Denis O'Brien, Catherine Murphy and the threatening lawsuit letters....

Streetwalker

TallGlass wrote: »

Another Tribunal, the answer to everything. My arse, get this in front of the EU ASAP. Bankers/business men still up to no good and the EU still in **** over it.

I don't want to see DOB locked up, I want to see him hit with a massive fine, billions if possible he doesn't deserve half of what he has, most of it on the foot of the tax payer by the looks of what I read online.

Ireland cannot do this because the goverment are retarded, someone should bring this to Europe. They won't bat an eyelid at him and his scare tactics, in fact it would enrage them more . Hopefully hit him with a massive fine and trust me he can't go running from the EU.

I actually feel contacting someone in the German goverment would do more than contacting a local TD.

It's a sad state of affairs when that last statement is true.

darkpagandeath

Chucken wrote: »

I think it's just dawning on them that we have voices and opinions. They got away long enough with only letting us know what they wanted us to know.

Remember this when you vote for party's that have members that want to censor the web.

johnty56

Is there not a queue of litigation against the Irish government as a result of tribunal findings that 'someone' used undue influence to obtain a telecommunications licence, as in the Govt being sued by the failed bidders..
This whole thing will cost the state alot of hospitals, schools, garda stations, roads, you know.. the kinds of things a citizenry needs. Oh well, as long as Dennis is happy.

cml387

Thank you DeVore. I have posted this link on Facebook as well.

Uncle Ben

TallGlass wrote: »

Another Tribunal, the answer to everything. My arse, get this in front of the EU ASAP. Bankers/business men still up to no good and the EU still in **** over it.

I don't want to see DOB locked up, I want to see him hit with a massive fine, billions if possible he doesn't deserve half of what he has, most of it on the foot of the tax payer by the looks of what I read online.

Ireland cannot do this because the goverment are retarded, someone should bring this to Europe. They won't bat an eyelid at him and his scare tactics, in fact it would enrage them more . Hopefully hit him with a massive fine and trust me he can't go running from the EU.

I actually feel contacting someone in the German goverment would do more than contacting a local TD.

Someone should bring it to CAB!

RecordStraight

Uncle Ben wrote: »

Someone should bring it to CAB!

I'd love to see a certain corrupting influence in Irish society banged up next to his Tipperary facilitator.

silverfeather

Des Carville worked as an adviser to siteserv and on esat deal for Denis O'Brien. He joined the Department of Finance 18 months after the Siteserv deal, where he oversees the State’s shareholding in Irish banks. He declared it as a conflict of interest. He was advising Denis and siteserve and working in the dep of finance.

Chucken

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Remember this when you vote for party's that have members that want to censor the web.

I've never voted FF or FG. I will admit to voting Labour last time but never again.

silverfeather

Chucken wrote: »

I've never voted FF or FG. I will admit to voting Labour last time but never again.

Who now though ??

Chucken

silverfeather wrote: »

Who now though ??

Anyone who isn't FF/FG/ LAB?

darkpagandeath

silverfeather wrote: »

Who now though ??

With revelations like this I can't think of anyone but Independents. But cant see that being a government that can get anything done.

DeVore

weldoninhio wrote: »

You can not be sued for reporting something that has been said in the Dail.

No but you can be threatened with lawsuit as the Broadsheet have and just getting into court to prove you are innocent can cost quite a bit (hence why other media outlets have taken their pieces down).

Whether or not you are ACTUALLY guilty or you can even be sued, that's kinda secondary sometimes

Chucken

darkpagandeath wrote: »

With revelations like this I can't think of anyone but Independents. But cant see that being a government that can get anything done.

Could it get any worse? I'm serious.

DeVore

independents would turn the dail back into a debating chamber where votes ACTUALLY MATTERED rather then the abandoned rubber-stamping station it currently is.

darkpagandeath

Chucken wrote: »

Could it get any worse? I'm serious.

Pass.

silverfeather

silverfeather wrote: »

It's why the media won't tough him. Fear of powerful litigation is ....powerful.

And that he owns half the media in the first place (the government owns a huge chunk of the rest)

silverfeather

darkpagandeath wrote: »

With revelations like this I can't think of anyone but Independents. But cant see that being a government that can get anything done.

Avril Power just went independent.

silverfeather

Deleted User wrote: »

And that he owns half the media in the first place (the government owns a huge chunk of the rest)

He can close off access to the other half and make it difficult for them too.

RecordStraight

Chucken wrote: »

Could it get any worse? I'm serious.

Sinn Fein wanted us to do what Syriza are doing. Greece is in collapse and we are recovering - so yes, it could be worse.

silverfeather

RecordStraight wrote: »

Sinn Fein wanted us to do what Syriza are doing. Greece is in collapse and we are recovering - so yes, it could be worse.

We shouldn't have to pay this price for that though.

Chucken

RecordStraight wrote: »

Sinn Fein wanted us to do what Syriza are doing. Greece is in collapse and we are recovering - so yes, it could be worse.

Let Angela rewrite their agreement then!

And it's not Syrizas fault Greece are where they are.

RecordStraight

silverfeather wrote: »

We shouldn't have to pay this price for that though.

Well the jury's still out on exactly went on. As I've said above, it looks like Noonan was furious when he learned what happened, so to suggest it's part of some sort of FG plot looks a tad premature.

If anything is proved though, I'd like to see people in prison.

Blowfish

silverfeather wrote: »

But why then is the professional Irish media ignoring it?

