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mr170

I bought the note 4 global version in Dublin city centre today 32gb and I asked whats the difference between the two model's and I was told the note 4 x won't get the android 7 update. My Note 4 is in the middle of updating to Android 7.

Trevord

shamelessidiot wrote: »

So they are two different phones somehow. The 4X is intended for China, as a copy of the global Snapdragon variant of the Note 4. :rolleyes:

I want to buy a 3GB/32GB Note 4, anyone know what shops have European warehouses other than honourbuy? (None in stock)

The 4X has no support for 4g on 800 and probably comes with Chinese ROM only, requiring that it be unlocked and flashed (open to correction on the latter).

With honorbuy EU you have to take DHL postage which costs almost 30 euro - that pushes the prices up a bit, even if it means quick delivery.

Mishop.ie have the Note 4 64gb version in stock for €229. The 32gb is out of stock

https://www.mishop.ie/product-category/phones/xiaomi-phones/xiaomi-redmi-note-4/

Here it is on aliexpress for 170 euro from China (customs would be about €40 on top of that). I bought from that store - took 3 weeks to arrive in customs and had tracking and registered post. (But you can get it cheaper elsewhere online.)

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Global-Version-Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-4-Mobile-Phone-3GB-RAM-32GB-ROM-Snapdragon-625-Octa-Core/2178148_32795263337.html?spm=2114.12010108.1000023.1.7d847a7m135jj

NATLOR

shamelessidiot wrote: »

So they are two different phones somehow. The 4X is intended for China, as a copy of the global Snapdragon variant of the Note 4. :rolleyes:

I want to buy a 3GB/32GB Note 4, anyone know what shops have European warehouses other than honourbuy? (None in stock)

Geekbuying have that phone shipping from three different European warehouses. The global version has band 20
Gold colour available from Italy warehouse for €164 delivered

https://www.geekbuying.com/item/International-Version-Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-4-3GB-32GB-Smartphone---Gold-381852.html

funkey_monkey

Do most of you buy the 3GB/32GB version of the Note 4 or the 4GB/64GB version?
Is it worthwhile purchasing the 4GB version - if you are a light/standard user?

Also, is there any UK sellers for these or must you go through someone with a HK warehouse?

Suckit

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Do most of you buy the 3GB/32GB version of the Note 4 or the 4GB/64GB version?
Is it worthwhile purchasing the 4GB version - if you are a light/standard user?

Also, is there any UK sellers for these or must you go through someone with a HK warehouse?

3GB/32GB should be more than good enough for a light/standard user.
The 4X does not have dual band Wifi nor band 20/800mHz (pretty much required 4G in Ireland & EU) on most versions but the Global version does.
The 4X has a better camera and has Bluetooth 4.2 (Note 4 has BT 4.1). (
The 4X global version (not international version) is better but only very slightly. (Over the Note 4).

The Global version can be bought on 3GB/32GB Geekbuying (Black) - https://www.geekbuying.com/item/Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-4X-3GB-RAM-32GB-ROM-Smartphone---Black-381860.html

Or 4GB/64GB from Geekbuying Italy (Gold) - https://www.geekbuying.com/item/Official-Gloabl-ROM-Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-4X-4G-64GB-Smartphone---Gold-383230.html

Other colours and versions there, just make sure to choose the Global version, and an EU warehouse.

cmac2009

Hi All

Question for any Xiaomi experts! Currently running MIUI 8 on a MI4C. One issue that has happened after an update, in the gallery app the search box is showing chinese characters, when I click into the app first it shows 'search image' but then instantly changes to chinese characters.

Anyone experienced anything like this? Just annoying more than anything!

My mi max 2 according to tracking as been in London since the 12th

No update since

2017-09-12 18:00，LONDON / In transit-it's progressing through Post network

pajor

I've been thinking about getting a new phone recently, just thinking so far. Have had my Jiayu S3 for almost 2 years now, it's still great though. Don't really have any reason to change.

What sites are the best these days for stock from EU warehouse? There used to be 2 Aliexpress sellers in the OP, but they seem to no longer be that active.

