Ulster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread II

CatFromHue

I look forward to AWEC being turfed out of the crowd for telling everyone to behave!!

awec

RobbieRuns wrote: »

Hardly the required behaviour of a moderator ?

I'm a hallion really.

.ak

RobbieRuns wrote: »

Hardly the required behaviour of a moderator ?

You've never heard awec's "abuse"...

RobbieRuns

Couldn't resist that one awec !

bilston

No mention here yet but anyway tonight sees Andrew Trimble win his 190th cap for Ulster which will also make him the most capped player in Ulster's history. A fantastic achievement and hopefully he surpasses the 200 mark before long and goes on to 250-300 caps before the end of his career. I've never hidden the fact that he has been pretty much my favourite Ulster player over the last 10 years (Fez and now Hendo push him close mind) and he has been a joy to watch in the white of Ulster. Hope he has a big night and grabs a couple of tries.

Anyway here is the full team...

15 Louis Ludik
14 Andrew Trimble
13 Luke Marshall
12 Stuart McCloskey
11 Craig Gilroy
10 Peter Nelson
9 Paul Marshall
1 Andy Warwick
2 Rob Herring (c)
3 Wiebhan Herbst
4 Peter Browne
5 Dan Tuohy
6 Robbie Diack
7 Sean Reidy
8 Roger Wilson

16 Paul Jackson
17 Callum Black
18 Bronson Ross
19 Lewis Stevenson
20 Clive Ross
21 Dave Shannahan
22 Sam Arnold
23 Rory Scholes

Good back line, strong front row, crap everything else. Only Arnold excites on the bench, I wouldn't be that shocked if we lost this.

Remember folks 6.05 KO ce soir.

unce09f

Rory Scholes is an exciting player.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

190 is great for Trimble. He'll need to rack up a few more if he wants to keep the record though. Gilroy will top it, eventually.

bilston

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

190 is great for Trimble. He'll need to rack up a few more if he wants to keep the record though. Gilroy will top it, eventually.

Yeah Gilroy is already over 100 caps and he is only 23 or 24 plus hasn't been first choice for a lot of his career.

Gilroy will smash the record unless something goes very badly for him.

Nelson aside (who's done okay all things considerd @ 10) that's a very decent backline to be able to put out during a RWC!

bilston

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Gilroy will smash the record unless something goes very badly for him.

Well I suppose he could leave Ulster!

irishbucsfan

Was there a change to to the team or has Stuart Olding grown 5 inches and put on 3 or 4 stone?


EDIT: Ignore me, for some reason when I read bilstons team I thought Olding was involved, I'm going completely mad.

irishbucsfan

Dan Tuohy opens the scoring for Ulster with pick and drive. Soft defense from Treviso but Tuohy looks to be getting through a fair amount of work here.

bilston

Just saw some an example of something McCloskey needs to iron out of his game. He gets the ball on his 22, a good 6 or 7 metres in field and he gets driven into touch.

irishbucsfan

bilston wrote: »

Just saw some an example of something McCloskey needs to iron out of his game. He gets the ball on his 22, a good 6 or 7 metres in field and he gets driven into touch.

Don't worry, a bit of time with Joe Schmidt and he'll get that sorted :cool:

bilston

Ref takes a tumble...ooops

bilston

Lovely wee burst of acceleration from Peter Nelson there.

bilston

Try for Reidy.

Look at that England. Five metre lineout, throw to 6 and wham bam thank you mam.

irishbucsfan

Treviso are very very weak around the fringes.

bilston

Reidy looks decent. I've said this for a while. He gets unfairly mentioned in the same sentence as Clive Ross, but he is a far better player than Ross. No world beater, but it's harsh to put in the same bracket as Ross.

bilston

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Treviso are very very weak around the fringes.

They just look weak full stop.

bilston

Treviso down to 13 here.

irishbucsfan

Treviso making this pretty easy for Ulster here. Bonus point looks inevitable.

bilston

Too easy for Paul Marshall

bilston

Treviso are terrible.

I can't think of a single positive for any of their play at all.

bilston

Not sure why we got into a kicking battle there.

irishbucsfan

Wooooowwwwww

Gilroy cuts Treviso to pieces. Won't help his international ambitions with another needless individual wonder try.

bilston

Aye that's just sensational from Gilroy

bilston

Lovely break from Paul Marshall

irishbucsfan

Foot well and truly off the gas, Paul Marshall playing exactly like Paul Marshall.

bilston

Looks like the half time team talk has worked wonders again

bilston

Seriously why the hell is the third quarter of every single game Ulster play so poor? It can't be a coincidence.

bilston

Nelson's touchfinders are great.

bilston

Well done Browne

34-7 after 56 mins

bilston

Beautiful try. McCloskey with the offliad, Gilroy with the line

irishbucsfan

I turned over to watch the Munster game becuase the first 50 minutes satisfied my "McCloskey for Ireland" needs, however glad to hear he's still making an impact.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Wee Paddy's brother on

bilston

First Ulster try for Stevenson.

Nelson really does look the part here. Obviously Treviso are muck, but it's good to see.

bilston

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Wee Paddy's brother on

Funny how one brother is a 10 and the other is a hooker. Poles apart.

