Ulster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread II

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Deleted User wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNsy-oeF2oU

Gilroy's try :eek:

I love seeing players dance around tacklers. It feels like you don't see it that much anymore, even from wingers. It's like they all just try to run over the top of defenders or are in so much space that it's just a straight foot race for the line.

jacothelad

Deleted User wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNsy-oeF2oU

Gilroy's try :eek:

Shockingly bad play there. He should have formed a ruck and box kicked instead of playing rugbyscoring a try. Far too consistent there for Joe. He needs to watch how Ireland's backs gave a master class in Schmidtball yesterday. Perhaps if he tied his bootlaces together he might become more of a team player......:D

Edit...I am joking btw. Everyone knows who the best wingers are and why. Bowe, Earls and Trimble. Simply being good at scoring tries isn't enough any more....well, in the current incarnation of rugby. Some people seem to think that he is a small guy...he isn't. Just over 6' and just over 14 stones. Not huge but certainly not tiny...about the same size as Keet.

irishbucsfan

Paddy McAllister making his debut for Gloucester this weekend at loosehead beside Hibbard and Afoa.

He's had a tough few years with injuries and everything else, I really hope the change of scenery does him well. Could be a great player for them this year.

Scythica

Gilroy signed a 2 year extension too so I hear!

mogwai81

Ulster: Louis Ludik; Craig Gilroy, Sammy Arnold, Stuart McCloskey, Andrew Trimble; Peter Nelson, Paul Marshall; Callum Black, Rob Herring (captain), Wiehahn Herbst, Dan Tuohy, Franco van der Merwe, Roger Wilson, Sean Reidy, Nick Williams.
Replacements: John Andrew, Andrew Warwick, Bronson Ross, Lewis Stevenson, Willie Faloon, David Shanahan, Ian Humphreys, Rory Scholes.

postitnote

and we just keep churning out new centres

I suppose i should be glad to see iHumph back, hopefully he's learned how to tackle.

In potentially tighter games it will also be nice to have a slightly more reliable place kicker in the team.

Game number 150 for Paul Marshall, congrats to him.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Scythica wrote: »

Gilroy signed a 2 year extension too so I hear!

Here is is talking about it (basically answering the same question 3 times)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvf5Df2nf-c

bilston

mogwai81 wrote: »

Ulster: Louis Ludik; Craig Gilroy, Sammy Arnold, Stuart McCloskey, Andrew Trimble; Peter Nelson, Paul Marshall; Callum Black, Rob Herring (captain), Wiehahn Herbst, Dan Tuohy, Franco van der Merwe, Roger Wilson, Sean Reidy, Nick Williams.
Replacements: John Andrew, Andrew Warwick, Bronson Ross, Lewis Stevenson, Willie Faloon, David Shanahan, Ian Humphreys, Rory Scholes.

If we had a goalkicker that would be a decent XV.

Journeyman_1

Has McCloskey not done well with his kicking so far?

ulster_Beef

Journeyman_1 wrote: »

Has McCloskey not done well with his kicking so far?

Well, during warm ups he can hit the corner flag or memorial clock at Ravenspan and then he will slot one from the touch line next time. Straight after that you will see him put out several bulbs in the spot light and then slot one down the middle next...

Hes unreal too... the centre version of Iain Henderson

ulster_Beef

bayern1900 wrote: »

you realise he isn't from ulster?
also that ulster have yet to produce an international centre of note yet?

This guy... lol.

Have you watched much of Ulster over the years? Olding shows amazing promise and then gets injured, twice. McCloskey plays every game for Ulster as to how Henshaw played vs France.... They are verging on breaking through but right now Ireland/ Ulster both have an abundance in backs, which isnt good for the individual person. Surely producing a player doesnt necessarily account for them being born here, but rather how Ulster bring them on through the academy?

awec

ulster_Beef wrote: »

This guy... lol.

Have you watched much of Ulster over the years? Olding shows amazing promise and then gets injured, twice. McCloskey plays every game for Ulster as to how Henshaw played vs France. Surely producing a player doesnt necessarily account for them being born here, but rather how Ulster bring them on through the academy?

The post you responded to is gone, the guy is a banned re-reg beefy.

case885

bayern1900 wrote:

you realise he isn't from ulster? also that ulster have yet to produce an international centre of note yet?

They've developed him which is the most important factor.

bilston

Journeyman_1 wrote: »

Has McCloskey not done well with his kicking so far?

