Dark Souls 3

Mickeroo

Mickeroo wrote: »

Maybe luck scaling plays a part too.

Yeah something has changed with it from previous games, as RopeDrink mentioned Farron's I was thinking how the poison build up was very slow on me even with lowish resistance and how not dangerous it is now vs Toxic or Bleed if left unchecked for any length of time.

I'll play around with it later when I can get more supplies the merchant is locked out for the moment.

Been busy this morning as wee one is away with nana for the day so got to dark

firelink

and

Archdragon Peak

so many souls lost there

Took me ages to work out where to go and not get mauled or ganged up on. Then after the boss ignore the

summoned npcs

and go after the

summoner upstairs

I had

Havel

spawn in on me after taking out 3 weaker ones before I realised what was going on and why they were still coming

Mickeroo

I got the Bloodlust katana off the mound-makers covennt yesterday, only upgrades to +5 (which doesn't net you the achievement) but scales A with Dex. Finding it better than the uchi as I get 5 swings in instead of 4. It's special ability is pretty cool too. Also finding the Sunset Shield great.

Taltos

In the catacombs. Enjoying it so far.
Thought I found an easy spot to kill the

fire beast

, but he swiped me through the wall, 2 hits and I was a gonner...

johnny_ultimate

Yeah as neat as my Uchi still is, I've been mostly using the upgraded Irithyll Straight Sword as I can get several more hits with it. And have finally replaced the Uchi to experiment with a pyromancy flame as have unlocked some of the higher tier skills and they seem pretty devastating.

nix

Any of you guys rolling heavy magic builds? if so what are your stats like? looking to role one next, ive never done a magic build properly in a souls game yet

I'm nearing the end of the game and have been pretty much sword and board the whole way.

Evade

Is the 1.04 update out on PS4 yet?

johnny_ultimate

Yeah I'm playing a sorcery build. On SL60, currently at around 33/34 INT and attunement. Have obviously put a few points into health and endurance too, and boosted faith a bit (need to put more levels in there for pyromancy boosts).

Be warned that a sorcery build is rough going in the early game. You really need a few Estus upgrades before you can start casting more casually - that blue bar disappears quickly. Totally worth it for the late game, but you'll need something like the Uchi to get past the first dozen hours.

heebusjeebus

Evade wrote: »

Is the 1.04 update out on PS4 yet?

Ya, got it when I started the game on Monday.
It's only a calibration update so you get it when you login to the game server.

Taltos

Similar to Johnny, but capped it at 25 for INT and Faith to focus on Dex and Str for when magic doesn't cut it. Still mainly using the initial spells but experimenting with others. Switching between soul arrow and uchi to cover all bases.

sweetie

Great farming spot for souls at

Anor Londo bonfire. Suicidal Knight FTW!

Bought the tower key for the crack.

Mickeroo

Beat

Yhorm the giant

in my first go, he didn't even hit me once, maybe

Siegward showing up to help had something to do with it?

Absolute bull**** the way you

get teleported to the dancer fight straight away without kindling the bonfire though, pretty much guaranteeing you lose your souls straight away unless you beat her first time.

YouSavedMyLife

Mickeroo wrote: »

Beat

Yhorm the giant

in my first go, he didn't even hit me once, maybe

Siegward showing up to help had something to do with it?

Absolute bull**** the way you

get teleported to the dancer fight straight away without kindling the bonfire though, pretty much guaranteeing you lose your souls straight away unless you beat her first time.

Doesn't the fight only start if you place the bowl under the statue? I'm pretty sure i walked out of that room after being teleported there. I also beat Yhorm on my first attempt but i kinda cheated. Went in to fight him, but Sieg wasn't with me, must have missed something. I saw i was doing next to no damage to him so figured there was some kind of gimmick to the fight, picked the sword up off the ground and used Homeward Boner to gtfo

Was flicking through the Wiki to find a weapon suitable for my Paladin theme'd build and there is about 5 or 6 Faith scaling weapons in the WHOLE game and about 2 of them fit the Paladin theme. Demon Fist and Demon Great Axe have faith scaling but don't really fit the Fashion Souls im trying to go with. There's also a good few weapons that have FTH requirements, but don't scale with FTH? This has got to be a mistake. Only way i can get a Faith Scaling weapon is to imbue one I wan't to use cool looking stuff, not a boring ole Lightning Halberd

Mickeroo

YouSavedMyLife wrote: »

Doesn't the fight only start if you place the bowl under the statue? I'm pretty sure i walked out of that room after being teleported there. I also beat Yhorm on my first attempt but i kinda cheated. Went into to fight him, but Sieg wasn't with me, must have missed something. I saw i was doing next to no damage to him so figured there was some kind of gimmick to the fight, picked the sword up off the ground and used Homeward Boner to gtfo

