Dark Souls 3

nix

Mickeroo wrote: »

Did you

cure yourself of the dark sigil? Or kill anri or anything like that?

What level you at that far in? I'm probably going to stop at 120 myself for PvP. It's handy having the option to re-spec too if i want to.

Not sure what level, prob around the 120 mark, ill check later when at home.

You can only cure yourself through the fire maiden yeah? paying like 80k souls? didnt do that..

I did go down the route where i help Anri kill adritch and then killed her in the same place i killed horace, but Yuria ran before that, maybe it was when i killed the chamelon in the church?

Digital Solitude

For anyone on NG+, do I lose all items from the Handmaiden in the Shrine?

Evade

Digital Solitude wrote: »

For anyone on NG+, do I lose all items from the Handmaiden in the Shrine?

You do.

Mickeroo

Digital Solitude wrote: »

What console are you on? I was using the Lotric Knight Sheild, you have zero stability benefit from it without the strength but still absorb 87% of lightning damage, so I was rocking it for the fight, super useful

I'll give that a go tomorrow, think I can use the king's ring to get enough STR to wield it, though tbh the lightening damage hasn't been an issue. I can usually kill the dragon no problem and get the king to about half health, but one mistake or mistimed roll does me in.

nix wrote: »

Not sure what level, prob around the 120 mark, ill check later when at home.

You can only cure yourself through the fire maiden yeah? paying like 80k souls? didnt do that..

I did go down the route where i help Anri kill adritch and then killed her in the same place i killed horace, but Yuria ran before that, maybe it was when i killed the chamelon in the church?

There you go

killing the chameleon assassin makes her leave too.

Pickpocket

I'm 19 hours in and only halfway through the Cathedral of the Deep. It's my first Souls game so it was painfully slow at the beginning. In fact, I've made more progress in the past 4 hours than I did in the first 16. I'm combing through each area and just generally taking my time so I'm not bothered if it takes me 200 hours to get through it. I'm loving every second.

I'm a Knight and currently at level 46.

Vigor 24
Attunement 10
Endurance 19
Vitality 18
Strength 27
Dexterity 12
Intelligence 9
Faith 9
Luck

As you can see, I want to be strong with the ability to move as quickly as possible while carrying heavy weapons and armour. However, I know sweet feck all about the deeper mechanics of the game so should I still be trying to increase my stats in other areas?

For example, will faith and intelligence have any bearing on a pure strength build? Similarly, would the ability to carry dexterity based weapons combine well with my strength?

Do these various attributes overlap and influence each other in unexpected ways?

Anyway, those are some of my concerns. It's all trial and error and I feel like I'm picking it up bit by bit, but I don't want to go too far in the wrong direction.

Evade

Pickpocket wrote: »

I'm a Knight and currently at level 46.

Vigor 24
Attunement 10
Endurance 19
Vitality 18
Strength 27
Dexterity 12
Intelligence 9
Faith 9
Luck


As you can see, I want to be strong with the ability to move as quickly as possible while carrying heavy weapons and armour. However, I know sweet feck all about the deeper mechanics of the game so should I still be trying to increase my stats in other areas?

Keep focusing on those stats. You might need a little more DEX later on to meet the minimum requires for some weapon you might want to use later on but cross that bridge when you come to it.

In case you didn't already know the weight ratio (top right of the equip screen) determines how fast you roll and how fast your stamina regenerates. 30% or less is fastest, not really doable with your build. 69.9% or less is medium, you should aim for this. 70% or more is the slowest.

Pickpocket wrote: »

For example, will faith and intelligence have any bearing on a pure strength build? Similarly, would the ability to carry dexterity based weapons combine well with my strength?

Aside from weapon requirements you won't need INT or FAITH either.

Pickpocket wrote: »

Do these various attributes overlap and influence each other in unexpected ways?

No.

Pickpocket wrote: »

Anyway, those are some of my concerns. It's all trial and error and I feel like I'm picking it up bit by bit, but I don't want to go too far in the wrong direction.

YouSavedMyLife

Pickpocket wrote: »

I'm 19 hours in and only halfway through the Cathedral of the Deep. It's my first Souls game so it was painfully slow at the beginning. In fact, I've made more progress in the past 4 hours than I did in the first 16. I'm combing through each area and just generally taking my time so I'm not bothered if it takes me 200 hours to get through it. I'm loving every second.

I'm a Knight and currently at level 46.

Vigor 24
Attunement 10
Endurance 19
Vitality 18
Strength 27
Dexterity 12
Intelligence 9
Faith 9
Luck

As you can see, I want to be strong with the ability to move as quickly as possible while carrying heavy weapons and armour. However, I know sweet feck all about the deeper mechanics of the game so should I still be trying to increase my stats in other areas?

For example, will faith and intelligence have any bearing on a pure strength build? Similarly, would the ability to carry dexterity based weapons combine well with my strength?