Hot and cold. He can nail from the touchline and miss them from in front of the posts.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

McCloskey said after the first match this season where he kicked that they basically drew straws to see who would kick. He had done some at schools level but hadn't been kicking since. I'd say he'll be delighted once Humphries is starting again or Jackson gets back from the World Cup.

awec

Doak OUT OUT OUT.

RobbieRuns

Not a great game to watch. Don't look like they are enjoying themselves.

Utah_Saint

Typical doak away performance


Anyway this should cheer you up https://instagram.com/p/8dzlTpSQ3k/

bilston

Utah_Saint wrote: »

Typical doak away performance


Anyway this should cheer you up https://instagram.com/p/8dzlTpSQ3k/

He seems to be making a good recovery. Hopefully not too long to go until he returns. I think the talk was January a while back.

bilston

Well the world of rugby never stops.

If there is one positive today it is that we will have Jackson and Cave back for Cardiff next week. I assume the rest will get a couple of weeks off.

Alas it looks like we won't have Bowe for a while to add to the loss of Payne.

Backline of

Marshall
Jackson
Gilroy
McCloskey
Cave
Trimble
Ludik

Pienaar probably back the week after I would imagine.

MJohnston

When do we get Kiss back, do you reckon?

bilston

MJohnston wrote: »

When do we get Kiss back, do you reckon?

Not sure when his contract starts. Oyonnax game is about 12th November I think so hopefully we will have him by then and preferably a week or so before.

irishbucsfan

Luke marshall out for 6 weeks with ligament injury in his hand.

He wouldn't have been able to stop the McCloskey hype train but he at least could have helped him carry his bags about.

bilston

irishbucsfan wrote: »

Luke marshall out for 6 weeks with ligament injury in his hand.

He wouldn't have been able to stop the McCloskey hype train but he at least could have helped him carry his bags about.

You have to feel sorry for Luke at this stage.

mfceiling

Utah_Saint wrote: »

Typical doak away performance


Anyway this should cheer you up https://instagram.com/p/8dzlTpSQ3k/

The initial burst of acceleration from him is seriously fast. Would be delighted to see him get a run of games completely injury free.

postitnote

There's never been a doubt about Olding's ability to run in straight lines and i'm glad to see he's regained that speed. It's changing direction that seems to scupper him.

So with all this RWC disappointment and an Ulster team blowing hot and cold, who would be your picks from other provinces, to strengthen Ireland and Ulster?

Hopefully the success of Ireland and the success of Ulster aren't mutually exclusive.

Do we need to start farming out some of our centres for back row players?

Utah_Saint

postitnote wrote: »

There's never been a doubt about Olding's ability to run in straight lines and i'm glad to see he's regained that speed. It's changing direction that seems to scupper him.

So with all this RWC disappointment and an Ulster team blowing hot and cold, who would be your picks from other provinces, to strengthen Ireland and Ulster?

Hopefully the success of Ireland and the success of Ulster aren't mutually exclusive.

Do we need to start farming out some of our centres for back row players?

The entire backrow from any other province. Ours is seriously poor. Made worse if Henderson is now a lock. Scrum half which is a huge problem across Ireland, when ruan goes we are screwed. Why did we not use ruan to help us bring through a quality understudy?

Get James hart back here ta fook

errlloyd

Apparently John hardie still has no team. Would another backrow help in ulster?

Utah_Saint

errlloyd wrote: »

Apparently John hardie still has no team. Would another backrow help in ulster?

We don't have spaces available for NIQ players unfortunately

errlloyd

Utah_Saint wrote: »

We don't have spaces available for NIQ players unfortunately

Is that still a thing. Munster signed a Uruguayan like?

errlloyd

errlloyd wrote: »

Is that still a thing. Munster signed a Uruguayan like?

He'll be considered a medical joker and Ulster are already over-quota.

CIARAN_BOYLE

Deleted User wrote: »

He'll be considered a medical joker and Ulster are already over-quota.

He may be Botha's replacement

errlloyd

Hardie signed for Edinburgh today, they'll be happy. The pro12 was looking creeky a few years back, but the Scottish sides and Connacht have really added strength to the field of late, shame about the Italians.

bilston

errlloyd wrote: »

Hardie signed for Edinburgh today, they'll be happy. The pro12 was looking creeky a few years back, but the Scottish sides and Connacht have really added strength to the field of late, shame about the Italians.

Yeah, Edinburgh are going great guns. The league is more competitive but whether the standard has improved, stagnated or got worse is hard to say.

irishbucsfan

bilston wrote: »

Yeah, Edinburgh are going great guns. The league is more competitive but whether the standard has improved, stagnated or got worse is hard to say.