They will report on it, just do it indirectly, just as RTE have just done.

Dyr

Correct me if I'm wrong but was'nt the judge who presided over the protection of poor denis a recent FG appointee?

DeVore

Ok, but this thread isn't a debate on the future of the dail or the prom note (and I include myself in that mock-scolding ).

FalconGirl

RecordStraight wrote: »

Sinn Fein wanted us to do what Syriza are doing. Greece is in collapse and we are recovering - so yes, it could be worse.

As good as we are doing, misuse of taxpayer funds must still be punished no matter who is involved.

tayto lover

RecordStraight wrote: »

Well the jury's still out on exactly went on. As I've said above, it looks like Noonan was furious when he learned what happened, so to suggest it's part of some sort of FG plot looks a tad premature.

If anything is proved though, I'd like to see people in prison.

With the write-down, favourable contracts for SiteServ etc ....I just wonder.
That and the previous Esat deal ......hmmmm.

silverfeather

Bambi wrote: »

Correct me if I'm wrong but was'nt the judge who presided over the protection of poor denis a recent FG appointee?

You're not wrong.

silverfeather

tayto lover wrote: »

With the write-down, favourable contracts for SiteServ etc ....I just wonder.
That and the previous Esat deal ......hmmmm.

Des Carvill has a lot to answer to.

TallGlass

Blowfish wrote: »

They will report on it, just do it indirectly, just as RTE have just done.

Had to LOL at this on the RTE page;

Mr O'Brien today accused Ms Murphy of making false statements about him. He said it was a deliberate abuse of Dáil privilege.
He claimed her ultimate objective was electoral advancement with a disregard for the truth.

You would actually swear that he is not the one blocking the truth from coming out.

Blowfish

Incidentally, if the video starts disapearing, this is where the oireachtas uploads it's official recordings so it'll be fully available there for the next while at least...

Chucken

DeVore wrote: »

Ok, but this thread isn't a debate on the future of the dail or the prom note (and I include myself in that mock-scolding ).

It's about censorship. Yes. But if they keep up this keeping the likes of DOB happy, how long before they wade in here?

*Remembering the Sherlock debate* Sure he was trying to tell you that we don't need to know certain things.

DeVore

"Journalism is printing what someone else does not want printed. Everything else is public relations." -- George Orwell.

RecordStraight

FalconGirl wrote: »

As good as we are doing, misuse of taxpayer funds must still be punished no matter who is involved.

Most definitely.

silverfeather

tayto lover wrote: »

With the write-down, favourable contracts for SiteServ etc ....I just wonder.
That and the previous Esat deal ......hmmmm.

One wonders how far back this goes actually.

VinLieger

Chucken wrote: »

Let Angela rewrite their agreement then!

And it's not Syrizas fault Greece are where they are.

Nope it's the Greek people and their refusal to acknowledge reality

silverfeather

Blowfish wrote: »

Incidentally, if the video starts disapearing, this is where the oireachtas uploads it's official recordings so it'll be fully available there for the next while at least...

That is very awkward to navigate. :-/

keeponhurling

This is indeed a huge scandal for the government.

However the people have been saturated by corruption and scandals, so it won't register as much as it should.

Would not surprise me if Enda still refuses to even discuss it

silverfeather

keeponhurling wrote: »

However the people have been saturated by corruption and scandals, so it won't register as much as it should.

We need to make sure it registers! We can have to share it! Keep sharing links etc.

Banjo String

VinLieger wrote: »

Nope it's the Greek people and their refusal to acknowledge reality

This thread is not about Greece, Sinn Fein, or any other cute distraction.

darkpagandeath

Banjo String wrote: »

This thread is not about Greece, Sinn Fein, or any other cute distraction.

One would hope the mods keep an eye on trying to derail the thread and get it closed.

Uncle Ben

keeponhurling wrote: »

This is indeed a huge scandal for the government.

However the people have been saturated by corruption and scandals, so it won't register as much as it should.

Would not surprise me if Enda still refuses to even discuss it

Enda will blame it on the man with two pints or Gerry Adams.

silverfeather

darkpagandeath wrote: »

One would hope the mods keep an eye on trying to derail the thread and get it closed.

Good point! You're very clever!

silverfeather

I hope some independants join Catherine Murphy in keeping it on the agenda. Any links to what others have said?

TallGlass

I wonder could a website be set up, remember WikiLeaks got donations or something along them lines that people can donate to there cause if bully's like DOB try putting the ****s up them. As stated on this thread, costs can be 100k+ , I would happily give a 5€ to keep information free flowing and not held by one person controlling 1/2 and paying to keep the rest shut.

RecordStraight

It would be gas if this brought down the government.

keeponhurling

Uncle Ben wrote: »

Enda will blame it on the man with two pints or Gerry Adams.

Referring to Gerry Adams' past is FG Reaction 1.1 to all scandals.

Anyways, in Enda's own words

“Paddy likes to know what the story is” – Ireland’s Taoiseach-in-waiting promises to tell the truth

tayto lover

Paddy's not being told what's going on Enda.

Banjo String

silverfeather wrote: »

I hope some independants join Catherine Murphy in keeping it on the agenda. Any links to what others have said?

Stephen Donnelly, and RBB here.

http://www.broadsheet.ie/2015/05/07/the-ministers-cover-up-has-failed/

FalconGirl

The amounts involved in all this stuff are staggering. Makes the FIFA lads look like choirboys:pac: