Humans - Channel 4

OldMrBrennan83

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Geniass

wil wrote: »

First noticed Gemma Chan in IT Crowd, female Spock I think:D

Spocktacular

I prefer her with the green luminous eyes. Can we make that a thing.

AMKC

I think it has potential. Was surprised that it is based in the present but I suppose that is down to the tight budget they have. Would have been cool if it could have been maybe 20 or 30 years in the future.

Lisha

AMKC wrote: »

I think it has potential. Was surprised that it is based in the present but I suppose that is down to the tight budget they have. Would have been cool if it could have been maybe 20 or 30 years in the future.

I like the fact that its based now. It makes it weirder and more troubling to think about.

AMKC

It kind of reminds me of Ex Machina. There was a fantastic discussion there about the sexualization of robots.

AMKC wrote: »

I think it has potential. Was surprised that it is based in the present but I suppose that is down to the tight budget they have. Would have been cool if it could have been maybe 20 or 30 years in the future.

TBH, I doubt we're even 20-30 years away from having them. If anything, it's much closer than that. It's quite scary how far ahead we are with AI and robotics in general.

Geniass

Deleted User wrote: »

There was a fantastic discussion there about the sexualization of robots.

Don't call them robots, that's too cold and impersonal:)

EoghanIRL

Promising start.

Mr.Nice Guy

I thought it was pretty good. I thought Anita was the most interesting part of the show. Interested to see where it goes from here.

Deleted User wrote:

TBH, I doubt we're even 20-30 years away from having them. If anything, it's much closer than that. It's quite scary how far ahead we are with AI and robotics in general.

I'd like to think so, but I'd be sceptical. Isn't it absurdly difficult to get them to move in a human-like manner? All of the current ones I've seen have the mobility of Hans Moleman.

Cold War Kid

Really enjoyed it. Likely Blade Runner influenced (the soundtrack is quite Vangelis-esque in parts too).
Eerie, dystopian... mixed up with just mundane stuff like going to the supermarket and doing the laundry.

There are so many of those dystopian thingies over the past five or so years, but this one, to me, is that bit more compelling.

ScumLord

Deleted User wrote: »

TBH, I doubt we're even 20-30 years away from having them. If anything, it's much closer than that. It's quite scary how far ahead we are with AI and robotics in general.

They're already hitting the factory floor in the form of a robot that can be just shown how to do a task. By the person it's replacing probably.

PhiloCypher

Cold War Kid wrote: »

Really enjoyed it. Likely Blade Runner influenced (the soundtrack is quite Vangelis-esque in parts too).
Eerie, dystopian... mixed up with just mundane stuff like going to the supermarket and doing the laundry.

There are so many of those dystopian thingies over the past five or so years, but this one, to me, is that bit more compelling.

I actually found the futuristic tinkling soundtrack a bit too on the nose and at odds with the mundane present day backdrop.

Other then that I quite liked it(the show)

FloatingVoter

ScumLord wrote: »

They're already hitting the factory floor in the form of a robot that can be just shown how to do a task. By the person it's replacing probably.

Right, so next week I'm losing my job to this heap of metal. Now will I teach it to do my job as well as me or will I show it ways to murder my scumbag boss. It's a dilemma, Ted.

BoJack Horseman

Its a bleak future Channel 4 portrays.....

Humanoid robots everywhere & 2008 Astra's & Yaris's still rolling around.

Curious direction for technological development.

Skid X

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Its a bleak future Channel 4 portrays.....

Humanoid robots everywhere & 2008 Astra's & Yaris's still rolling around.

Curious direction for technological development.

I think that's the point of it, though.

Apart from the androids everything else is kept the same as it is today, to illustrate that smart robots might be here sooner that people expect.

I think it's a decent show, looking forward to how develops.

Cold War Kid

PhiloCypher wrote: »

I actually found the futuristic tinkling soundtrack a bit too on the nose and at odds with the mundane present day backdrop.

I actually liked that juxtaposition.

I'd say we're under a decade away (if not much less) from these kind of robots and AI being commercially available. If you watch it developing right now, it's utterly terrifying. Just pray that the Singularity never comes.

EoghanIRL

Singularity reminds me of this.

I reckon reaching this level with robots is like accelerating something to the speed of light, the closer you get the more difficult it becomes.

Mezcita

Deleted User wrote: »

I'd say we're under a decade away (if not much less) from these kind of robots and AI being commercially available. If you watch it developing right now, it's utterly terrifying. Just pray that the Singularity never comes.

Think ten years is pretty optimistic to be honest. This looks a long way from saucy maid robots who can dodge bullets and make lasagne for dinner.

On the side of AI though, that's where it is getting kinda scary.

ScumLord

FloatingVoter wrote: »

Right, so next week I'm losing my job to this heap of metal. Now will I teach it to do my job as well as me or will I show it ways to murder my scumbag boss. It's a dilemma, Ted.