Especially hard to say with all of the internationals missing. Let's see how things look at the end of the year. Glasgow have been the best side in the league for the past 2 years and they've been very entertaining.

phog

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

He may be Botha's replacement

He might be but currently he's being considered cover for the injured Archer.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

I see Jackson and Cave are back in the squad for this weekend. Must be a weird feeling. Could have been preparing for a World Cup SF (in whatever capacity) instead preparing for Cardiff.

MJohnston

Hopefully just glad to be back with a shot of actually playing a game of rugby!

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

I see Jackson and Cave are back in the squad for this weekend. Must be a weird feeling. Could have been preparing for a World Cup SF (in whatever capacity) instead preparing for Cardiff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3BDzwTSq2g

Utah_Saint

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

I see Jackson and Cave are back in the squad for this weekend. Must be a weird feeling. Could have been preparing for a World Cup SF (in whatever capacity) instead preparing for Cardiff.

Where are Scholes and Nelson?

Really hope these guys can kick on a bit this year. There was high hopes for Scholes at underage.

CatFromHue

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

I see Jackson and Cave are back in the squad for this weekend. Must be a weird feeling. Could have been preparing for a World Cup SF (in whatever capacity) instead preparing for Cardiff.

(15-9): Louis Ludik; Andrew Trimble, Sammy Arnold, Stuart McCloskey, Craig Gilroy; Ian Humphreys, Paul Marshall; (1-8): Callum Black, Rob Herring (captain), Wiehahn Herbst, Lewis Stevenson, Franco van der Merwe, Roger Wilson, Sean Reidy, Nick Williams;

Replacements (16-23): John Andrew, Andrew Warwick, Ricky Lutton, Peter Browne, Willie Faloon, David Shanahan, Paddy Jackson, Darren Cave.

Tuohy out with concussion

Any news on how long Bowe will be out?

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

MJohnston wrote: »

Hopefully just glad to be back with a shot of actually playing a game of rugby!

Yeah, probably a lot easier for some than others.

On the flip side of that you've got Kane Douglas who should have been lining out for Leinster in half empty stadiums these past few weeks and instead he's playing in a World Cup SF.

Scythica

Sorry if this has been covered but how long is it until we see Kiss join the setup and realistically what do we expect him to bring for this season? Mid-season wouldn't be the best time to try and change defensive strategies or whatnot right?

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Scythica wrote: »

Sorry if this has been covered but how long is it until we see Kiss join the setup and realistically what do we expect him to bring for this season? Mid-season wouldn't be the best time to try and change defensive strategies or whatnot right?

Follow up question.... is Kiss' presence likely to increase Ulster players chances of getting into the Ireland squad? It always seems to me that the ability to defend, or lack of ability, is what gets some players into the squad over others. Purely in terms of attack Gilroy must be one of the best players in the Provinces and yet he's very much on the outer fringes of the National set up. Is a season with Kiss full time likely to change this?

CatFromHue

I think Bilston said he was going to start next week.

What do we expect him to bring? A narrow defensive pattern for a start

It's a bit of an unknown what he's going to bring as he's never been a head coach before.

Scythica

He's a DoR right not head coach I think. Will be interesting to see actually how him and Doak work together and how it differs from Anscombe and Humph.

accidentprone1

Lads, what does a director of rugby actually do?

bilston

CatFromHue wrote: »

I think Bilston said he was going to start next week.

What do we expect him to bring? A narrow defensive pattern for a start

It's a bit of an unknown what he's going to bring as he's never been a head coach before.

1st November I think, but I'm not certain.

I would imagine he hasn't been a stranger with the Ulster set up over the last 12 months anyway so I doubt he is going to make massive changes straight away. I'm looking forward to having him at Ulster.

bilston

accidentprone1 wrote: »

Lads, what does a director of rugby actually do?

Depends on the job spec. Humph as DoR had no coaching role, I'm pretty sure that won't be the case for Kiss.

bilston

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Follow up question.... is Kiss' presence likely to increase Ulster players chances of getting into the Ireland squad? It always seems to me that the ability to defend, or lack of ability, is what gets some players into the squad over others. Purely in terms of attack Gilroy must be one of the best players in the Provinces and yet he's very much on the outer fringes of the National set up. Is a season with Kiss full time likely to change this?

It might help a few Ulster players like Gilroy just because he knows what Joe wants and he can pass that onto Gilroy.

I have to say as brillant as Gilroy is going forward he did miss a bad tackle last weekend which cost us a try and the game. He needs to iron that out of his game. Kiss might be the man to do it.