1st PC BUILD.....

GJAerLingus · 01-06-2015 10:35pm #1

I`ve decided to take the plunge and assemble a PC for the first time. The PC will be mainly used for Microsoft Flight Simulator X (FSX). Here is a parts list I did: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/MbwXqs

Are there any better value websites than PC part picker?

Digital Solitude · 01-06-2015 10:39pm

Hardwareversand is what most here use.
Build is a bit unbalanced, I'd recommend an i5 4460 with a better card like a 280x or GTX 960. Thatd save another bit by using a H97 instead of Z97
Windows can be gotten for €20

Have you a defined budget?

Digital Solitude · 01-06-2015 10:42pm

Actually, I see that FSX is CPU bound. Get a Xeon 1231v3 in that case, with a H97 board. 750Ti should be fine.

GJAerLingus · 01-06-2015 10:48pm

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Actually, I see that FSX is CPU bound. Get a Xeon 1231v3 in that case, with a H97 board. 750Ti should be fine.

How can I get it for 20? Ideally, I would like my budget to be less as I am already a couple hundred over my initial budget.

Digital Solitude · 01-06-2015 10:51pm

Name a budget there and I'll try to squeeze in the best I can. I'll post a windows link with it

GJAerLingus · 01-06-2015 10:55pm

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Name a budget there and I'll try to squeeze in the best I can. I'll post a windows link with it

probably not even possible for what im looking for but 600-650

GJAerLingus · 01-06-2015 10:58pm

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/Xt9QvK

Digital Solitude · 01-06-2015 11:05pm

GJAerLingus · 01-06-2015 11:08pm

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Windows

Item|Price
Zalman T4 Mini-Tower - black mATX, without power supply|€€ 22
Intel Xeon E3-1231v3 Box, LGA1150|€€ 251
MSI N750Ti-2GD5 / OCV1|€€ 140
be quiet! PURE POWER L8 400W|€€ 49
Seagate Barracuda 7200 1000GB, SATA 6Gb / s|€€ 50
ASRock H81M-DGS R2.0, Socket 1150 mATX|€€ 41
8GB DDR3 PC3-12800 Crucial Ballistix Sport CL9 1600|€€ 53
Samsung SH-224DB black|€€ 12
Shipping|€18.99
Total|€632

652 all in OP. Shout if you've any questions

Thanks! I appreciate it!

Digital Solitude · 01-06-2015 11:10pm

No worries, its the same as your second build but in a smaller case with a weaker power supply, but you dont need a large one anyways.

GJAerLingus · 02-06-2015 4:31pm

Digital Solitude wrote: »

No worries, its the same as your second build but in a smaller case with a weaker power supply, but you dont need a large one anyways.

I was just wondering if there was anyway I could swap that Xeon for the I5 4690K considering they are of similar prices. What motherboard and case of a similar price to the parts mentioned above would be best? I`ve heard the I5 4690K has better performance when it comes to FSX. Also, do I need a wristband for building?

Digital Solitude · 02-06-2015 4:59pm

Better performance than the Xeon specifically? I'd be doubtful of that but I'll look into it. Its just a straight swap, everything else is compatible with he Xeon or 4690k.

You don't need one, but it can be handy. You can ground yourself off the inside of the case either

Digital Solitude · 02-06-2015 5:04pm

FSX doesn't use hyperthreading, SK yeah the i5 is actually a better option in this case! Are you going to be over clocking it?

GJAerLingus · 02-06-2015 5:49pm

Digital Solitude wrote: »

FSX doesn't use hyperthreading, SK yeah the i5 is actually a better option in this case! Are you going to be over clocking it?

I'll leave the option for overclocking open. I'll probably buy a cooler eventually for overclocking. Will the motherboard that was for the Xeon be compatible with the 4690k?

Digital Solitude · 02-06-2015 5:52pm

Yeah but you can't over clock on it. I'll link one now

GJAerLingus · 02-06-2015 5:57pm

Digital Solitude wrote: »

Yeah but you can't over clock on it. I'll link one now

Thanks!

Digital Solitude · 02-06-2015 5:58pm

http://www.hardwareversand.de/DDR3/166006/Gigabyte+GA-Z97M-DS3H%2C+Sockel+1150%2C+mATX.article?pvid=4q4n3q6of_iaf9wg00&ref=13 there's one there. Pushing the budget closer to €700 as Z boards are more expensive. Can get a decent cooler for €30 if you wanted to throw all into it at once, but its not a big job to add one later if you so wish

GJAerLingus · 02-06-2015 6:01pm

Digital Solitude wrote: »

http://www.hardwareversand.de/DDR3/166006/Gigabyte+GA-Z97M-DS3H%2C+Sockel+1150%2C+mATX.article?pvid=4q4n3q6of_iaf9wg00&ref=13 there's one there. Pushing the budget closer to €700 as Z boards are more expensive. Can get a decent cooler for €30 if you wanted to throw all into it at once, but its not a big job to add one later if you so wish

Ok, Thanks! Do i need that cooler even though I can`t overclock? I presume the I5 4690K comes with a default cooler and thermal paste?