I'm sure it will murder you boss eventually either way so I wouldn't worry about it. All robots are homicidal.

Deleted User wrote: »

I'd say we're under a decade away (if not much less) from these kind of robots and AI being commercially available. If you watch it developing right now, it's utterly terrifying. Just pray that the Singularity never comes.

Google and Facebook are battling it out behind the scenes trying to make the most advanced AI. They've both been buying up AI companies. They will be using the AI for searching though, it won't be the malevolent sentient creature we're used to in movies it will just be a more aware search system. That takes up a few warehouses.

The problem with a sentient robot is probably the brain won't fit into a body that's smaller than an airplane and with all our mechanical prowess muscles still have some major advantages over the mechanicals in robots. They can carry out pre planned operations with stunning accuracy but throw them into a changing environment and their laughably slow.

I think AI's (Artifical Intelligence: I'm sure will become a politically incorrect term for them at some stage) will always be big and at best they'll control robots remotely. The problem I see with AI is that we might make them sentient so they have the processing power to do certain jobs, but once they become sentient we can't really force them to do those jobs anymore.

FloatingVoter

Humans invented chopsticks and wheels millennia ago. Those tools have yet to take over humanity. The fact that a few nerds have invented some new tools does not make said nerds creators of anything more useful than a chopstick.
A species so idiotic it can't operate a washing machine therefore needs a more complicated machine to operate the washing machine is on the way out all by itself.
And chopsticks and wheels don't endlessly crash or need upgrades. My money is on the cockroaches (they're behind the washing machine, dummy).

NIMAN

AI my ass.

Computers are thick. What is happening in that TV show is hundreds of years away.

Go Harvey Go

ScumLord wrote: »

I'm sure it will murder you boss eventually either way so I wouldn't worry about it. All robots are homicidal.

"Command link severed. Default setting. Crush. Kill. Destroy."

"Children, help! He's... killing... me!"

"YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!!!!!!"

ScumLord

NIMAN wrote: »

AI my ass.

Computers are thick. What is happening in that TV show is hundreds of years away.

Probably not hundred of years away. The advances being made today will allow for rapid development in the future. They reckon within 50 years you'll have a direct link between the internet and your brain, nanotechnology will be boosting your immune system, AI will be smarter than a human and rapidly becoming smarter than every human combined.

There are many technologies in labs around the world that are just going through the process of making them manufacturable at an affordable price. It's not so much the technology doesn't exist it's just that it can't be made cheap enough for the general public yet.

FloatingVoter

The show has got one thing right. Watch the porn industry. They will not market robots as tools to raise your kids, they will be marketed as tools to raise your tool.
The great "invention" of the last 25 years - the internet itself - has two main functions.....free stuff and porn. The rest is window dressing. Before you reply in the negative, check your browser history...if you're not at it, your kids are.

MrJones1973

Nowadays Smut is de rigueur but I think the scene was to illustrate the abuse of the syths.

FloatingVoter

Mrwhite1970 wrote: »

Nowadays Smut is de rigueur but I think the scene was to illustrate the syths debasement. rigueur

Agreed about the placement of the scene (and her leaving her pain chip or whatever on)- but it would have been a lesser show without it. And the lady getting carried off for her eh...massage by the manbot while hubby looked on in another scene showed that Sisters can exploit it for themselves.
It's not terribly deep - just a show about how all us posh liberals could bring back slavery tomorrow if the TV told us it was all cool and for our own good.

enfant terrible

Deleted User wrote: »

TBH, I doubt we're even 20-30 years away from having them. If anything, it's much closer than that. It's quite scary how far ahead we are with AI and robotics in general.

This is currently the pinnacle of AI

http://imgur.com/gallery/K4mWF2n

Polly Sonic

ScumLord wrote: »

Probably not hundred of years away. The advances being made today will allow for rapid development in the future. They reckon within 50 years you'll have a direct link between the internet and your brain, nanotechnology will be boosting your immune system, AI will be smarter than a human and rapidly becoming smarter than every human combined.

There are many technologies in labs around the world that are just going through the process of making them manufacturable at an affordable price. It's not so much the technology doesn't exist it's just that it can't be made cheap enough for the general public yet.

Google is technically smarter than any single human being on the planet and has been for many years. Self awareness and cognitive behaviour is a million miles away from that kind of "smart". It's centuries away if even possible.

Following commands is all we will ever see in our lifetime.

duridian

Reminded me of this from CES 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doF43M_3Jf8

The show's analogies, slavery/where does humanity (and life) begin and end etc. also remind me greatly of something that was done on Star Trek TNG with a Data focussed storyline. Picard's defence of Data was one of Picard's most epic courtroom speeches.
http://en.memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/The_Measure_Of_A_Man_(episode)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjuQRCG_sUw