Suckit

You can now buy any Xiaomi Smartphone from Mi Global Store at Aliexpress and you will not need to pay VAT when you select DHL shipping.

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/3010045
I have not checked the prices to see if they are worth it. It is DHL express, so even though it says 7 -15 days, i would expect it in less than a week.

For example the Redmi Note 4 Global 3GB/32GB is €158.78

They do not seem to have the Redmi Note 4X Global 3GB/32GB is €151.43 which is available from Italy or Germany on Geekbuying.

corkie

Suckit wrote: »

For example the Redmi Note 4 Global 3GB/32GB is €158.78

That linked device doesn't have Band 20, so is probably the 4X

Suckit

corkie wrote: »

That linked device doesn't have Band 20, so is probably the 4X

I see that now. It is the 4 for sure, maybe the description is incorrect, as it is the "official" Global version.

The 4X above from Geekbuying is also the Global version and does not include Band 20 (800mHz). (Although the 4X Global should).

Xiaomi are very confusing with their names. I think the Redmi Note 4X Global version and the Redmi Note 4 International version are the versions we need for 4G in Ireland/Europe, but they have an International version 4X that does not have Band 20, and looks like a Global version 4 that does not have it..

I have sent them off a message anyway , asking if they could confirm if that version does or does not have Band 20.

Edited.

In any case, it looks like they have discontinued the 4X that does have Band 20.
http://www.techadvisor.co.uk/review/android-smartphones/xiaomi-redmi-note-4x-review-3658711/

ED E

GLOBAL = Software (ROM)
International = Hardware(Bands)

cmac2009

cmac2009 wrote: »

Hi All

Question for any Xiaomi experts! Currently running MIUI 8 on a MI4C. One issue that has happened after an update, in the gallery app the search box is showing chinese characters, when I click into the app first it shows 'search image' but then instantly changes to chinese characters.

Anyone experienced anything like this? Just annoying more than anything!

Can someone confirm they have same chinese characters on their gallery app? I've had a response on MIUI official forum and seems as if this was always there. I always though search image was in english, not chinese characters. Only noticed since I updated to MIUI 8

Suckit

ED E wrote: »

GLOBAL = Software (ROM)
International = Hardware(Bands)

That is not entirely true. The Global 4X had Band 20, still does if you can find anyone with any in stock.
The Software can often determine the bands. The LTE global bands are often all available in the SOCs and e.g. Xiaomi can choose whether or not to enable them.

It seems to be whatever the seller chooses to call it.
There are working Roms for both the Note 4X and Note 4 (SD625 version) that unlock Band 20. I do not know where to get them though.

corkie

Suckit wrote: »

It seems to be whatever the seller chooses to call it.
There are working Roms for both the Note 4X and Note 4 (SD625 version) that unlock Band 20. I do not know where to get them though.

Both of the devices 4 & 4X use the same roms, (MIDO). It is a myth that you can enable extra bands by software if the device doesn't have the hardware!

Suckit

corkie wrote: »

Both of the devices 4 & 4X use the same roms, (MIDO). It is a myth that you can enable extra bands by software if the device doesn't have the hardware!

The 4X global rom is mentioned on this thread - https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/xiaomi-global-phones-with-band-20-xiaomi-eu-rom.39300/

There are plenty of custom roms.
You could Root it using this method https://technewswith.me/root-xiaomi-redmi-note-4
and install Network Signal Guru

http://en.miui.com/thread-423947-1-1.html

A more complicated guide for the oneplus 3 https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/how-to/guide-unlock-additional-lte-bands-t3519563

corkie

Suckit wrote: »

The 4X global rom is mentioned on this thread - https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/xiaomi-global-phones-with-band-20-xiaomi-eu-rom.39300/

There are plenty of custom roms.
You could Root it using this method https://technewswith.me/root-xiaomi-redmi-note-4
and install Network Signal Guru

http://en.miui.com/thread-423947-1-1.html

A more complicated guide for the oneplus 3 https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/how-to/guide-unlock-additional-lte-bands-t3519563

Different device, plenty of threads of people attempting to unlock extra bands. But most reports in the threads of not been successful.


I will repeat if the device doesn't have the supported hardware,
You can not unlock extra bands by software/root/roms/apps.

IT IS A CLICK BAIT MYTH!

Suckit

corkie wrote: »

Different device, plenty of threads of people attempting to unlock extra bands. But most reports in the threads of not been successful.


I will repeat if the device doesn't have the supported hardware,
You can not unlock extra bands by software/root/roms/apps.

It is hardly click bait..
The devices in question do have the correct hardware, but maybe not the antenna. It was possible to unlock certain bands on Qualcomm devices in the past but it may not be possible for these. The SD625 SoCs have all LTE bands present, they are just locked or fused to their target market as it is cheaper for the manufacturers.
That said, depending on how they are locked down and without antenna it is pointless.
I do not have either of these phones so i can not comment on what is inside them etc. I will take your word that it is not possible to unlock them at the moment and assume there is no antenna if it were.

cmac2009

cmac2009 wrote: »

Can someone confirm they have same chinese characters on their gallery app? I've had a response on MIUI official forum and seems as if this was always there. I always though search image was in english, not chinese characters. Only noticed since I updated to MIUI 8

Anyone?

funkey_monkey

Suckit wrote: »

3GB/32GB should be more than good enough for a light/standard user.
The 4X does not have dual band Wifi nor band 20/800mHz (pretty much required 4G in Ireland & EU) on most versions but the Global version does.
The 4X has a better camera and has Bluetooth 4.2 (Note 4 has BT 4.1). (
The 4X global version (not international version) is better but only very slightly. (Over the Note 4).

The Global version can be bought on 3GB/32GB Geekbuying (Black) - https://www.geekbuying.com/item/Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-4X-3GB-RAM-32GB-ROM-Smartphone---Black-381860.html

Or 4GB/64GB from Geekbuying Italy (Gold) - https://www.geekbuying.com/item/Official-Gloabl-ROM-Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-4X-4G-64GB-Smartphone---Gold-383230.html

Other colours and versions there, just make sure to choose the Global version, and an EU warehouse.

Hi, I was actually looking at the Note 4 and not the 4X - as the 4X does not have band 20 (what Corkie was saying) - checked this again on Kimovil:

https://www.geekbuying.com/item/International-Version-Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-4-3GB-32GB-Smartphon----Gray-376547.html

https://www.geekbuying.com/item/Offical-Global-Version-Xiaomi-Redmi-Note-4-4G-64GB-Smartphone---Gray-379094.html


Read the text in red for this Note 4X. when you update the ROM it changes to a Note 4 - but there is stil no mention of Band 20.
https://www.honorbuy.com/1078-xiaomi-redmi-note-4x-official-global-rom-32gb-smartphone-gray.html



So, it would seem like the Note 4 is still the one for me. Upgrading to a 4GB/64GB device is an extra £20. Would I notice the difference and is it worth it?

cas2kx

https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/wiki/general/network

Band 20 is used to provide LTE in non-urban areas and it's not supported by all Xiaomi phones.
B20:
Mi MIX 2
Mi A1
Mi Note 2 Global Edition
Redmi Note 4 Global Version
Redmi 4A Global Version
Redmi 4X Global Version
Redmi Note 3 Special Edition
Redmi 3S Global Version

Suckit

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Hi, I was actually looking at the Note 4 and not the 4X - as the 4X does not have band 20 (what Corkie was saying) -
So, it would seem like the Note 4 is still the one for me. Upgrading to a 4GB/64GB device is an extra £20. Would I notice the difference and is it worth it?

You personally may not notice the difference in what the 4GB will bring, but if you download apps/games and take many photos and videos, it should be worth the difference for the storage and power.

cas2kx wrote: »

https://www.reddit.com/r/Xiaomi/wiki/general/network
Band 20 is used to provide LTE in non-urban areas and it's not supported by all Xiaomi phones.
B20:
Mi MIX 2
Mi A1
Mi Note 2 Global Edition
Redmi Note 4 Global Version
Redmi 4A Global Version
Redmi 4X Global Version
Redmi Note 3 Special Edition
Redmi 3S Global Version

I have a feeling that the Note 4X Global Version with Band 20 may be discontinued. The Geekbuying version says it is the Official Global Version, but does not mention Band 20
Which is in this article mentioned above http://www.techadvisor.co.uk/review/android-smartphones/xiaomi-redmi-note-4x-review-3658711/

ED E

Suckit wrote: »

That is not entirely true. The Global 4X had Band 20, still does if you can find anyone with any in stock.
The Software can often determine the bands. The LTE global bands are often all available in the SOCs and e.g. Xiaomi can choose whether or not to enable them.