Do these various attributes overlap and influence each other in unexpected ways?

Anyway, those are some of my concerns. It's all trial and error and I feel like I'm picking it up bit by bit, but I don't want to go too far in the wrong direction.

Weapons scale off the 4 main offensive stats, strength, dexterity, faith, intelligence and in some rare cases luck. Dex wont affect anything about a strength weapon, but if that weapon has any dex scaling at all it will increase damage as you put points into it. There is a soft cap at 40 for STR and DEX, which means the damage gains you get from increasing said stat over 40 are lessened.

So say a weapon has a scaling of B in STR and a B in DEX once you hit 40 in either stat you will gain more damage from increasing the other stat instead of going over 40 in your "main" stat. Faith and Intelligence won't affect your strength build other than adding weapon buffs to your weapon, but some of the better buffs require a hefty number of FTH/INT points. Dex also affects casting speed for spells..

Digital Solitude

Pickpocket wrote: »

I'm 19 hours in and only halfway through the Cathedral of the Deep. It's my first Souls game so it was painfully slow at the beginning. In fact, I've made more progress in the past 4 hours than I did in the first 16. I'm combing through each area and just generally taking my time so I'm not bothered if it takes me 200 hours to get through it. I'm loving every second.

I'm a Knight and currently at level 46.

As you can see, I want to be strong with the ability to move as quickly as possible while carrying heavy weapons and armour. However, I know sweet feck all about the deeper mechanics of the game so should I still be trying to increase my stats in other areas?

No, for pure Melee you want Vigor,Endurance, Vitality and Dex/Str

For example, will faith and intelligence have any bearing on a pure strength build? Similarly, would the ability to carry dexterity based weapons combine well with my strength?

Only if you want to have basic miracles or spells, for pure Melee there's no need to bump Int, Faith or Attunement

Do these various attributes overlap and influence each other in unexpected ways?

Not really, AFAIK they're all pretty independant aside from Faith/Intelligence with Attunement

Anyway, those are some of my concerns. It's all trial and error and I feel like I'm picking it up bit by bit, but I don't want to go too far in the wrong direction.

Answered in the quote, have you heavily reinforced your weapon?

Also, there's no need to put strength above 40, and a Vigor of 25 or 30 should be enough to clear the game with. I had 25 Endurance but you might need as much as 30, Heavy weapons consume more stamina and you'll probably want 25-30 Vitality to start.

If you're going pure strength then dex is only a minimum requirement to carry some weapons, and vice versa for dex builds

nix

Pickpocket wrote: »

I'm 19 hours in and only halfway through the Cathedral of the Deep. It's my first Souls game so it was painfully slow at the beginning. In fact, I've made more progress in the past 4 hours than I did in the first 16. I'm combing through each area and just generally taking my time so I'm not bothered if it takes me 200 hours to get through it. I'm loving every second.

I'm a Knight and currently at level 46.

Vigor 24
Attunement 10
Endurance 19
Vitality 18
Strength 27
Dexterity 12
Intelligence 9
Faith 9
Luck

As you can see, I want to be strong with the ability to move as quickly as possible while carrying heavy weapons and armour. However, I know sweet feck all about the deeper mechanics of the game so should I still be trying to increase my stats in other areas?

For example, will faith and intelligence have any bearing on a pure strength build? Similarly, would the ability to carry dexterity based weapons combine well with my strength?

Do these various attributes overlap and influence each other in unexpected ways?

Anyway, those are some of my concerns. It's all trial and error and I feel like I'm picking it up bit by bit, but I don't want to go too far in the wrong direction.

Well im currently like:

Vigor 30
Attunement 20
Endurance 30
Vitality 25
Strength 40
Dexterity 12
Intelligence 10
Faith 45
Luck

And using dragonslayer greataxe which does lightning damage and i have read the faith increases lightning damage (bloody well hope it does) and im doing insane damage.

So if you have a weapon that has stats in one of the elementals or you infuse a weapon into a certain elemental, then they scale well.

So like, to my knowledge, INT covers magic and fire and Faith covers lightning and dark.

But if you're all out physical, id get strength to 40 and then dex to 40, whichever order you prefer, depending on what weapons you wanna use

Digital Solitude

nix wrote: »

But if you're all out physical, id get strength to 40 and then dex to 40, whichever order you prefer, depending on what weapons you wanna use

40-40 is a bit redundant I think, there aren't many weapons with B-B or better scaling in both stats. It does allow you to use any melee based weapon I guess, but there would be a lot of wasted points if you were doing any PvP

nix

Digital Solitude wrote: »

40-40 is a bit redundant I think, there aren't many weapons with B-B or better scaling in both stats. It does allow you to use any melee based weapon I guess, but there would be a lot of wasted points if you were doing any PvP

It raises the weapon damage though no? so not good to raise both to soft cap?

Evade

nix wrote: »

It raises the weapon damage though no? so not good to raise both to soft cap?

