Ireland vs Barbarians, Thomond Pk, 28/05/15 19:45, Sky SP1

Tox56

molloyjh wrote: »

Ireland Squad:

Loosehead: |McGrath, Bent
Hooker:|Strauss, Herring
Tighthead:|Ross, Furlong
Lock:|Toner, Touhy, Marshall
Blindside:|Ruddock, Diack
Openside:|Henry, Murphy
Number 8:|Heaslip, Conan
|
Scrum Half:|Reddan, McGrath
Out Half:|Jackson, Madigan
Inside Centre:|Marshall, Reid, McCloskey
Outside Centre: |O'Shea
Wing: |D Kearney, Gilroy
Full Back: |R Kearney, Kelleher


Obviously Joe is looking at one of the 12s as a 13, but not sure which one. McCloskey maybe?

Serious company in the back 3 for Kelleher there

.ak

I'd like to see Reid and COS used at some point, they're very good together as a unit.

irishbucsfan

The selection in the backline is very interesting. I think we'll see Reddan/Jackson starting at 9/10, I'd think we could see Reid/Marshall at 12/13. I'd be really interested to see that selection.

Interesting that, I think, we're going to see Dave Kearney playing on the right wing...

awec

The Irish Rugby Facebook is always good for a laugh when these things are announced.

Zzippy

awec wrote: »

The Irish Rugby Facebook is always good for a laugh when these things are announced.

Do you think the players look at the FB page and bitch that there are more comments from other province's fans than theirs?

jacothelad

molloyjh wrote: »

Ireland Squad:

Loosehead: |McGrath, Bent
Hooker:|Strauss, Herring
Tighthead:|Ross, Furlong
Lock:|Toner, Touhy, Marshall
Blindside:|Ruddock, Diack
Openside:|Henry, Murphy
Number 8:|Heaslip, Conan
|
Scrum Half:|Reddan, McGrath
Out Half:|Jackson, Madigan
Inside Centre:|Marshall, Reid, McCloskey
Outside Centre: |O'Shea
Wing: |D Kearney, Gilroy
Full Back: |R Kearney, Kelleher

Obviously Joe is looking at one of the 12s as a 13, but not sure which one. McCloskey maybe?

Luke Marshall is actually a 10 / 13 who got moved to 12 as Ulster had Cave there playing very well.

Mahatma Geansai wrote: »

You'd struggle to piece together a good Pro12 backline out of that lot. The pack should be decent enough, but it certainly won't be a team that will draw in a big crowd.

:pac::pac:

total former wrote: »

Strong team possible then:

McGrath Strauss Ross
Tuohy Toner
Ruddock Henry Heaslip
Reddan Jackson
Gilroy McCloskey Marshall* Kearney
Kearney

That's not a bad side, it's only the centres that aren't really in the running for the RWC squad (yet). I've gone with *Marshall at 13 because he's the most likely of the 12s to play there, it would be a major surprise if we started O'Shea.

bilston wrote: »

Yep. Marshall has played 13 outside Olding. Scarlets away at the start of the season being one example. He has actually looked quite good there. If provincial form is anything to go by I expect Madigan and McCloskey in the midfield. McCloskey could play 13 but then so could Madigan.

Marshall has all the skills required to be a really good 13. He is actually wasted at 12 for Ulster with - when fit - Olding and McCloskey clearly good 12s who offer different styles. I have to say though that I think Olding as a 13 would be a real eye opener. This is another example of talent being log jammed within the provincial system. Guys like Whitten, Steenson and others who clearly have high skill sets and talent are lost to the system. Tommy Seymour is another case in point. Now, Michael Allen is leaving to join the diaspora. A quality centre who can't get games, except on the wing, for Ulster because of the log jam, should have been at least approached by Nucifora.

total former

Zzippy wrote: »

Do you think the players look at the FB page and bitch that there are more comments from other province's fans than theirs?

I was in Krystle the other night, got a high-five from Jordi Murphy because we're up to Leinster thread VI while Munster are only on IV.

True story.

molloyjh

total former wrote: »

I was in Krystle the other night, got a high-five from Jordi Murphy because we're up to Leinster thread VI while Munster are only on IV.

True story.

I hope you didn't tell him about the thread title(s)!

Neil3030

Very excited to see how Kelleher and Reid do. Delighted Ruddock is back.

George Hook

English Lurker wrote: »

Think I've seen him there outside Olding?


Might be barking up the wrong tree, but this seems the strongest squad you guys have put out against the Baabaas for some time. I'm looking forwards to this, not often you can waste a Thursday night with rugby (and the Challenge Cup ain't exactly great).

I wouldn't get your hopes up too high - a lot of these guys haven't played together so might be a bit stop start. But I think it'll be really interesting nonetheless.