It seems to be whatever the seller chooses to call it.
There are working Roms for both the Note 4X and Note 4 (SD625 version) that unlock Band 20. I do not know where to get them though.

But thats not accurate at all.

Saying Note 4X is like saying iPhone, which one? There are at least 5 models using that monicker. Global again refers to the software version. According to any official(or sortof) source theres no B20.



Some Chinese OEMs licence a reduced band set on the same chipset and thus have hardware for a little more than is enabled. Its not the rule, but in those cases you can use some very awkward Qualcomm software to unlock the remaining bands. Do it wrong and the phone is f'cked. With MTK I'm not sure of the procedure is, same for HiSilicon.

Double C

Does anyone know if you can change the menu and back buttons around on the 4X? I'm left handed and am more used to having the back button on the left side. I was able to do it on the Mi5, but not so far on this one. T.I.A.

Suckit

ED E wrote: »

But thats not accurate at all.

Saying Note 4X is like saying iPhone, which one? There are at least 5 models using that monicker. Global again refers to the software version. According to any official(or sortof) source theres no B20.

Some Chinese OEMs licence a reduced band set on the same chipset and thus have hardware for a little more than is enabled. Its not the rule, but in those cases you can use some very awkward Qualcomm software to unlock the remaining bands. Do it wrong and the phone is f'cked. With MTK I'm not sure of the procedure is, same for HiSilicon.

I was referring to the Note 4X Global in these examples: Review, Product Link, This Forum thread

* Redmi Note 4(X) Global - "mido" firmware will support band 20. (2016102) Thanks @dogiex

and
Post

But i have since looked around and see that there is no official (of sorts) B20 version of the 4X. It is just crappy naming.
Anyway, it has taken up too much space and is derailing, so apologies.

@cmac2009
Not sure what you are referring to looking at this
http://c.mi.com/thread-7332-1-1.html

But the common answer from Xiaomi support after people have issues is "clean your cache"
Also try this

• Go to settings -> installed apps -> all
• Clear data search and search provider
• Reboot Phone

cmac2009

cmac2009 wrote: »

Can someone confirm they have same chinese characters on their gallery app? I've had a response on MIUI official forum and seems as if this was always there. I always though search image was in english, not chinese characters. Only noticed since I updated to MIUI 8

Anyone confirm they are seeing same thing??

thanks

Scotty #

cmac2009 wrote: »

Can someone confirm they have same chinese characters on their gallery app? I've had a response on MIUI official forum and seems as if this was always there. I always though search image was in english, not chinese characters. Only noticed since I updated to MIUI 8

I'm on MIUI 8.5 but I have no search box in the Gallery App.

cmac2009

Scotty # wrote: »

I'm on MIUI 8.5 but I have no search box in the Gallery App.

Thanks Scotty. So strange, not sure why its there as I'm running xiaomi.eu rom.

dball

dball wrote: »

I'm lost here:
When i go int my contacts list on Icloud i can only see about 25 / 30 contacts,

Yet there hundreds of contacts on my phone - between gmail contacts, linkedin contact and others there are at least 300 - maybe more.

I've looked on itunes back up and on icloud but I cant find where i can put them all into one list.

I'm doing this as I am jumping ship and moving to android.

Then i have to go about importing a full contact list onto a new android

Anyone any tips or ideas where i should start?
Thanks in advance

thanks

Digital Solitude

dball wrote: »

thanks

Is there a way to backup your icloud or LinkedIn contacts to .csv (I think its csv) or import them into your google contacts?

When you set up your google account on the phone all the contacts there will be imported