If you had the points it might be better to diversify a bit and put those 40 points into INT or FAITH.

Digital Solitude

nix wrote: »

It raises the weapon damage though no? so not good to raise both to soft cap?

If you've only like a C or D scaling in one of them then each point is only adding like 1-2 points, it's not worth it for 30 levels to add like 40 points.

Imo the 30 odd points split into Attunemeny, Faith and Int will give you a few starter miracles, spells and hexes which will do more damage and allow more versatility than just melee.

To each their own of course, that's just my views

nix

Ah yeah i went str/faith, im just saying if you want physical only, then doing 40/40 str/dex would squeeze most of the damage you can get that way for physical

froog

so what are people's favourite type of weapon? i'm using greatswords right now but find them quite slow but i'm thinking of switching to a rapier for faster hits and better in hallways and such. also would free up some weight for better armour.

think if i playthrough a second time i might go for something really fast like daggers.

Digital Solitude

froog wrote: »

so what are people's favourite type of weapon? i'm using greatswords right now but find them quite slow but i'm thinking of switching to a rapier for faster hits and better in hallways and such. also would free up some weight for better armour.

think if i playthrough a second time i might go for something really fast like daggers.

Katanas were my favourite in the first two games, I liked the Uchi in this but it definitely won't carry me through NG+, considering giving the Chaos Blade a whirl, I loved it in Bloodborne. The Uchigatana is the new scrublord weapon so I'm looking to move away from it before NG+, I probably won't use it again either.

Dual weapons were great in Bloodborne, hopefully they'll be good here too, haven't tried any yet, Dual Wielding small weapons were good in Dark Souls 2.

Rapiers are pretty good in this, I really liked the Rapier at the beginning, Dual Rapiers are stunlocking machines in PvP.

Spears are iffy, handy for turtling behind a shield and avoiding damage but if someone gets inside the range then it can be hard to kill them, so I find them subpar for PvP or areas that require careful footwork.

Regular Straight Sword is a top notch move set, always dependable for most enemies, slashing and piercing damage is available to you.

I never liked Greatswords of Ultra Greatswords, too slow and I always preferred rolling through a swing than catching it on a shield so I can't comment on them, but the Claymore is decent when two handed.

If you're going on Daggers, then Dual Wielding is probably the way to go.

This is all my own experiences with weapons, obviously most weapons are viable.

Digital Solitude

Also, is carry weight a straight switch at 30% and 70% or is there a gradient like Dark Souls 2? I've been keeping mine about 45-55% if I can but will let it up to 68% or so if there's no speed loss. I think I've noticed it but looking for confirmation

Retr0gamer

Stuck on the Abyss Watchers but don't mind. One of the best boss fights from have done.

froog

so i finally summoned someone to help with

pontiff sulyvan

. That ****er is hardcore, don't know how anyone can beat him solo! kinda feel like i've a cheated a bit, do people generally summon much for bosses?

froog

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Stuck on the Abyss Watchers but don't mind. One of the best boss fights from have done.

incredibly atmospheric. i felt sad in that fight for reasons i don't know why. the music i guess!

Temptamperu

I hate the boss fights so I summon for every fight. Maybe im not doing it right but i am in it for the exploration and discovery of it all and the bosses get in my way.

Temptamperu

Temptamperu wrote: »

I hate the boss fights so I summon for every fight. Maybe im not doing it right but i am in it for the exploration and discovery of it all and the bosses get in my way.

Loads will say yes you are doing it wrong , but they are the ones who are wrong. You are doing it right if you are enjoying the game in playing it in a way that suits YOU, Simple as that

J. Marston

In NG+, if you've maxed out your Estus, can you do anything with the respawned shards?

Molly

I'm thinking of picking this up. Should I play Dark Souls 1 and 2 beforehand?

J. Marston

Molly wrote: »

I'm thinking of picking this up. Should I play Dark Souls 1 and 2 beforehand?

I'd recommend playing Dark Souls 1 before it. I wouldn't say it was absolutely necessary but you would get so much more from the experience.

J. Marston

J. Marston wrote: »

In NG+, if you've maxed out your Estus, can you do anything with the respawned shards?

Pickle Pee might give you a slab I think for either a bone fragment or chard can't recall which.

ANyone else getting a lot of disconnects and being booted to the title screen on Xbox tonight?

froog

"hey you know those assholes that reduce your max health?"

"ha! ya i hate those pricks!"

"here's 5 of them."

"...."

Temptamperu

Cathedral of the Deep is quite tough, manageable but tough. I'm not looking forward to the boss.

johnny_ultimate

Adventures in the

Archives

ME: Hmm... Here's an ominous, dark, fog shrouded room with two crystal geckos but no visible enemies. Bet you there's an unpleasant surprise lurking in here somewhere!

*10 seconds later, anxiously rolling away from a

bookcase

*

ME: Oh, From, never change.