RWC 2015 - build-up thread

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

A game against Georgia compared to Scotland will always be priced differently and as these games will be very different to games in November against T2 sides..
How do you propose more games for those sides to play higher quality of games. Theyre getting Autumn internationals and summer games against T1 sides. No other time for games. Georgia wont ever play 6 nations as there isn't the space in season for them to play expanded 6Ns. It would benefit Georgia etc to play more but they are playing more t1 sides with new IRB schedule

I'm not suggesting anything as to how they get to play higher quality games. I'm simply stating a fact, that it's a shame they don't get to. That's it.

I know the games will be priced differently but can you really say €70 for a warm up match between two under strength sides is a reasonable price?

Scotland are charging between £15 and £25 for their home match against Italy and you get a free child under 12 ticket with every adult one. It's also their 2nd to last match before the world cup so there's a pretty good chance they'll have a near full strength squad out too. That seems much more reasonable than the prices we're charging.

Padkir

Does anyone know what the attendance was in the Aviva yesterday? It was never announced.

stephen_n

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

I'm not suggesting anything as to how they get to play higher quality games. I'm simply stating a fact, that it's a shame they don't get to. That's it.

I know the games will be priced differently but can you really say €70 for a warm up match between two under strength sides is a reasonable price?

Scotland are charging between £15 and £25 for their home match against Italy and you get a free child under 12 ticket with every adult one. It's also their 2nd to last match before the world cup so there's a pretty good chance they'll have a near full strength squad out too. That seems much more reasonable than the prices we're charging.

The Welsh charged something like £20 a ticket last week and filled the stadium. Think if the IRFU had halved the price yesterday, they would have had a similar turn out.

vienne86

Padkir wrote: »

Does anyone know what the attendance was in the Aviva yesterday? It was never announced.

Guys behind me said 35K - optimistic I'd say.

stephen_n

The corporate areas seemed full all right but on tv at least the stands looked half empty!

Stheno

stephen_n wrote: »

The corporate areas seemed full all right but on tv at least the stands looked half empty!

They were there were entire blocks that were empty
I'd say it was about 40 percent full

sydthebeat

Padkir wrote: »

Does anyone know what the attendance was in the Aviva yesterday? It was never announced.

independent has it at 30,000

thomond2006

Synode

Padkir wrote: »

Does anyone know what the attendance was in the Aviva yesterday? It was never announced.

They said it was close to 35,000 on Sky

aimee1

Synode wrote: »

They said it was close to 35,000 on Sky

Think they said ~ 31000

jacothelad

Deleted User wrote: »

Only from their perspective. Really we only have France to deal with, I'd rather that than have Australia, NZ or SA in our group so out of the NH teams were doing by far the best.

I'm totally bought into the Joe Show, and I have complete faith in the sheer quality of our team. We're going to well beat France and squeaky bum time is going to be on hold until late into the semi final when we out class either England or Australia.

Our RWC final against NZ is going to be made into a film about how it began the reunification between the north and the republic with Morgan Freeman playing Enda Kenny.

Believe.

You're welcome back any time...

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Interesting to see Lambie getting a lot of praise for his performance for South Africa against Argentina at the weekend. 100% on his kicks at goal too. May be enough to put him ahead of Pollard as starting #10.

Kirchner apparently also did well. Never going to start ahead of Le Roux but good to see an Irish based player do well.

The Pheasant2

Finally managed to get around to watching the England match. The coverage from Sky was a bit of a circlejerk over Burgess...yuk

PTH2009

Do the southern hemp teams have a slight advantage because the world cup is nearer the end of there season while it's the start of the northern hemp season. Maybe that's why only 1 north hemp team has won ever won it

.ak

PTH2009 wrote: »

Do the southern hemp teams have a slight advantage because the world cup is nearer the end of there season while it's the start of the northern hemp season. Maybe that's why only 1 north hemp team has won ever won it

I dunno, we have warm ups to compensate. Generally the teams who have won it are just the best teams.

aimee1

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/rugby-union/33968219

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

aimee1 wrote: »

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/rugby-union/33968219

Yeah, they used it at the weekend for the France v England match.

ionadnapokot

.ak wrote: »

I dunno, we have warm ups to compensate. Generally the teams who have won it are just the best teams.

I think thats generally because they (SH) are the best teams!
It should really help Argentina this time around. They have a really impressive pack. Loads of depth in the 2nd row and back row. And allot of really young lads. The two lads in the 2nd row v the Boks in Durban were aroud 21 yr of age. Playing Aus, SA and NZ will only be a benefit to them come WC.
If we manage to beat France we will have an absolute bloody battle on our hands to get past the Argies.

total former

Hawkeye to be used

http://m.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/33968219

aimee1

total former wrote: »

Hawkeye to be used

http://m.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/33968219

:rolleyes:

"The technology works by recording all broadcast angles in real time and making the footage available immediately to help officials, medical staff and coaches."

Sounds the same as what we have right now?

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Deleted User wrote: »

"The technology works by recording all broadcast angles in real time and making the footage available immediately to help officials, medical staff and coaches."

Sounds the same as what we have right now?

That's what I thought last week when they said they'd be using it at Twickenham on Saturday. I didn't notice them using it during the match though. Maybe right at the start when they had to check if France had grounded the ball, it looked like they used a zoom on the regular camera angle. They said something about split screen shots, like if they're checking if the ball was grounded before a players foot was in touch they can look at both at the same time.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Tonga have named their squad, well, 30 of them. There's one more to be added.

Forwards:

Tevita Mailau (Perpignan), Alisona Taumalolo (Grenoble), Soane Tonga'uiha (Oyonnax), Halani Aulika (London Irish), Sila Puafisi (Gloucester), Elvis Taione (Exeter Chiefs), Paula Ngauamo (Mont de Marson), Aleki Lutui (Ampthill RFC), Tukulua Lokotui (Beziers), Joeseph Tiuneau (Dax), Steve Mafi (Western Force), Opeti Fonua (Leicester Tigers), Hala T-Pole (Otago), Nili Latu (Newcastle Falcons), Jack Ram (Auckland Blues), Viliami Ma'afu (Oyonnax), Sione Kalamafoni (Gloucester)

Backs:

Sonatane Takulua (Newcastle Falcons), Samisoni Fisilau (Jersey RFC), Sosefo Ma'ake (Havelu Bulldogs), Kurt Morath (Biarritz), Latiume Fosita (Doncaster), Sione Piukala (Perpignan), Siale Piutau (Yamaha), Viliami Tahitu'a (Northland), Fetu'u Vainikolo (Oyonnax), Telusa Veainu (Melbourne Rebels), Tevita Halaifonua (Gloucester), William Helu (Edinburgh), Vungakoto Lilo (Montauban)

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Scotland squad to play Italy this weekend.

9 changes in the forwards. Few more recognisable names there.


Only 2 changes in the backs. Interestingly both uncapped players.

sydthebeat

JOHN HARDIE!!!!



edit: so is sean maitland going to miss due to his shoulder injury?

total former

I'm disgusted they've picked Hardie. First cap for WP Nel too, but I'm OK with that.

Pyrgos and Hidalgo-Clyne again, is Laidlaw injured?

MJohnston

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

That's what I thought last week when they said they'd be using it at Twickenham on Saturday. I didn't notice them using it during the match though. Maybe right at the start when they had to check if France had grounded the ball, it looked like they used a zoom on the regular camera angle. They said something about split screen shots, like if they're checking if the ball was grounded before a players foot was in touch they can look at both at the same time.

Hawk-Eye isn't generally about providing extra video angles - what it normally does is use a series of exceptionally high quality cameras around the stadium to very accurately calculate the exact location of the ball. However, it looks like they'll be taking advantage of the extra frame rate and resolution in the Hawk-Eye cameras for the TMO to do their thing too. Hopefully this will put an end to those endless 5 minute decisions.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

Not too far off full strength for England for their second match.

thomond2006

total former wrote: »

I'm disgusted they've picked Hardie. First cap for WP Nel too, but I'm OK with that.

Pyrgos and Hidalgo-Clyne again, is Laidlaw injured?

Better not read this then: http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_71463,00.html

aimee1

saw a facebook post that says one of japans locks wrecked his knee in a warm up game

ionadnapokot

Argentina RWC 2015 squad:

Forwards: Matias Alemanno, Marcos Ayerza, Agustin Creevy, Matias Diaz, Juan Fernandez Lobbe, Ramiro Herrera, Facundo Isa, Tomas Lavanini, Juan Manuel Leguizamon, Pablo Matera, Julian Montoya, Lucas Noguera Paz, Javier Ortega, Guido Petti, Leonardo Senatore, Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro.

Backs: Horacio Agulla, Marcelo Bosch, Santiago Cordero, Tomas Cubelli, Jeronimo De La Fuente, Lucas Gonzalez Amorosino, Santiago Gonzalez Iglesias, Juan Martin Hernandez, Juan Imhoff, Martin Landajo, Matias Moroni, Nicolas Sanchez, Juan Pablo Socino, Joaquin Tuculet.
http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/news/85200

16 / 14 split.
Am i reading the FW's right? Only 2 Hookers (with 5 props) and only 3 specialist second rows? Seems a little light in the engine room.
1. Marcos Ayerza 17. Lucas Noguera Paz
2. Agustin Creevy 16. Julian Montoya
3. Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro 18. Ramiro Herrera 26. Matias Diaz
4. Guido Petti
5. Tomas Lavanini 19. Matias Alemanno
6. Facundo Isa, Pablo Matera
7. Juan Fernandez Lobbe, Javier Ortega
8. Leonardo Senatore, Juan Manuel Leguizamon

total former

ionadnapokot wrote: »

Argentina RWC 2015 squad:

Forwards: Matias Alemanno, Marcos Ayerza, Agustin Creevy, Matias Diaz, Juan Fernandez Lobbe, Ramiro Herrera, Facundo Isa, Tomas Lavanini, Juan Manuel Leguizamon, Pablo Matera, Julian Montoya, Lucas Noguera Paz, Javier Ortega, Guido Petti, Leonardo Senatore, Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro.

