The Fifa Superthread; Corruption, Arrests and Sepp Blatter's Resignation!

inforfun

5starpool wrote: »

Poor old Jack Warner left prison in an ambulance yesterday. Here is a photo of him from the Guardian liveblog recovering in an appropriate way less than 24 hours later, the poor fella.

The see you next tuesday has pulled the racism card already too: Why are there only people for 3rd world countries being targetted?

jmayo wrote: »

How friendly are the Jordanian and Qatari regimes ?

Not sure. If reports are to be believed, Qatari money is going to IS while the Jordanian king himself has made flights and threw bombs on IS

inforfun

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

that's not bribery, that's giving money to it's owners imo.

Lets call it an incentive....
I know it is not bribery as such as the money will go to the FA's. How much then will "disappear" is not FIFA's wrongdoing i suppose.

Votes each confederation has:


Europa (UEFA, 53
Oceanië (OFC, 11
Noord-Amerika (CONCACAF, 35


Afrika (CAF, 54
Azië (AFC, 46
Zuid-Amerika (CONMEBOL, 10

Lovely Bloke

so, finally the real reason why Dear Leader is voting for Ali.

inforfun

Next item on the agende after the break:

Palestina asking FIFA to remove Israel as a member.

citytillidie

Players union now looking at the 9 game ban Suarez got and looking to get it over turned as one of the arrested officials was on the disciplinary committee.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/32926042

Lovely Bloke

citytillidie wrote: »

Players union now looking at the 9 game ban Suarez got and looking to get it over turned as one of the arrested officials was on the disciplinary committee.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/32926042

the ban for when he fell into Chiellini?

Are the players Union trying to say that the ban was down to corruption? that's fúcking laughable.

GavRedKing

Cant see much coming from it

"We have no proof that this [sanction] was made within the framework of illegal actions but nothing guarantees us that it wasn't."

Lovely Bloke

Jesus, could they not pick a less cut and dried case as a test case? Amateur hour.

GavRedKing

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

Jesus, could they not pick a less cut and dried case as a test case? Amateur hour.

Its all based on conjucture, waste of time but it will get a few clicks on some websites I'd imagine.

jmayo

inforfun wrote: »

The see you next tuesday has pulled the racism card already too: Why are there only people for 3rd world countries being targetted?

He is one slimeball.

Not sure. If reports are to be believed, Qatari money is going to IS while the Jordanian king himself has made flights and threw bombs on IS

It is gas how Qatar come out relatively ok in international terms even though they have been linked to all sorts, yet Iran are the worlds worst.

Actually Iran would have more rights to a world cup than Qatar.

inforfun wrote: »

Lets call it an incentive....
I know it is not bribery as such as the money will go to the FA's. How much then will "disappear" is not FIFA's wrongdoing i suppose.

Votes each confederation has:


Europa (UEFA, 53

Lot of small Eastern Europe/Asian countries that would have corruption as normal.
Some Western ones too.

inforfun wrote: »

Oceanië (OFC, 11

We all know how one of their representatives fought a legal challenge to being removed just so that he could vote for Qatar, I think screwing Aus along the way.
Out of 11 the only countries probably not in someones pocket is Aus and NZ.
Funny they are only ones with a hope in hell of getting to a tournament.

inforfun wrote: »

Noord-Amerika (CONCACAF, 35

Again that includes the Caribbean and the likes of mr warner's Trinidad and Tobago does it not.

inforfun wrote: »

Afrika (CAF, 54

Total waste, they would probably sell their mother for a swiss watch.
Funny I think they got some of those in gift bags from Qatar. :rolleyes:

greendom

GavRedKing wrote: »

Its all based on conjucture, waste of time but it will get a few clicks on some websites I'd imagine.

I think it's called chancing your arm (or is it biting someone else's shoulder?)

lee_baby_simms

Zurich Police: "We can confirm the receipt of a bomb threat" at FIFA Congress venue Reporters on site say they've heard nothing.

inforfun

And we have a bomb threat.

lee_baby_simms

inforfun wrote: »

And we have a bomb threat.

