Ireland vs Barbarians, Thomond Pk, 28/05/15 19:45, Sky SP1

total former

sydneybound wrote: »

So that all said will they shift 20,000 tickets? Should do giving how long they've had to sell this game.

Kiss said on Monday that they'd sold 14000.

I know it's good to spread the games around but from a cold hard business perspective, it's not great.

.ak

I dunno why but I'm very interested in it, can't wait for it actually. But that's probably because I'd watch anything resembling a rugby match.

Swiwi.

.ak wrote: »

I dunno why but I'm very interested in it, can't wait for it actually. But that's probably because I'd watch anything resembling a rugby match.

...says the rugby league mod...

CatFromHue

Swiwi. wrote: »

Excuse my ignorance but what is the point of this game? Did Schmidt request it as part of his RWC preparation? Game is of interest for Irish fans but that BaaBaas side is pretty underwhelming for neutrals I would have thought. I'd say the best result for Ireland is no injuries. I'd expect a ropey first 40 with Jackson steadying the ship after half time if I'm honest.

It's something to do I suppose

I figured it out. Why Jackson isn't starting. It's the last possible chance it can happen. Joe wants to do what MOC never could, determine who is number one: Madigan vs Gopperth, one last time. Its genius.

diusmr8a504cvk

To all the people who have spent the last two pages talking about how it's bad business, won't break even, nobody's going etc, do you have anything better to do than essentially speak ill of Munster and their stadium? You don't see me or anyone else talking about the Prawn sandwich brigade or the lack of non-Leinster games that take place there.

Let me address this:
1. This came around 4 or so years ago and didn't draw a big crowd.
2. I didn't expect a big crowd when buying my ticket.
3. This is not a competitive fixture, more reason for people not to be attracted.
4. It's not televised. (It's on Sky actually, thanks CatFromHue)
5. Even if Munster weren't in the final of the league, no big stars would be on the panel.

And to the person who was fuming over the match not being covered on Against The Head, the match is not important and Ireland could be wiped off the field and alarm bells still would not ring as they simply don't care.

Kenna Silly Refugee

Kenna Silly Refugee wrote: »

To all the people who have spent the last two pages talking about how it's bad business, won't break even, nobody's going etc, do you have anything better to do than essentially speak ill of Munster and their stadium? You don't see me or anyone else talking about the Prawn sandwich brigade or the lack of non-Leinster games that take place there.

Let me address this:
1. This came around 4 or so years ago and didn't draw a big crowd.
2. I didn't expect a big crowd when buying my ticket.
3. This is not a competitive fixture, more reason for people not to be attracted.
4. It's not televised.
5. Even if Munster weren't in the final of the league, no big stars would be on the panel.

And to the person who was fuming over the match not being covered on Against The Head, the match is not important and Ireland could be wiped off the field and alarm bells still would not ring as they simply don't care.

You're being precious. Nobody was attacking munster or Thomand Park itself.

CatFromHue

It is televised, it's on Sky.

diusmr8a504cvk

CatFromHue wrote: »

It is televised, it's on Sky.

Sorry, I'll change that.

sydthebeat

CatFromHue wrote: »

It is televised, it's on Sky.

The clue is in the thread title

diusmr8a504cvk

sydthebeat wrote: »

The clue is in the thread title

Alright windbag I get it, the match is on Sky TV.

Zzippy

Kenna Silly Refugee wrote: »

Alright windbag I get it, the match is on Sky TV.

Please read the charter before posting again in this forum.

duckysauce

Kenna Silly Refugee wrote: »

To all the people who have spent the last two pages talking about how it's bad business, won't break even, nobody's going etc, do you have anything better to do than essentially speak ill of Munster and their stadium? You don't see me or anyone else talking about the Prawn sandwich brigade or the lack of non-Leinster games that take place there.

Let me address this:
1. This came around 4 or so years ago and didn't draw a big crowd.
2. I didn't expect a big crowd when buying my ticket.
3. This is not a competitive fixture, more reason for people not to be attracted.
4. It's not televised. (It's on Sky actually, thanks CatFromHue)
5. Even if Munster weren't in the final of the league, no big stars would be on the panel.

And to the person who was fuming over the match not being covered on Against The Head, the match is not important and Ireland could be wiped off the field and alarm bells still would not ring as they simply don't care.

why would no munster big stars be in the panel ?

diusmr8a504cvk

duckysauce wrote: »

why would no munster big stars be in the panel ?

Because it's not a big game!!!

The Lost Sheep

Kenna Silly Refugee wrote: »

To all the people who have spent the last two pages talking about how it's bad business, won't break even, nobody's going etc, do you have anything better to do than essentially speak ill of Munster and their stadium? You don't see me or anyone else talking about the Prawn sandwich brigade or the lack of non-Leinster games that take place there.