Was flicking through the Wiki to find a weapon suitable for my Paladin theme'd build and there is about 5 or 6 Faith scaling weapons in the WHOLE game and about 2 of them fit the Paladin theme. Demon Fist and Demon Great Axe have faith scaling but don't really fit the Fashion Souls im trying to go with. There's also a good few weapons that have FTH requirements, but don't scale with FTH? This has got to be a mistake. Only way i can get a Faith Scaling weapon is to imbue one I wan't to use cool looking stuff, not a boring ole Lightning Halberd

So you have to use Siegward's sword? Ah that explains why there was two of them on the ground when I went back there. I didn't place the bowl at all for the dancer fight, it just kicked in after the old lady died.

adocholiday

Mickeroo wrote: »

Beat

Yhorm the giant

in my first go, he didn't even hit me once, maybe

Siegward showing up to help had something to do with it?

Absolute bull**** the way you

get teleported to the dancer fight straight away without kindling the bonfire though, pretty much guaranteeing you lose your souls straight away unless you beat her first time.

I seem to have had a different experience to pretty much everyone with this situation. I was reading all about this particular fact in the run up to the fight with

Yhorm

, that after you kill the

3 Lords of Cinder

you teleport

directly out to the dancer fight

.

I also had

Siegward join the fight

. After the fight I was able to

kindle the bonfire, and talk with Siegward to get a Siegbrau. I was teleported to Emma in the chapel but before I interacted with her I was able to go back to the bonfire where you fight the first boss and teleport to firelink to spend my souls etc.

.

I went back to

Emma

then and interacted with her to kick off the

Dancer fight

. I haven't seen a single other person who had this experience

nix

Mickeroo wrote: »

Beat

Yhorm the giant

in my first go, he didn't even hit me once, maybe

Siegward showing up to help had something to do with it?

Absolute bull**** the way you

get teleported to the dancer fight straight away without kindling the bonfire though, pretty much guaranteeing you lose your souls straight away unless you beat her first time.

Aye luckily i beat

Dancer

first time, just barely by the skin of my teeth though, i had about a CM of hp left and bang out of estus too.

Just finished the game now myself, great game, now to go and try a back stabby assassin type build or a mage of sorts "hummm hummm"

I've a good feeling i missed out on alot of NPC encounters, the

thief never made it back

and i never saw the

girl and her mute bodyguard after second encounter in FL shrine

and i never saw

the dude in the fat armour after the first time

Mickeroo

nix wrote: »

Aye luckily i beat

Dancer

first time, just barely by the skin of my teeth though, i had about a CM of hp left and bang out of estus too.

Just finished the game now myself, great game, now to go and try a back stabby assassin type build or a mage of sorts "hummm hummm"

I've a good feeling i missed out on alot of NPC encounters, the

thief never made it back

and i never saw the

girl and her mute bodyguard after second encounter in FL shrine

and i never saw

the dude in the fat armour after the first time

You find the

thief dead in the sewer near Distant Manor bonfire, you get his ashes and give them to the merchant in firelink.

YouSavedMyLife

nix wrote: »

Aye luckily i beat

Dancer

first time, just barely by the skin of my teeth though, i had about a CM of hp left and bang out of estus too.

Just finished the game now myself, great game, now to go and try a back stabby assassin type build or a mage of sorts "hummm hummm"

I've a good feeling i missed out on alot of NPC encounters, the

thief never made it back

and i never saw the

girl and her mute bodyguard after second encounter in FL shrine

and i never saw

the dude in the fat armour after the first time

Aye there is alot to be missed for people playing it blind, including a whole area with 2 bosses (Which i also missed) Am playing through it again with a new character with the Wiki on hand to finish questlines i failed the first time round.

Mickeroo wrote: »

You find the

thief dead in the sewer near Distant Manor bonfire, you get his ashes and give them to the merchant in firelink.

Apparently he can be saved. He died here on my playthrough as well but Sieg will save him if you continue both of their quests in tandem. I was late on saving Sieg from the well and he was never in the Sewers to save Greirat

JakeArmitage

just finished the game

Mickeroo

JakeArmitage wrote: »

just finished the game

Mow the real Dark Souls begins :pac:

F1ngers

JakeArmitage wrote: »

just finished the game

Now you need to see the other three endings.

"Real Dark Souls starts now".

Mickeroo

Mickeroo wrote: »

So you have to use Siegward's sword? Ah that explains why there was two of them on the ground when I went back there. I didn't place the bowl at all for the dancer fight, it just kicked in after the old lady died.

No no read the lore on them, I was really fascinated by that characters story and it will mention why there are 2 of them.

The 1st

sword

is actually available beside the thrown right away , realistically it would be only possible to equip it then if you have the other guy engaged with the boss other wise solo you wouldn't get a window maybe.