Looking forward to McCloskey getting a run out in green, but I wish everyone well, hope they manage to function well as a unit and give Joe some headaches.

ssaye2

http://www.the42.ie/ireland-attack-barbarians-gilroy-test-run-2124211-May2015/

Kelleher may get a good run out so

Tox56

ssaye2 wrote: »

http://www.the42.ie/ireland-attack-barbarians-gilroy-test-run-2124211-May2015/

Kelleher may get a good run out so

Surprised Kelleher is so prominent in the minds of the national coaches where iirc he literally hasn't played once for Leinster. I wouldn't have thought they'd spend much time watching Leinster A/AIL but evidently they do

Hagz

Tox56 wrote: »

Surprised Kelleher is so prominent in the minds of the national coaches where iirc he literally hasn't played once for Leinster. I wouldn't have thought they'd spend much time watching Leinster A/AIL but evidently they do

He came off the bench in Leinster's last game but yeh they must keep an eye on the AIL as well as the 'A' games.

The Pheasant2

Tox56 wrote: »

Surprised Kelleher is so prominent in the minds of the national coaches where iirc he literally hasn't played once for Leinster. I wouldn't have thought they'd spend much time watching Leinster A/AIL but evidently they do

Could be wrong here but I think he's appeared for Leinster off the bench

diusmr8a504cvk

total former wrote: »

I was in Krystle the other night, got a high-five from Jordi Murphy because we're up to Leinster thread VI while Munster are only on IV.

True story.

That moment when you want to roast someone but you've already got a warning on the Rugby thread...

The Pheasant2

Sit through a feckin hour of that plank Daire O'Brien and not a single mention of the match on ATH. I understand they had to take some time to pay respects to the sad passing of Bill O'Herlihy but still...you'd think the selection for the match would be a fairly big talking point.

Some Yoke

Does D'arcy's omission here show he's properly out of the reckoning for the World Cup?

its_phil

The Pheasant2 wrote: »

Sit through a feckin hour of that plank Daire O'Brien and not a single mention of the match on ATH. I understand they had to take some time to pay respects to the sad passing of Bill O'Herlihy but still...you'd think the selection for the match would be a fairly big talking point.

Much bigger talking points considering Munster, Ulster, POC, Connacht and MOC news this week. Not exactly a whole lot of time and Babas game is bottom of that list IMO.

Korat

Respect for Shane Jennings. It's great he gets a send off like this, he deserves it.

total former

Kenna Silly Refugee wrote: »

That moment when you want to roast someone but you've already got a warning on the Rugby thread...

Totally. It's like that moment when you realise that, no matter how obvious the gag, it will go over someone's head.

ssaye2

Barbarians (v Ireland):

15 Zane Kirchner (Leinster & South Africa) 29
14 Alex Cuthbert (Cardiff Blues & Wales) 32
13 Joe Rokocoko (Bayonne & New Zealand) 68
12 Wynand Olivier (Montpellier & South Africa) 38
11 David Smith (Toulon)
10 James Gopperth (Leinster)
9 Ruan Pienaar (Ulster & South Africa) 80
1 Roberto Tejerizo (Tucuman & Argentina) 4
2 Deon Fourie (Lyon)
3 Adam Jones (Cardiff Blues & Wales) 95
4 Rodrigo Capo Ortega (Castres & Uruguay) 38
5 Konstantin Mikautadze (Toulon & Georgia) 31
6 Shane Jennings (Leinster & Ireland, Captain) 13:D:D:D
7 Gerhard Vosloo (Toulon)
8 Ryu Koliniasi Holani (Panasonic Wild Knights & Japan) 38
Replacements:
16 David Ward (Harlequins)
17 Saimone Taumoepeau (Castres & New Zealand) 3
18 Matias Diaz (Pampas & Argentina) 8
19 George Whitelock (Panasonic Wild Knights & New Zealand) 1
20 George Smith (Lyon & Australia) 111
21 Tomas Cubelli (Belgrano Ath & Argentina) 34
22 Tusi Pisi (Suntory Sungoliath & Samoa) 20
23 Gio Aplon (Grenoble & South Africa) 17

bilston

It's unfortunate for reasons beyond anyone's control but Thomond Pk may be the worst possible venue for this game. Even the Irish based Barbarians are from Leinster and Ulster!

ssaye2

No Brad Thorn for this unfortunately

.ak

Ah I was hoping Thorny would play. That backline looks great tho!

sydthebeat

jimmy to rip it up!!

sydthebeat

11 to 15 have all played wing at some stage!!!

dregin

Any of the Dublin posters heading down to this? Have Thursday and Friday off and am now finding myself with a little more spare time than previously expected...

Neil3030

dregin wrote: »

Any of the Dublin posters heading down to this? Have Thursday and Friday off and am now finding myself with a little more spare time than previously expected...

Was considering it actually. How much would tickets be?

leakyboots

Heading to this but can't say I'm too excited about it to be honest. Pity Connact/Munster players aren't involved, the fixture had a lot more potential when it was annouced. Still, Thursday night rugby in Thomond, should be a laugh

dregin

Neil3030 wrote: »

Was considering it actually. How much would tickets be?