Let me address this:
1. This came around 4 or so years ago and didn't draw a big crowd.
2. I didn't expect a big crowd when buying my ticket.
3. This is not a competitive fixture, more reason for people not to be attracted.
4. It's not televised. (It's on Sky actually, thanks CatFromHue)
5. Even if Munster weren't in the final of the league, no big stars would be on the panel.

And to the person who was fuming over the match not being covered on Against The Head, the match is not important and Ireland could be wiped off the field and alarm bells still would not ring as they simply don't care.

That its not a competitive fixture doesn't imply the crowd wont be huge. If Munster were not in the pro12 final you would have seen more first choice Munster players who are fighting for world cup spots in the Irish squad.
People are not speaking ill of Munster or Twomint.

Kenna Silly Refugee wrote: »

Because it's not a big game!!!

In many ways it is. It is a game for players fighting for world cup spots etc. Its real start of world cup prep right before the short summer break.

Neil3030

I can't understand the ticket prices. Either put these exhibitions on around the country and absorb a loss to ensure a large crowd, or hold them in Dublin. You can't build regional goodwill and turn a profit with an exhibition dead rubber.

awec

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

That its not a competitive fixture doesn't imply the crowd wont be huge. If Munster were not in the pro12 final you would have seen more first choice Munster players who are fighting for world cup spots in the Irish squad.
People are not speaking ill of Munster or Twomint.

In many ways it is. It is a game for players fighting for world cup spots etc. Its real start of world cup prep right before the short summer break.

IMO this game will have minimal impact on anyone's World Cup chances. It's just an exhibition match.

diusmr8a504cvk

Neil3030 wrote: »

I can't understand the ticket prices. Either put these exhibitions on around the country and absorb a loss to ensure a large crowd, or hold them in Dublin. You can't build regional goodwill and turn a profit with an exhibition dead rubber.

Aviva Stadium is too big, RDS is too small. Open and shut case boys.

The Lost Sheep

awec wrote: »

IMO this game will have minimal impact on anyone's World Cup chances. It's just an exhibition match.

This game may not win a player a spot in squad but could certainly lose a player on fringes a spot if they play horribly.

Kenna Silly Refugee wrote: »

Aviva Stadium is too big, RDS is too small. Open and shut case boys.

Aviva too big yes and not simply RDS too small. There is no agreement with Royal Dublin Society for another game in ground and its a chance to move a game outside of Dublin. All Ireland games don't have to or need to be in Dublin

errlloyd

Serious long shot, but does anyone know where I'd find out if this game is being broadcast in Asia? I get the sky sports feed of pro12 games and wouldn't mind watching this.

total former

Based on the ticket sale figures we've been hearing, the RDS and Ravenhill would have been perfect capacity.

diusmr8a504cvk

errlloyd wrote: »

Serious long shot, but does anyone know where I'd find out if this game is being broadcast in Asia? I get the sky sports feed of pro12 games and wouldn't mind watching this.

It's on Sky but I could PM you another way of viewing if it's not in Asia.

molloyjh

Kenna Silly Refugee wrote: »

To all the people who have spent the last two pages talking about how it's bad business, won't break even, nobody's going etc, do you have anything better to do than essentially speak ill of Munster and their stadium? You don't see me or anyone else talking about the Prawn sandwich brigade or the lack of non-Leinster games that take place there.

Let me address this:
1. This came around 4 or so years ago and didn't draw a big crowd.
2. I didn't expect a big crowd when buying my ticket.
3. This is not a competitive fixture, more reason for people not to be attracted.
4. It's not televised. (It's on Sky actually, thanks CatFromHue)
5. Even if Munster weren't in the final of the league, no big stars would be on the panel.

And to the person who was fuming over the match not being covered on Against The Head, the match is not important and Ireland could be wiped off the field and alarm bells still would not ring as they simply don't care.

Just a friendly (and I genuinely mean friendly) pointer. The levels of provincialism here are minimal. Things work well here because most of us get on well. Nobody is bad mouthing Munster or Thomond Park. What people are complaining about is the timing of the fixture. A week later and/or a Friday kick-off would have drawn a better crowd.

errlloyd

Kenna Silly Refugee wrote: »

It's on Sky but I could PM you another way of viewing if it's not in Asia.

I wouldn't mind the PM to try it out, but I've a feeling my access to WiFi will be poor. I'm literally gonna be on an Island with no roads, no cars, the works. The hotel has WiFi and happens to have Satelight TV, which includes Setanta Sports... But it's way better than Irish Setanta. It literally just shows rugby or league 24/7. Never stops. I was hoping they might have the rights.

Swiwi.

awec wrote: »

IMO this game will have minimal impact on anyone's World Cup chances. It's just an exhibition match.