Nothing to see here folks.

inforfun

jmayo wrote: »

It is gas how Qatar come out relatively ok in international terms even though they have been linked to all sorts, yet Iran are the worlds worst.

Actually Iran would have more rights to a world cup than Qatar.




Lot of small Eastern Europe/Asian countries that would have corruption as normal.
Some Western ones too.



We all know how one of their representatives fought a legal challenge to being removed just so that he could vote for Qatar, I think screwing Aus along the way.
Out of 11 the only countries probably not in someones pocket is Aus and NZ.
Funny they are only ones with a hope in hell of getting to a tournament.



Again that includes the Caribbean and the likes of mr warner's Trinidad and Tobago does it not.



Total waste, they would probably sell their mother for a swiss watch.
Funny I think they got some of those in gift bags from Qatar. :rolleyes:

Michael van Praag, who was also running but pulled out, mentioned he was hoping 60 other nations would vote with 45 confirmed Prince voters from UEFA members/

8 non Europeans seem to be confirmed as voting against Blatter: United States, Canada, Australië, Nieuw-Zeeland, Uruguay, Costa Rica, Panama.

Australia is member of the AFC nowadays btw, not Oceania

Duck Soup

Fahkin' hell, it's all going off now. President of the Congolese FA and Fifa executive committee member, Constant Omari, from earlier today:

"Germany bought the vote of Oceania, illegally, to earn the organization of the 2006 World Cup, but that’s not spoken about. When it’s Germany, nobody wants to speak about it."

Polo_Mint

Duck Soup wrote: »

Fahkin' hell, it's all going off now. President of the Congolese FA and Fifa executive committee member, Constant Omari, from earlier today:

"Germany bought the vote of Oceania, illegally, to earn the organization of the 2006 World Cup, but that’s not spoken about. When it’s Germany, nobody wants to speak about it."

lol

Lovely Bloke

Well, they probably did.

Drumpot

Duck Soup wrote: »

Fahkin' hell, it's all going off now. President of the Congolese FA and Fifa executive committee member, Constant Omari, from earlier today:

"Germany bought the vote of Oceania, illegally, to earn the organization of the 2006 World Cup, but that’s not spoken about. When it’s Germany, nobody wants to speak about it."

Loosely translated into "sure we are all corrupt as f**k, why pick on quatar?"

paulbok

inforfun wrote: »

And we have a bomb threat.

There were actually 2 bomb threats, only one was officially declared, the other was pocketed by Sepp.

josip

I'd imagine the IRS have just started to look more closely at Constant's financial dealings over the past decade.

UnitedIrishman

Duck Soup wrote: »

Fahkin' hell, it's all going off now. President of the Congolese FA and Fifa executive committee member, Constant Omari, from earlier today:

"Germany bought the vote of Oceania, illegally, to earn the organization of the 2006 World Cup, but that’s not spoken about. When it’s Germany, nobody wants to speak about it."

"Now if you'll excuse me, I must get back to counting this brown bag of crisp US Dollars over here."

FYP.

Lovely Bloke

Palestine have withdrawn their motion to have Israel suspended.

5starpool

Vote coming up. Looks like UEFA and now South America voting against Blatter (though there are exceptions like Spain and Russia) with probably most Asian and African ones voting for him. It might go to a second round but he'll win I'm sure as expected. They should sack everyone in the room and start again imo.

SantryRed

Good aul Delaney.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/john-delaney-calls-for-transparency-in-football-but-wont-discuss-reported-5m-fifa-payment-31263808.html

josip

South America and Europe would have the commercial clout to go it alone and set up an alternative to FIFA if the will was truly there.

Lovely Bloke

Where are the reports that South America is rebelling coming from?

It's only 11 votes though.

Lovely Bloke

5starpool wrote: »

Vote coming up. Looks like UEFA and now South America voting against Blatter (though there are exceptions like Spain and Russia) with probably most Asian and African ones voting for him. It might go to a second round but he'll win I'm sure as expected. They should sack everyone in the room and start again imo.

who should sack them?