Then look at the Wallaces and the Youngs brothers

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

bilston wrote: »

Funny how one brother is a 10 and the other is a hooker. Poles apart.

Then look at the Wallaces and the Youngs brothers

Paul's the older one so he probably robbed all of Paddy's food.

bilston

irishbucsfan wrote: »

I turned over to watch the Munster game becuase the first 50 minutes satisfied my "McCloskey for Ireland" needs, however glad to hear he's still making an impact.

The line, power and offload for Gilroy's second try was a delight to see. Imagine Henshaw, Earls and Fitzgerald etc running off those offloads. Of course Joe will never allow it!

Utah_Saint

Gilroy destroyed any chance of being selected for Ireland by scoring two tries tonight

mfceiling

That was enjoyable to watch.

McCloskey is a serious unit. He takes at least 2 players in contact every time yet manages to get his hands free for the offload as well. He's a bit like henderson only twice as quick.

Gilroy's try will be up there for try of the season - so explosive off both feet. Nelson is doing well as a stand in 10.

Need to push on from here though. No point sticking almost 50 on a poor Treviso and then playing shíte on the next outing.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Can we parachute McCloskey into the Irish squad for the Italy game?

bilston

Overall I'm reasonably happy, but there were three areas that disappointed me.

1) The usual third quarter malaise.
2) Getting into a kicking battle when we should have ran it back a bit more.
3) The line out wasn't great, although if Treviso did one thing reasonably well it was compete on our ball.

The post half time downtime is baffling. It happens if you very game we play, what goes on at half time? It's just so weird.

On the positive side I was happy with Warwick, Herbst, Tuohy, Reidy, the half backs, McCloskey and especially Gilroy. They all had good games.

Gilroy scored two great tries. The first one was spectacular, but in many ways the second one was even better as he picked a great line and showed great power and pace at exactly the right moment, along with his improved defence and improved fielding of the ball and it seems six or seven weeks in the Ireland camp have done him the world of good. If he keeps this up it will be hard for Joe to ignore him moving forward.

Utah_Saint

bilston wrote: »

Overall I'm reasonably happy, but there were three areas that disappointed me.

1) The usual third quarter malaise.
2) Getting into a kicking battle when we should have ran it back a bit more.
3) The line out wasn't great, although if Treviso did one thing reasonably well it was compete on our ball.

The post half time downtime is baffling. It happens if you very game we play, what goes on at half time? It's just so weird.

On the positive side I was happy with Warwick, Herbst, Tuohy, Reidy, the half backs, McCloskey and especially Gilroy. They all had good games.

Gilroy scored two great tries. The first one was spectacular, but in many ways the second one was even better as he picked a great line and showed great power and pace at exactly the right moment, along with his improved defence and improved fielding of the ball and it seems six or seven weeks in the Ireland camp have done him the world of good. If he keeps this up it will be hard for Joe to ignore him moving forward.

1) doak had a chance to speak to the players. This manifested itself in a poor 3rd quarter.
2) doakball at its finest
3)ahhhh...doak?

Happy for big Stu and gilly. Lets hope their try scoring and offloading doesn't hurt their ire chances ;-)

total former

bilston wrote: »

Gilroy scored two great tries. The first one was spectacular, but in many ways the second one was even better as he picked a great line and showed great power and pace at exactly the right moment, along with his improved defence and improved fielding of the ball and it seems six or seven weeks in the Ireland camp have done him the world of good. If he keeps this up it will be hard for Joe to ignore him moving forward.

Gilroy has two problems:
1) whether he is still in the team when Bowe comes back.
2) he needs injuries to the existing Ireland wingers to get an opportunity (like Zebo did).

He will need a combination of luck and continued good performances to have a shot in the next 12 months.

bilston

total former wrote: »

Gilroy has two problems:
1) whether he is still in the team when Bowe comes back.
2) he needs injuries to the existing Ireland wingers to get an opportunity (like Zebo did).

He will need a combination of luck and continued good performances to have a shot in the next 12 months.

I wouldn't disagree with any of that. He will get plenty of games for Ulster but it's the games against Saracens and Toulouse that he needs to be starting.

I wouldn't be that surprised to see him move to FB when Tommy returns which could get him big games for Ulster but harm his Ireland chances.

blackdog1

Ive watched Ulster a bit this season and last and I've come to the conclusion that you have a system that when it works you can beat anyone but when it doesn't you look ****e. The problem I see is that you can never keep the ball more than a couple of phases because the rucking isn't good enough then you kick and kick badly. Last night you kept the ball through multiple phases and treviso kicked poorly to you. Some of the quality of play was brilliant last night. If Ulster can keep the quality of their ruck ball the same as last night other teams will be in trouble

mfceiling

Good point on the aimless kicking bilston. We started a kicking ping pong at them when they had 13 men on the pitch!! Seriously? That was a time to keep the ball in hand, go through a few phases and look for space when their defence was going to be stretched.

On a side note I was delighted for big Stevenson to score a try!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNsy-oeF2oU

Gilroy's try :eek: