Denis O'Brien, Catherine Murphy and the threatening lawsuit letters....

jimgoose

silverfeather wrote: »

Well they have a better chance than our lot or the maltese!

Yes they have. Certain Americans are very, very cheesed off with Mr. Fathead going back a while, because some of his more "questionable" activity has cost them a *lot* of money.

silverfeather

jimgoose wrote: »

Yes they have. Certain Americans are very, very cheesed off with Mr. Fathead going back a while, because some of his more "questionable" activity has cost them a *lot* of money.

I am not too aware of that. I knew about a defamation case in California. But what else was he up to?

darkpagandeath

TallGlass wrote: »

Surprised there hasn't been a DOS attack on the oireachtas.ie website been honest :pac:

I think it's out of a certain persons sphere of knowledge. Maybe they could look up Low Orbit Ion Cannon (LOIC) :P

silverfeather

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I think it's out of a certain persons sphere of knowledge.

Knowledge can be hired.

jimgoose

silverfeather wrote: »

I am not too aware of that. I knew about a defamation case in California. But what else was he up to?

Have a look at the whole GSM licensing/ESAT Digifone caper, and Motorola's dim view of it.

darkpagandeath

silverfeather wrote: »

Knowledge can be hired.

True

ballsymchugh

i've a funny feeling that #redactedmovies will be the choice for friday afternoons movies and booze on moncrieff. if he'll read any of them out is another thing

jimgoose

TallGlass wrote: »

Surprised there hasn't been a DOS attack on the oireachtas.ie website been honest :pac:

That'd be a bit amateur, even for Captain Fathead.

darkpagandeath

jimgoose wrote: »

That'd be a bit amateur, even for Captain Fathead.

I wonder what kind of backup model that website has, My dealings with Government body's in the past tells me I should be very worried.

shane7218

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I wonder what kind of backup model that website has, My dealing's with Government body's in the past tells me I should be very worried.

backup ?? Fat Chance

Eugene Norman

Chucken wrote: »

People can bring down a government. WE are the people. I've never been as angry in my life. The whole thing just stinks.

Labour could exit this government. That's all I see.

hatrickpatrick

JillyQ wrote: »

It fairly difficult to get state contracts,I know when you do tender you have to go through hoops with tax clearence certs etc.

Yes but that's exactly the point - "connected" people like DOB seem to get them far more often. My point is, he was found by Moriarty to have bribed a TD. He and any company he is involved with at a senior level should be permanently banned from any further involvement with state or semi state projects.

Look I know it sounds harsh, but harsh penalties are the only way to force these gobsh!tes to play by the rules. Unfortunately, I believe some sections of Irish society have lived in a politically privileged bubble for so long (in some cases generations) that they must be forced, not taught, to behave ethically.

darkpagandeath

Eugene Norman wrote: »

Labour could exit this government. That's all I see.

May sound silly, Would that bring the government down due to not having a majority ? And force an election ?

darkpagandeath

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Yes but that's exactly the point - "connected" people like DOB seem to get them far more often. My point is, he was found by Moriarty to have bribed a TD. He and any company he is involved with at a senior level should be permanently banned from any further involvement with state or semi state projects.

Look I know it sounds harsh, but harsh penalties are the only way to force these gobsh!tes to play by the rules. Unfortunately, I believe some sections of Irish society have lived in a politically privileged bubble for so long (in some cases generations) that they must be forced, not taught, to behave ethically.

Do you think if this happened in the UK it would have the same media black out ? Or would there be massive uproar and high court challenges.

silverfeather

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Do you think if this happened in the UK it would have the same media black out ? Or would there be massive uproar and high court challenges.

I dunno look at the MP peado ring. Look at Jimmy Saville and the gagging orders he had.

Eugene Norman

darkpagandeath wrote: »

May sound silly, Would that bring the government down due to not having a majority ? And force an election ?

Yes. That's what I mean. The only way to change government. Labour might gain some votes from it, but I doubt it.

jimgoose

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I wonder what kind of backup model that website has, My dealings with Government body's in the past tells me I should be very worried.

Meh. Obviously Fathead can pay to have anything removed/destroyed in this corrupt little sh1thole, until he is stopped by a civilised jurisdiction.

mickdw

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Do you think if this happened in the UK it would have the same media black out ? Or would there be massive uproar and high court challenges.

Ryan giggs had a fair go at creating a media blackout but it had the opposite effect. Hopefully this will go the same way and Mr redacted will only succeed in digging a hole so big that an entire government can fall in

darkpagandeath

jimgoose wrote: »

Meh. Obviously Fathead can pay to have anything removed/destroyed in this corrupt little sh1thole, until he is stopped by a civilised jurisdiction.

I have to admit I'm not a huge fan of the EU/EZ but they have their uses. I wonder if it has registered yet in our partners minds. As a Foreigner I think Ireland needs outside help on this one. Have been here over 2 decades and seen how things are run something needs to be done as the voice of the people seems to get silenced.

jimgoose

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I have to admit I'm not a huge fan of the EU/EZ but they have their uses. I wonder if it has registered yet in our partners minds. As a Foreigner I think Ireland needs outside help on this one. Have been here over 2 decades and seen how things are run something needs to be done as the voice of the people seems to get silenced.

I was thinking more along the lines of Illinois or Texas than any Europrats.

Eugene Norman

The most apalling thing is that, at the time when the tax payer is on the ropes to bail out a previously corrupt bank the public official charged with taking it over, according to Murphy, grants a special deal to a man already proven to be corrupt by a tribunal.

It's just the knowledge that they can get away with it.

Eugene Norman

jimgoose wrote: »

I was thinking more along the lines of Illinois or Texas than any Europrats.

I don't think anything has been done to harm the U.S. or in U.S. jurisdictions. Pity.

mickoc

1.4% he is paying on his loan? I pay 4.5% on mine and he has at least a thousand thousand million more Euro then I have. Where is the fairness.

darkpagandeath

Eugene Norman wrote: »

The most apalling thing is that, at the time when the tax payer is on the ropes to bail out a previously corrupt bank the public official charged with taking it over grants a special deal to a man already proven to be corrupt by a tribunal.

It's just the knowledge that they can get away with it.

I don't know this could be a watershed moment Fingers crossed you can only turn public opinion so far against you until that opinion becomes toxic.

Smiles35

Twin us with Delaware. Wait for a landing craft full of accountants.

hatrickpatrick

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Do you think if this happened in the UK it would have the same media black out ? Or would there be massive uproar and high court challenges.

I don't know, to be honest. The UK is not a nation I would have chosen as a model for freedom of speech - look how DA-notices were used to quickly dampen the Snowden scandal when it first broke. For a long time, even such outlets as the BBC were nervous about reporting fully on GCHQ stories, and the Guardian's UK office was invaded by special agents who supervised the forced destruction of computer equipment storing the top secret documents.

So... I wouldn't aspire to have a media system like the UK's. We need a constitutional right to freedom of speech in Ireland which makes it difficult or impossible to censor people in court. Libel laws should further be restricted to printing untruths about people - currently, they are often used to silence true, but embarrassing stories on technical grounds.

darkpagandeath

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I don't know, to be honest. The UK is not a nation I would have chosen as a model for freedom of speech - look how DA-notices were used to quickly dampen the Snowden scandal when it first broke. For a long time, even such outlets as the BBC were nervous about reporting fully on GCHQ stories, and the Guardian's UK office was invaded by special agents who supervised the forced destruction of computer equipment storing the top secret documents.

So... I wouldn't aspire to have a media system like the UK's. We need a constitutional right to freedom of speech in Ireland which makes it difficult or impossible to censor people in court. Libel laws should further be restricted to printing untruths about people - currently, they are often used to silence true, but embarrassing stories on technical grounds.

Was only using our nearest neighbour as an example.

silverfeather

darkpagandeath wrote: »

I don't know this could be a watershed moment Fingers crossed you can only turn public opinion so far against you until that opinion becomes toxic.

It's not exposed enough. People are not talking about it enough.

darkpagandeath

silverfeather wrote: »

It's not exposed enough. People are not talking about it enough.

Odd I'm trying to find the twitter trending and a person is not mentioned.

Tony EH

Funny...none of the usual suspects running to Dinny's rescue on Boards?

It must be late.

Schrodingers

silverfeather wrote: »

GM sierra didn't sorry the company that got the metering contract. Catherine Murphy raised that.

It wasn't a regged company until two weeks after the closing date for the bids.

Ive seen reference to them also getting a contract for the vodafone/esb broadband roll out

Can anyone confirm this

Grab All Association

Schrodingers wrote: »

Ive seen reference to them also getting a contract for the vodafone/esb broadband roll out

Can anyone confirm this

Yes they did. (ESB/Vodafone) Siro

http://www.irishtimes.com/business/companies/siteserv-wants-d%C3%A1il-record-amended-on-murphy-speech-1.2221517

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

darkpagandeath wrote: »

Odd I'm trying to find the twitter trending and a person is not mentioned.

#DenisOBrien is trending at number 2.

hatrickpatrick

Tony EH wrote: »

Funny...none of the usual suspects running to Dinny's rescue on Boards?

It must be late.

Their overtime hours were cut. Where did you imagine IBRC got the money to finance DOB's extravagance in the first place?

darkpagandeath

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

#DenisOBrien is trending at number 2.

thanks.

Irelandcool

Is it to late to request an extradition so we can have him put on trial. Oh wait no that's only work if you piss off america (aka like FIFA). He should be arrested.

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

darkpagandeath wrote: »

thanks.

I'd like if #redaction could get going? :pac::pac::pac:

silverfeather

#redactionDeniso'brian

darkpagandeath

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo wrote: »

I'd like if #redaction could get going? :pac::pac::pac:

Apparently it does not work :P

Kermit.de.frog

meh, whole thing stinks of mindless begrudgery tbh.

darkpagandeath

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

meh, whole thing stinks of mindless begrudgery tbh.

http://i.imgur.com/iWKad22.jpg

:pac:

Tangatagamadda Chaddabinga Bonga Bungo

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

meh, whole thing stinks of mindless begrudgery tbh.

Begrudging the possible misappropriation of public money isn't a bad thing tbh. :pac::pac::pac:

Schrodingers

Tony EH wrote: »

Funny...none of the usual suspects running to Dinny's rescue on Boards?

It must be late.

Took awhile but they have started to arrive

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

meh, whole thing stinks of mindless begrudgery tbh.

Kermit.de.frog

Where is the same level of outrage at social welfare fraud?...which is also the thieving of taxpayers money. Double standards propped up by begrudgery.

darkpagandeath

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Where is the same level of outrage at social welfare fraud?...which is also the thieving of taxpayers money. Double standards propped up by begrudgery.

Do you mean the no existent stuff that the SW office looked into and reported on how low it was ? and tackled.

MightyMandarin

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Where is the same level of outrage at social welfare fraud?...which is also the thieving of taxpayers money.

Social welfare fraud is horrible, but this is a case where one man unfairly kept millions which should have gone to the govt.; one social welfare dodger is not equitable to this.

billy few mates

Chucken wrote: »

No need to insult the people of Malta over that slimeball.

People of Malta aren't called "Maltesians..."

darkpagandeath

billy few mates wrote: »

People of Malta aren't called "Maltesians..."

Maltin

Kermit.de.frog

Does not matter how many abuse welfare. It is theft of our money. Rich or poor should get equal justice and punishment.

darkpagandeath

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Does not matter how many abuse welfare. It is theft of our money. Rich or poor should get equal justice and punishment.

Can the few people who do it silence the media ?