Digital Solitude · 02-06-2015 6:07pm

You can over clock with the i5s default fan yes, not very much but on something like FSX it'd make a difference anyways. A new cooler would allow you to get bigger over clocks. You could chance the stock fan and decide afterwards if an OC is even necessary

GJAerLingus · 02-06-2015 6:20pm

HV20469KDE Intel Core i5-4690K Box, LGA1150 243,99 €
HV1143IFDE Gigabyte GA-Z97M-DS3H, Sockel 1150, mATX 82,71 €
HV20MI48DE 8GB-Kit Crucial Ballistix Sport Series DDR3-1600, CL9 54,99 €
HV203Z25DE Zalman T4 Mini-Tower - schwarz mATX, ohne Netzteil 25,99 €
HVR400L8DE be quiet! PURE POWER L8 400W 52,99 €
HV1031EZDE EVGA GeForce GTX750 Ftw,2G,Dvi-I+Hdmi+Dp,ACX Fan 141,99 €
HV13SB71DE Seagate Barracuda 7200 1000GB, SATA 6Gb/s 52,99 €
HV207SX8DE Samsung SH-224DB schwarz 13,99 €
HVZPCDE Rechner - Zusammenbau 29,99 €

Total value: 699,63 €

All prices are delivery prices

created with hardwareversand.de PC Configurator:
http://www.hardwareversand.de/pcconfigurator

Final parts list, a little over budget but worth it considering the CPU can overclock. I`ll probably do that if I buy a fan.

Digital Solitude · 02-06-2015 6:25pm

That adds €30 so you can knock that off if you're self building. Run the parts through geizhals.de now to knock a few euro off if you're self building

GJAerLingus · 02-06-2015 6:35pm

Digital Solitude wrote: »

That adds €30 so you can knock that off if you're self building. Run the parts through geizhals.de now to knock a few euro off if you're self building

Ok, Thanks.

GJAerLingus · 02-06-2015 6:44pm

Digital Solitude wrote: »

That adds €30 so you can knock that off if you're self building. Run the parts through geizhals.de now to knock a few euro off if you're self building

On geizhals.de, I managed to knock off 70 euro! Build cost is 627, can I order all these components together or do I have to buy them separately?

Digital Solitude · 02-06-2015 6:47pm

After geizhals brings you back to hwvs, you can add them to your basket and get the next part as normal, and order in bulk

GJAerLingus · 02-06-2015 6:56pm

Digital Solitude wrote: »

After geizhals brings you back to hwvs, you can add them to your basket and get the next part as normal, and order in bulk

Just wondering if there is anypoint of buying an overclocked CPU with a motherboard. Its a bundle I found on ebay:http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Intel-Core-I5-4690-3-9Ghz-Gigabyte-H81M-H-Motherboard-Cooler-Pc-Bundle-/371068598351?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item566569784f

Would this be good considering the CPU also comes with a cooler?

Digital Solitude · 02-06-2015 6:58pm

That isn't overclocked. Its running I'm turbo mode, not a real overclock

GJAerLingus · 02-06-2015 7:00pm

Digital Solitude wrote: »

That isn't overclocked. Its running I'm turbo mode, not a real overclock

Not worth it then? Would turbo mode be easy to configure?

Digital Solitude · 02-06-2015 7:02pm

Yeah its handy enough I'd say, I haven't bothered with my CPU though.

Digital Solitude · 02-06-2015 7:04pm

That bundle is €20 more expensive that what you're going for, its got the stock Intel cooler, same as you

GJAerLingus · 02-06-2015 7:13pm

Digital Solitude wrote: »

That bundle is €20 more expensive that what you're going for, its got the stock Intel cooler, same as you

I`ll stick to gezhals then. I can`t figure out how to extract the parts in bulk to HWVS, is there a tutorial somewhere on it?

Digital Solitude · 02-06-2015 7:18pm

I normally run each part through and open the HWVS link in a new tab, then the next one, so at the end I've 7 tabs for hwvs open, and just add the parts to the basket one by one.

So its i5 4690k, open in new tab, then PSU, open in new tab and so on add them all at the same time. If you can't work it, shout and I'll get the links for you

1st PC BUILD.....

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