What really annoyed me about the teleport was if you haven't done

3 lords

as you walk away after talking to the character you will hear

him collapse behind you and turn around to see his souls on the ground

I was robbed of a feels moment

YouSavedMyLife

YouSavedMyLife wrote: »

Aye there is alot to be missed for people playing it blind, including a whole area with 2 bosses (Which i also missed) Am playing through it again with a new character with the Wiki on hand to finish questlines i failed the first time round.

Apparently he can be saved. He died here on my playthrough as well but Sieg will save him if you continue both of their quests in tandem. I was late on saving Sieg from the well and he was never in the Sewers to save Greirat

I found him

dead on the roof of the grand archieves after his 3rd outing

, from what I read after i found him is that many agree it's

unavoidable

I'm not sure though. It is very much tied to

Siegward

so maybe the fact he

died after the boss fight gets the thief killed

and was most likely

Patches

given his interest.

Digital Solitude

JakeArmitage wrote: »

just finished the game

Now we need a review

nix

haha who the **** is

pacthes??

:eek: totally missed him


I'm currently doing co op on last boss, farming souls, is the souls reward for co-op around the same? how close to someones level do i have to be for them to summon me?

nix

nix wrote: »

haha who the **** is

pacthes??

:eek: totally missed him


I'm currently doing co op on last boss, farming souls, is the souls reward for co-op around the same? how close to someones level do i have to be for them to summon me?

You not played the other games? He essentially

screws you over in all the games in some way

nix

Deleted User wrote: »

You not played the other games? He essentially

screws you over in all the games in some way

Is he the guy who

kicks you over the edge

in DS1?

Who is he in DS2? i played that inside out, is he the guy who's on the hunt for Pate?

YouSavedMyLife

nix wrote: »

Is he the guy who

kicks you over the edge

in DS1?

Who is he in DS2? i played that inside out, is he the guy who's on the hunt for Pate?

He isn't in DS2, but alot of people consider Pate to be a homage to Patches considering they have the same weapon, shield and armor. Hes also a tricky ****.

So i just read

Horace the Hushed

armour description and it turns out he is actually Smough! Good ****

Oh i misread the description. His armour was owned by a corrupted Executioner that was killed and stripped of his armour (Smough?) And he himself was one of two Children to escape Aldritch's clutches.

Icaras

Does anyone know if ng+ is more like dark souls 1 (harder) or dark souls 2 (harder with extra enemies)

Ng+ was something ds2 did get right.

johnny_ultimate

I promised myself I wouldn't berate this game :pac:

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

I don't see how it's possibly better left out? The key thing is, it's all completely optional (well, invasions aside, but they're rare and hilariously cruel). Co-op is a welcome addition to ensure players don't get left behind (yes purists, 'get gud' is advice of sadly limited usefulness) - for all its engaging, engrossing challenge, one cannot forget that there's this amazing, secret filled world to explore and beautifully told story / lore to tease out. Co-op is a sensible way to ensure that players of all - well, most - skill levels can engage with that and not have to quit out of frustration (I'm still sure some will of course, and even in co-op you still need a serious grasp of the mechanics and rules). Terrifically satisfying to be the phantom helping out somebody too. As for PVP, it's almost completely ignorable, but has and will continue to add layers of extra depth for those who commit to it.

Let's not forget the messages either, praise the sun! The way there remains a layer of arcane mystery to all the MP systems helps it all fit nicely into the DS tone and style too IMO.

As I said, the beauty with Dark Soul's multiplayer is it gives as much or as little as the player is willing to give it. Think co-op screws up the balance of the boss fights or makes them too easy? No problem, easily ignorable: engaging in co-op requires an active decision from the player. But if bosses are endlessly kicking your ass and you're eager to move on, the developers have offered tools to perhaps help you along. Totally your choice, and that's why it would be a massive shame to lose them.

To say its optional is like starting and FPS game with a BFG but being told not to use as it breaks the game. Are you going to use it? Of course you are. I just wish I didn't have the option to use it at all. I am weak willed.

The co-op breaks the engrossing accomplishment of the game. I enjoy slowly making my way through, taking in each area bit by bit, learning all the enemy spawns and nuances. Having an ability to essentially the cut the difficulty by 3/4 or so belittles that. What's the point of putting myself through the pain and eventual euphoria. I feel like I've cheated whenever I summon, but then I feel like I'm wasting my life if I'm dying multiple times at the same point. If co-op wasn't there, I wouldn't feel like that. I'm torn and I don't like it.

Although I quite like the other aspects, especially the blood splatter death replays. I saw some player getting impaled on thin air in a church but there was no enemy nearby. I can only assume that unassuming guy on the chair nearby will have something to do with it.