Jelle1880

So Jack Warner was released from jail and sent to the hospital for health issues.

A few hours later:

http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/may/29/jack-warner-dancing-fifa-scandal-exhaustion

5starpool

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

who should sack them?

It wasn't a suggestion as obviously it's not going to happen, but there should be someting involving pitchforks, angry mobs carrying torches and spikes.

5starpool

Baldy Conscience wrote: »

Where are the reports that South America is rebelling coming from?

It's only 11 votes though.

From the Guardian at 14:43.

Owen Gibson has got in touch from Zurich to report that Conmebol (the confederation for South America), presumably feeling abandoned by Blatter, looks to now be backing Prince Ali bin Al-Hussein, which would increase the chances of the vote going to a second round.

syngindub

would the chap just no resign and take his pension, christ almighty

Oat23

Blatter has it. Had 60 odd votes more than Ali in the first round, but was 7 short of 3/4 majority.

ronjo

Oat23 wrote: »

Blatter has it. Had 60 odd votes more than Ali in the first round, but was 7 short of 3/4 majority.

Why will that mean he has had it?
Sorry, I am not following the voting too closely.

Lithium93_

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/604332278622347264

Bounty Hunter

I believe it's almost time for the sh!t to hit the proverbial fan and for us to get answers to all those what will happen / x, y & z do if Blatter is re-elected questions.

edit: why does he have it? cos the 2nd round of voting is stupid tbh , nobody will change their vote (or at least not more than is needed to affect the outcome... which is over 30 blatter votes needed to change to the prince) and now a simple majority will do it

so all hail President for Life Blatter!

I have an image of Nixon being re-elected in futurama except with Blatter in my head now... apt too Nixons quote about ihow it's not illegal when the president does it

Oat23

ronjo wrote: »

Why will that mean he has had it?
Sorry, I am not following the voting too closely.

The second round of voting, Blatter just needs a majority.
He had 133 votes to Ali's 73 in the first round.
He needed 140 to be elected in the first round.

No way enough people are going to flip all of a sudden and vote for Ali.

Caovyn Lineah

Why does he keep getting votes? Surely everyone can see how ****in corrupt he is.

ronjo

Oat23 wrote: »

The second round of voting, Blatter just needs a majority.
He had 133 votes to Ali's 73 in the first round.
He needed 140 to be elected in the first round.

No way enough people are going to flip all of a sudden and vote for Ali.

Sorry I totally misread.

I thought you wrote HAS HAD it and thats why I couldnt understand.

pmasterson95

****in hell those Palestineans attention seeking with their anti-Israel ****e. ****ing hell just piss off.

syngindub

amazes me how he gets voted in each time !!

Caovyn Lineah

syngindub wrote: »

amazes me how he gets voted in each time !!

It just doesn't make sense. Football will never move forward while he is in charge.

Lord TSC

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Why does he keep getting votes? Surely everyone can see how ****in corrupt he is.

You don't think it's related; the corruption benefits the likes of Africa (who represent 1/4 of the votes) and the ilk who benefit from that will vote for him.

GLaDOS

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

Why does he keep getting votes? Surely everyone can see how ****in corrupt he is.

That's how corruption works

TheDoc

Caovyn Lineah wrote: »

It just doesn't make sense. Football will never move forward while he is in charge.

It's actually pretty simple.

He allocates massive funding to small countries that still have a vote in the Asian and African federations, and basically secures his re-election every term.

He has never got on with UEFA or Europe, but the African and Asian confederations are easily swayed with funding, and he gets the votes he needs.

Benimar

Prince Ali withdraws.

smileyj1987

Benimar wrote: »

Prince Ali withdraws.

Looks like David gill will be resigning tonight then.

josip

Benimar wrote: »

Prince Ali withdraws.

We have a winnnnnerrrrrr!!!!

klose

Yay, 4 more years of that arsehole

Caovyn Lineah

But what I mean was surely he has to answer to someone, hopefully all this news over the last week is the end of him.