In general I agree. But I reckon a player like Gilroy could make or break his chances. If he has a nightmare, that's his chances gone, whereas a decent display would keep him in the mix.

diusmr8a504cvk

errlloyd wrote: »

I wouldn't mind the PM to try it out, but I've a feeling my access to WiFi will be poor. I'm literally gonna be on an Island with no roads, no cars, the works. The hotel has WiFi and happens to have Satelight TV, which includes Setanta Sports... But it's way better than Irish Setanta. It literally just shows rugby or league 24/7. Never stops. I was hoping they might have the rights.

Sent Broski.

total former

Swiwi. wrote: »

In general I agree. But I reckon a player like Gilroy could make or break his chances. If he has a nightmare, that's his chances gone, whereas a decent display would keep him in the mix.

Could be like the Wolfhounds game this season. No one really helped themselves but the likes of Marmion and Madigan definitely set themselves back.

Swiwi.

total former wrote: »

Could be like the Wolfhounds game this season. No one really helped themselves but the likes of Marmion and Madigan definitely set themselves back.

Yeah, you can probably do very little to advance your case, because the old asterix will come out given the nature of the game...but you can definitely harm your chances if you play poorly. Sort of a no-win for the players.

Fireball07

I would never badmouth Munster, I'm as biased as they come. But the fact is that as a Munster & Ireland fan, I have very very little interest in going to the match.

I've been asked to go but the night that it's on + the price doesn't seem very appealing at all.

I don't think it's Munster's fault, I don't know who actually set the fixture, it just seems very stupid having it on in Thomond when the interest is likely to be much higher in Dublin/Belfast. With the likes of Kelleher & O'Shea playing, along with Jennings' last hurrah & Gopperth at OH; I imagine the RDS would have sold out. I know it's for Munster but the timing is bad.

If any of the likes of Stander, Coughlan, Bleyendaal, Botha, Guinazu, Smith, Mafi had been involved for the BaaBaas (I'm guessing Saili & Stringer are no-nos) and maybe the likes of JOD, ROM, JJ, Casey as younger players in the Ireland squad, then I imagine it would have drawn a lot of interest.

But Munster are playing a more important match. I don't see how that's any sort of slight.

Swiwi.

Fireball07 wrote: »

I would never badmouth Munster, I'm as biased as they come. But the fact is that as a Munster & Ireland fan, I have very very little interest in going to the match.

I've been asked to go but the night that it's on + the price doesn't seem very appealing at all.

I don't think it's Munster's fault, I don't know who actually set the fixture, it just seems very stupid having it on in Thomond when the interest is likely to be much higher in Dublin/Belfast. With the likes of Kelleher & O'Shea playing, along with Jennings' last hurrah & Gopperth at OH; I imagine the RDS would have sold out. I know it's for Munster but the timing is bad.

If any of the likes of Stander, Coughlan, Bleyendaal, Botha, Guinazu, Smith, Mafi had been involved for the BaaBaas (I'm guessing Saili & Stringer are no-nos) and maybe the likes of JOD, ROM, JJ, Casey as younger players in the Ireland squad, then I imagine it would have drawn a lot of interest.

But Munster are playing a more important match. I don't see how that's any sort of slight.

I would have thought this was the perfect game for a small ground with €5 ticket prices, bring-a-kid-for-free type affair.

I find the way the games lately have been divvied up is a bit weird: I mean the Pro 12 final in Belfast between Munster & Glasgow??

irishbucsfan

Swiwi. wrote: »

I would have thought this was the perfect game for a small ground with €5 ticket prices, bring-a-kid-for-free type affair.

I find the way the games lately have been divvied up is a bit weird: I mean the Pro 12 final in Belfast between Munster & Glasgow??

The money is important to Thomond Park and the Munster branch, there's no way they'd risk it being at a loss.

The Pro 12 obviously had no idea the final would be between Munster & Glasgow, it could just as easily have been Munster/Ulster. It's just like the Champions Cup final, unfortunate but the nature of pre-determined stadia.

The Lost Sheep

total former wrote: »

Based on the ticket sale figures we've been hearing, the RDS and Ravenhill would have been perfect capacity.

Its a chance to play an Irish game in Limerick. Not many are played there. We shouldn't, if moving Irish games from the Aviva, be playing them in the RDS. Play them outside Dublin. Ravenhill was unavailable for this week.

Swiwi. wrote: »

I would have thought this was the perfect game for a small ground with €5 ticket prices, bring-a-kid-for-free type affair.

I find the way the games lately have been divvied up is a bit weird: I mean the Pro 12 final in Belfast between Munster & Glasgow??

Maybe not €5 a ticket but all clubs in Limerick, Clare, Tipperary all offered discounted tickets, help to pay for buses to get crowd to game

This is first year pro12 will have a final venue set early in the season. It just happened to be Munster Glasgow in Belfast. I think in time it will be better than top ranked team getting a home final if done right

Swiwi.

irishbucsfan wrote: »

The Pro 12 obviously had no idea the final would be between Munster & Glasgow, it could just as easily have been Munster/Ulster. It's just like the Champions Cup final, unfortunate but the nature of pre-determined stadia.

I undertand that for the ECC, where it's on a bigger stage and involves travelling fans etc. Given the scale of the Pro 12, I honestly reckon they could leave the final venue until after the semi finals. I would find it plain weird if the Super Rugby final venue was pre-ordained: good luck getting people out to Eden Park to watch the Brumbies play the Stormers...

awec

Swiwi. wrote: »

I undertand that for the ECC, where it's on a bigger stage and involves travelling fans etc. Given the scale of the Pro 12, I honestly reckon they could leave the final venue until after the semi finals. I would find it plain weird if the Super Rugby final venue was pre-ordained: good luck getting people out to Eden Park to watch the Brumbies play the Stormers...

I don't think it's possible to organise it in 1 week.

There is a lot of things that happen in the background that are organised ages in advance. I am pretty sure Belfast City Council are involved next week in some capacity.

aimee1

Kenna Silly Refugee wrote: »

Because it's not a big game!!!

Based on the team selected if munster were not involved in the playoffs then some of the munster irish contingent would play.

aimee1

Kenna Silly Refugee wrote: »

Because it's not a big game!!!

Based on the team selected if munster were not involved in the playoffs then some of the munster irish contingent would play.

total former

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Its a chance to play an Irish game in Limerick. Not many are played there. We shouldn't, if moving Irish games from the Aviva, be playing them in the RDS. Play them outside Dublin. Ravenhill was unavailable for this week.

I'm not advocating keeping the games in Dublin at all, was only responding to the poster who claimed the RDS is too small so it was "open and shut" for Thomond based purely on capacity, but that's not really the case.

This match was announced before the Pro12 final was fixed for Ravenhill too.

duckysauce

Kenna Silly Refugee wrote: »

Because it's not a big game!!!

that's crap it's in Thomond , why's Jamie playing so

diusmr8a504cvk

duckysauce wrote: »

that's crap it's in Thomond , why's Jamie playing so

Ffs, this match was announced 7 months ago!

duckysauce

Kenna Silly Refugee wrote: »

Ffs, this match was announced 7 months ago!

and your quote was ##



5. Even if Munster weren't in the final of the league, no big stars would be on the panel.

duckysauce

so why ****e about Jamie

diusmr8a504cvk

What I'm trying to say is, Ireland are not taking the game too seriously. Yes your beloved Jamie Heaslip is on the team but just because he's in it doesn't mean they're taking it serious, it just means he's filling a role.

duckysauce

Kenna Silly Refugee wrote: »

What I'm trying to say is, Ireland are not taking the game too seriously. Yes your beloved Jamie Heaslip is on the team but just because he's in it doesn't mean they're taking it serious, it just means he's filling a role.

jesus as a munster supporter that's ****in sad , do you know what's going on with teams ?

diusmr8a504cvk

Less of your Jesus I've never spoke to people on this website that couldn't wrap their head around something until today.

duckysauce

Kenna Silly Refugee wrote: »

Less of your Jesus I've never spoke to people on this website that couldn't wrap their head around something until today.

all 14 posts

Ps I am a munster supporter

awec

I think we've exceeded our daily nonsense quota. Advanced Ghost and duckysauce drop it please.

diusmr8a504cvk

duckysauce wrote: »

all 14 posts

Ps I am a munster supporter

Less of the rising please and thank you, I genuinely don't want to fight and just want to talk about the game but every thing I say is questioned multiple times and just leads to nonsense and going off topic, I'll be glad when the match is over and the thread dies.

shuffol

Sometimes I think that some of the fans on this site appearing to be from one province are actually mischevious fans from another province trying to make them look bad.

If a big reason for this fixture is to raise money for TP maybe it would help them to market it locally as just that, rather than an Irish exhibition game with no local players that people are expected to go out and pay money to support.

PIORUN

they seriously priced them selves out of it with this thing and the fixture schedule didn't help either. Next Thursday would have been a far better idea. sure there was always a chance that at least 1 Irish side would get to the pro 12 final..there always has been.

.ak

Kenna Silly Refugee wrote: »

Less of the rising please and thank you, I genuinely don't want to fight and just want to talk about the game but every thing I say is questioned multiple times and just leads to nonsense and going off topic, I'll be glad when the match is over and the thread dies.

Fine, then don't post on this thread again please.