Backs: Horacio Agulla, Marcelo Bosch, Santiago Cordero, Tomas Cubelli, Jeronimo De La Fuente, Lucas Gonzalez Amorosino, Santiago Gonzalez Iglesias, Juan Martin Hernandez, Juan Imhoff, Martin Landajo, Matias Moroni, Nicolas Sanchez, Juan Pablo Socino, Joaquin Tuculet.
http://www.rugbyworldcup.com/news/85200

16 / 14 split.
Am i reading the FW's right? Only 2 Hookers (with 5 props) and only 3 specialist second rows? Seems a little light in the engine room.
1. Marcos Ayerza 17. Lucas Noguera Paz
2. Agustin Creevy 16. Julian Montoya
3. Nahuel Tetaz Chaparro 18. Ramiro Herrera 26. Matias Diaz
4. Guido Petti
5. Tomas Lavanini 19. Matias Alemanno
6. Facundo Isa, Pablo Matera
7. Juan Fernandez Lobbe, Javier Ortega
8. Leonardo Senatore, Juan Manuel Leguizamon

That list seems to omit Galarza who is a second row and is in the squad.

Two hookers is odd but maybe one of the props can cover?

A 16-14 split means someone has been omitted.

baaba maal

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Not too far off full strength for England for their second match.

12 trees covering a fair few positions?

The Lost Sheep

baaba maal wrote: »

12 trees covering a fair few positions?

outhalf and centre only I think but I assume he would cover wing if one had to be used. Cipriani can play full back as well as 10.

baaba maal

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

outhalf and centre only I think but I assume he would cover wing if one had to be used. Cipriani can play full back as well as 10.

Just read Lancaster saying the Cipriani would cover FB- not what Danny woud be looking for but it makes sense from a "giving everybody a go" strategy.

smiley_face

total former wrote: »

That list seems to omit Galarza who is a second row and is in the squad.

Two hookers is odd but maybe one of the props can cover?

A 16-14 split means someone has been omitted.

Montoya is a hooker that can play prop, one of the tighthead props can probably cover hooker also, don't know which one, but it's an interesting way to allow them take 6 back rowers.

jacothelad

thomond2006 wrote: »

Better not read this then: http://www.planetrugby.com/story/0,25883,3551_71463,00.html

Good on him.

English Lurker

baaba maal wrote: »

12 trees covering a fair few positions?

Just 12. If a winger gets injured then he'll go to 12, Burrell to 13 and Joseph to the wing, based on the 6N.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO

French team to play England.

molloyjh

Two very strong sides there. Could be a very good game.

.ak

Good looking French team.

flangemeistro

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

French team to play England.

France by 6.

sydthebeat

if that team clicks they could be irresistible

total former

If that French team had Joe Schmidt coaching them, they'd wipe the floor with us in the RWC. Serious power and pace in that backline.

flangemeistro

I got them at 20/1 in the bookies, you couldn't resist France at that price knowing what they're capable of.
Ireland have gone from 7/1 to 8/1 after the Scottish game.
Another poor performance now against Wales and England should lull the bookies into a Dakar sense of security and see them going out to 12/1, then pounce and throw the kids college fund on them.

total former

Greig Tonks (Edinburgh Rugby), Sean Lamont (Glasgow Warriors), Richie Vernon (Glasgow Warriors), Matt Scott (Edinburgh Rugby), Rory Hughes (Glasgow Warriors), Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors), Sam Hidalgo-Clyne (Edinburgh Rugby), Gordon Reid (Glasgow Warriors), Stuart McInally (Edinburgh Rugby), Mike Cusack (Glasgow Warriors), Richie Gray (Castres), Grant Gilchrist (capt, Edinburgh Rugby), Alasdair Strokosch (Perpignan), John Hardie (unattached), Adam Ashe (Glasgow Warriors).

Substitutes: Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby), Alasdair Dickinson (Edinburgh Rugby), Willem Nel (Edinburgh Rugby), Jim Hamilton (Saracens), Hamish Watson (Edinburgh Rugby), Henry Pyrgos (Glasgow Warriors), Peter Horne (Glasgow Warriors), Damien Hoyland (Edinburgh Rugby).

My mate John Hardie will make his international debut on Saturday, along with Rory Hughes and Stuart McInally. WP Nel could also come off the bench for his debut.

Squidgy Black

Wallabies squad for the world cup named [url] http://bit.ly/1EG8mPj[/url]

total former

_Tyrrell_ wrote: »

Wallabies squad for the world cup named [url] http://bit.ly/1EG8mPj[/url]

Horwill out, Mumm and Douglas in. Cheika as ruthless as ever.

Only two hookers is a risk.

molloyjh

total former wrote: »

Horwill out, Mumm and Douglas in. Cheika as ruthless as ever.

Only two hookers is a risk.

I think that's a crazy squad. 2 hookers is a massive risk. But how could Douglas deserve to be there? He hasn't seen the right side of form in over a year now and only got a couple of minutes against NZ. I think that's a really poor call from Cheiks. Then there's Phipps' selection ahead of Nic White and Coopers inclusion as well.....

.ak

2 hookers and 2 scrumhalves. Absolutely throwing the dice.