
M. Veljkovic N/A
D. Alli N/A

Watford

A. Diamanti Loan
Aké Loan
S. Berghuis € 6.5M
M. Britos N/A
Jurado N/A
A. Nyom N/A
V. Behrami € 4.5M
E. Capoue N/A
J. Holebas 2.5M
C. Battocchio N/A
G. Arlauskis Free
S. Prödl Free
Ibarbo loan

No West Ham or West Brom :P

sReq | uTeK

Delighted with the signing of Martial, I've watched Monaco a good bit last season and thought he was class.

In the context of signings, he's a very good signing (Sterling, De Bryne). I think he has better vision with the ball at his feet than Memphis and makes significantly better decision than Adnan.

I would just love to have gotten a well established CB and Forward even someone like Austin, who I actually really rate as a goal scorer. That said I think Fellani up top with Rooney off him will be something we see a bit more of if we're in need of goals.

My ideal team would be to have Martial out on the right, Memphis on the left and Mata move in more central with Schdner + Herrera behind them.

I think that gives a very youthful attack and a team that can get around.
We should be playing fast football, with our wingers cutting inside opening the flanks up for Darmian and Shaw to bomb forward. With Mata pulling the strings in the 10.

I am all for controlling a game, but I would LOVE to see us break away like we used to do in the old days and go from our box to oppositions in a heartbeat.

Bringing back something like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXQpwqY0edg

Edit** Wish Saha could have stayed fit, really was top class.
Edit*** Actually just watching that there and looking at Rooney's counter attack against Arsenal, gets it halfway in his own box and out runs 3 Arsenal plays to end up finishing it, where has he gone ?

Knex*

I'm sure when it comes down to playing football, or sitting on a bench doing feck all, De Gea will quickly choose the playing football option.

Suarez had his best season for Liverpool once he got over not being allowed to join Arsenal. He's a professional footballer, he'll be fine.

ionadnapokot

Berahino is not going to be punished or banished for his strike threat.
No. He is going to be Bunished instead!! Sounds terrifying


Saido Berahino set to be bunished by West Brom for strike threat:pac:

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/saido-berahino-set-to-be-bunished-by-west-brom-for-strike-threat-693962.html

Beefy78

eagle eye wrote: »

There was a thing going on yesterday with some player, I can't remember who, but the situation was that he had to be released to sign up with the other club. They said that as long as the paperwork releasing him was in before the deadline that he would be free to sign for somebody else but that if he became a free agent after the deadline that he could not sign up for another team.

Yeah that's right, any player whose registration is held by one club at the end of the transfer window cannot be registered with another club until the next window. It is why you see a lot of players leave "by mutual consent" on or just before transfer deadline day.

I think Uefa got clubs to sign up to agree to not exploit that Webster ruling anyway. Technically someone could but none of the clubs want to start down that slippery slope and start seeing players signed for millions and then walk away from their contract.

Harry Palmr

Luckycharms_74 wrote: »

No West Ham or West Brom :P

They seem to have got lost in an edit! pac: Still no one cares about them

They are all in. Phew.

Giggsy11

Manchester United ✔ @ManUtd

David De Gea has signed a new four-year contract at #mufc with an option to extend for a further year.

ManUtd trolling Madrid so badly

Maybe if Madrid are generous, they might pay small fee to sign him in Jan :P

Unearthly

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

United are sitting with a busted flush and no way of buying back in.

Hello, how are you today?

Giggsy11

rarnes1 wrote: »

Madrid the trolling experts.

I'd say Utd won't be in a rush to do business with them again!

Robbed them with Di Maria, and then Ramos flirting all summer. Then this.

Gangsters!

That ended well. Gangsters, trolled so hard that they forgot to make a proper bid

Pepe LeFrits

Suspect the new deal is a compromise between club and player; De Gea wants to play and the club won't want to lose him for nothing, but I reckon he'll be off next summer for an already agreed fee. The timing of his 'change of heart' suggests that De Gea hasn't really changed his mind about moving on.

Rayne Wooney

United the trolling experts

Embarrassing for Madrid

Francie Barrett

Seems to me like De Gea was maybe not being offered the contract he wanted a few months ago, saw the attention he was getting from Madrid and then started playing silly buggers. I'd say when his agent put the feelers out to Madrid though, maybe the offer from their end wasn't quite as lucrative as he thought (we know Madrid generally like to keep their powder for attackers). With that interest from Madrid sharply bringing the players desirability into focus, United stopped mucking around and made an offer he couldn't refuse (200k a week by all accounts). United got their man, but really, they should not have allowed it to get to this situation.

glued

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

Suspect the new deal is a compromise between club and player; De Gea wants to play and the club won't want to lose him for nothing, but I reckon he'll be off next summer for an already agreed fee. The timing of his 'change of heart' suggests that De Gea hasn't really changed his mind about moving on.

De Gea won't be joining Real Madrid as long as Mendes is his agent and Perez is president. Mendes lost out on a couple of million over the deal all thanks to Real Madrid's inability to complete the transfer. Total incompetence from Real Madrid and I'm delighted for Perez.

Even if Mendes and Perez can reconcile then United still keep De Gea for at least a year and get a better transfer fee for him.

Giggsy11

Francie Barrett wrote: »

Seems to me like De Gea was maybe not being offered the contract he wanted a few months ago, saw the attention he was getting from Madrid and then started playing silly buggers. I'd say when his agent put the feelers out to Madrid though, maybe the offer from their end wasn't quite as lucrative as he thought (we know Madrid generally like to keep their powder for attackers). With that interest from Madrid sharply bringing the players desirability into focus, United stopped mucking around and made an offer he couldn't refuse (200k a week by all accounts). United got their man, but really, they should not have allowed it to get to this situation.

United offered similar deal which he didn't sign and he signed deal with Madrid already but the fee was the hick up and reason for transfer failure.

Mickeroo

Pepe LeFrits wrote: »

Suspect the new deal is a compromise between club and player; De Gea wants to play and the club won't want to lose him for nothing, but I reckon he'll be off next summer for an already agreed fee. The timing of his 'change of heart' suggests that De Gea hasn't really changed his mind about moving on.

This is practically the norm at this stage, would be surprising if he stayed beyond next summer imo.

TheDoctor

Madrid can stuff their 29 million, try doubling it and come back next summer.

Good luck lads!

Trond

Mickeroo wrote: »

This is practically the norm at this stage, would be surprising if he stayed beyond next summer imo.

Hopefully Rafa will have seen them into a respectable 3rd place finish by that stage