35 blips.

ktulu123

dregin wrote: »

Any of the Dublin posters heading down to this? Have Thursday and Friday off and am now finding myself with a little more spare time than previously expected...

Yeah heading down to it, got two €35 terrace tickets. Should be worth it to see Jennings & Heaslip battle it out

phog

ktulu123 wrote: »

Yeah heading down to it, got two €35 terrace tickets. Should be worth it to see Jennings & Heaslip battle it out

I looked at them earlier and thought they were €30 but I doubt I'll head now unless I pick up a freebie.

Cookiemunster

phog wrote: »

I looked at them earlier and thought they were €30 but I doubt I'll head now unless I pick up a freebie.

€30 for the North and South terraces, €35 for the East and West. I'm in the same boat as yourself. No way I'm paying those prices for a Leinster/Ulster XV v the Barbarians.

Mahatma Geansai

Cookiemunster wrote: »

€30 for the North and South terraces, €35 for the East and West. I'm in the same boat as yourself. No way I'm paying those prices for a Leinster/Ulster XV v the Barbarians.

The tickets did go half-price a few times, but I wanted to see the sides before I decided to go. There is no chance that I paying that much for a terrace ticket.

wp_rathead

I still wish Micheal Swift was involved in this match

phog

Mahatma Geansai wrote: »

The tickets did go half-price a few times, but I wanted to see the sides before I decided to go. There is no chance that I paying that much for a terrace ticket.

I think it was only Category A stand tickets that went of offer, though some day last week they offered 20% off all tickets.

.ak

When is the team announced?

total former

.ak wrote: »

When is the team announced?

"lunchtime"

total former

total former wrote: »

"lunchtime"

But I'm eating lunch right now

accidentprone1

Deleted User wrote: »

But I'm eating lunch right now

Thanks for that -- my watch needed setting.

Teferi

15. Rob Kearney
14. Dave Kearney
13. Colm O’Shea
12. Luke Marshall
11. Craig Gilroy
10. Ian Madigan
9. Eoin Reddan
1. Jack McGrath
2. Richardt Strauss
3. Tadhg Furlong
4. Devin Toner
5. Dan Tuohy
6. Robbie Diack
7. Chris Henry
8. Jamie Heaslip (captain)

Replacements:
16. Rob Herring
17. Michael Bent
18. Mike Ross
19. Ben Marshall
20. Jordi Murphy
21. Luke McGrath
22. Paddy Jackson
23. Cian Kelleher

Peregrine

I hoped to see Jackson at 10, to be honest.


Delighted for Luke, COS and CK.

And McCloskey somewhere!

Teferi

Yeah 10 is disappointing. I would have wanted PJ to start.

thomond2006

Kelleher on the bench, wow.

RWC bolter?!

bilston

I don't think this selection is reflective of where players stand in the pecking order.

I'm assuming the view is that Madigan needs gametime at 10 rather than he is ahead of PJ. Likewise Luke Marshall needs gametime more than McCloskey.

That said I'm still disapointed McCloskey isn't getting a game.

thomond2006

thomond2006 wrote: »

Kelleher on the bench, wow.

RWC bolter?!

no

Rigor Mortis

In Joe we trust etc, but I don't get the need to play Ian at ten. Paddy needs a start and his form justifies it.

Delighted for the new caps though, great to see the fixture used to experiment.

ssaye2

Revised Team

http://www.the42.ie/ireland-barbarians-leinster-nathan-hines-2127783-May2015/


5. Zane Kirchner (Leinster & South Africa)
14. Alex Cuthbert (Cardiff Blues & Wales)
13. Joe Rokocoko (Bayonne & New Zealand)
12. Wynand Olivier (Montpellier & South Africa)
11. David Smith (Toulon)
10. Jimmy Gopperth (Leinster)
9. Ruan Pienaar (Ulster & South Africa)

1. Roberto Tejerizo (Tucuman & Argentina)
2. Deon Fourie (Lyon)
3. Adam Jones (Cardiff Blues & Wales)
4. Rodrigo Capo Ortega (Castres & Uruguay)
5. Konstantin Mikautadze (Toulon & Georgia)
6. Shane Jennings (Leinster & Ireland, Captain)
7. Gerhard Vosloo (Toulon)
8. Ryu Koliniasi Holani (Panasonic Wild Knights & Japan)

Replacements:

16. David Ward (Harlequins)
17. Saimone Taumoepeau (Castres & New Zealand)
18. Matias Diaz (Pampas & Argentina)
19. Nathan Hines (Sale Sharks & Scotland)
20. George Smith (Lyon & Australia)
21. Tomas Cubelli (Belgrano Ath & Argentina)
22. Tusi Pisi (Suntory Sungoliath & Samoa)
23. Gio Aplon (Grenoble & South Africa)

Buer

Big blow to Rhys Ruddock but I think there's some more outside the box thinking at work here given the likes of COS and Kelleher are involved and neither have any chance of being involved in September. Can't see him being in the 31 though if he's a) still not able to play a game or b) omitted from this panel as Diack is preferable to look at.