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Worst premiership transfer?

  • 04-06-2015 3:36am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Oranage2


    With this season over I think we have another 2 to challenge the other 2 big failed transfers of all time.


    1. Andy Carroll - 35m, at the time he was something like the 8th highest transfer of all time to but it into context. Anyone in world football could see he was a donkey with fitness problems and less than professional attitude...everyone except king Kenny that is.

    2. Fernando Torres - 50m, he had some injury problems but did have a good spell before Chelsea bought him, just a season before that he was one of the best strikers in the world, fast forward 6 months and he could even hit an open goal. One of the biggest falls from grace.

    3. Falcao - loan - big reputation, big wages, 16m big. Had a decent start before not looking even good enough for league 1. Flop Flap, miss is the best way to describe his united career.

    4. angel di Maria - 60 to 68 million. Another united player to have started well, the chip against Leicester was unbelievable, but that chip seemed to symbolizes the rest of his career, like a ball falling, so did his form. Regularly kept out of the team by Ashley Young which says more than actual words could. United fans say it's too early to judge him a flop but let's be honest, there's no come back for the flamboyant Argentine.


    poll to follow.


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,084 ✭✭✭✭Kirby


    I think to write off Falcao and Di Maria after a single season in which United played patchy football at best, is hugely premature.

    Torres went to chelsea for a massive fee and left for peanuts. Similarly, Carrolls value plumetted and was sold for half of what he cost.....and many felt Liverpool were blessed to get even that. If Di Maria was sold tomorrow, he'd likely go for the same money that United paid. Whatever about his form, you cant really call that a flop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Thierry Henry to Sky for 24 million


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,366 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Brian Laudrup

    Runners Up:
    William Prunier
    Sean Dundee
    Winston Bogarde
    Ali Dia


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    Jose Reyes - Once a very highly rated player he joined Arsenal and got trolled by a radio station into thinking Madrid wanted him, he started well but left with a whimper.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,402 ✭✭✭✭Collie D


    Kirby wrote: »
    I think to write off Falcao and Di Maria after a single season in which United played patchy football at best, is hugely premature.

    Torres went to chelsea for a massive fee and left for peanuts. Similarly, Carrolls value plumetted and was sold for half of what he cost.....and many felt Liverpool were blessed to get even that. If Di Maria was sold tomorrow, he'd likely go for the same money that United paid. Whatever about his form, you cant really call that a flop.

    Happy to give di Maria another season. For first 8/9 games of the season he was looking like an early contender for player of the year. Poor for the rest after injury. More to come. As for Falcao....won't miss him


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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    To add to the above...

    Shevchenko
    Soldado
    Santa Cruz
    Brolin
    Jeffers


    There's too many to mention!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,839 ✭✭✭Caovyn Lineah


    No mention of Veron yet?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    Why don't you add the wages for the other transfers?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,846 ✭✭✭✭Liam McPoyle


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    To add to the above...

    Shevchenko
    Soldado
    Santa Cruz
    Brolin
    Jeffers


    There's too many to mention!

    God, remember Frannie Jeffers!! Was it arsenal he joined?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    God, remember Frannie Jeffers!! Was it arsenal he joined?

    Yep. Was pretty big money at the time. Perhaps a record Arsenal transfer, not 100% on that though


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭prettyboy81


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    Yep. Was pretty big money at the time. Perhaps a record Arsenal transfer, not 100% on that though

    The fox in the box


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭MythicalMadMan


    Falcao 14/4 Welbeck 18/4

    Falcao 6 million - Chico loan = 4 million

    Welbeck 16 million + Wages 3 million + hotel bills 10k + fuel costs for season 500 + kit changes + 400 + wear and tear of bench in 2nd half of season 100

    This shows that welbeck was at least 4 times a flop as Falcao :eek:

    Boy is your face red Id say

    But the look on your face Pricless

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,640 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Bebe....... A transfer that stunk to high heaven, seemed to be more about lining pockets than football. Made Sepp & the boys look straight!


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,333 ✭✭✭bad2dabone


    God, remember Frannie Jeffers!! Was it arsenal he joined?

    Yeah for eight million in 2001. A bad signing no doubt. Not quite at the level of some of the other flops mentioned, but still, a definite flop.
    But he's got 2 fa cup medals and a league winners medal.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Defending flops is a kind of flop in itself!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭MythicalMadMan


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    Defending flops is a kind of flop in itself!

    Pointing out stupidity behind bizzare parameters chosen seemingly at random is why the internet was created.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Pointing out stupidity behind bizzare parameters chosen seemingly at random is why the internet was created.

    It's hard to disagree with any names mentioned so far though


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,579 ✭✭✭MythicalMadMan


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    It's hard to disagree with any names mentioned so far though

    I don't know his reasoning is bizzare as I said it seems somewhat random, hard to take it seriously in any way to either agree or disagree, some more cinical folk might even say he was trolling not me though cause that would be against the old charter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 19,889 ✭✭✭✭The Moldy Gowl


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    It's hard to disagree with any names mentioned so far though

    Think he is just on about the fee being quoted for falcao including his wages in order for it to be more sensationalist. The wages aren't included for the others.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,276 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    van wolfswinkle deserves a mention


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,212 ✭✭✭shamrock55


    Before this season i would have said carroll, but now it has to be di maria for his pricetag and general ****ness, the guy has been hopeless


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,225 ✭✭✭marklazarcovic


    taibi ,im gonna say curdrado for chelsea already,salah for chelsea,boateng for city... mario fcking balotelli for lfc... grrrrr,should not have gotten started


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    Falcao flopped, there's no doubt about that but he isn't anywhere near a list of worst premier league transfers simply because there was no transfer fee.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,276 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    Falcao flopped, there's no doubt about that but he isn't anywhere near a list of worst premier league transfers simply because there was no transfer fee.

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    :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,345 ✭✭✭keeponhurling


    To be in th running for this award, really it should be somebody who cost a huge amount and produced virtually nothing. (And had no significant sell-on value)

    Free transfers such as Laudrup, or loans such as Falcao aren't genuine contenders.

    Surprised nobody mentioned Robinho yet


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    batistuta9 wrote: »
    66b0j.gif

    :pac:

    Good for you. Suppose logic and the soccer forum have never really gone hand in hand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,518 ✭✭✭matrim


    Bosco Balaban


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,205 ✭✭✭fyfe79


    It has to be Ali Dia. Pretended to be George Weah's cousin and got a Premiership game out of it.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Dia


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,276 ✭✭✭batistuta9


    Good for you. Suppose logic and the soccer forum have never really gone hand in hand.

    such pedantry though, maybe he could update the thread to signing instead of transfer! was only a joke anyway


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,382 ✭✭✭✭greendom


    To be in th running for this award, really it should be somebody who cost a huge amount and produced virtually nothing. (And had no significant sell-on value)

    Free transfers such as Laudrup, or loans such as Falcao aren't genuine contenders.

    Surprised nobody mentioned Robinho yet

    Falcao cost more in loan fees and wages than a lot of other flops.

    €6million for a one year deal and €18million in wages. Cheap as chips!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,290 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    Besides the obvious ones Carroll, Torres

    Stewart Downing to Liverpool - £20m -awful transfer and ridiculous money for such a limited player.

    Shevchenko to Chelsea - A huge £30m at the time, came with the reputation of one of Europe's most feared strikers right at his peak. Managed 9 goals in 48 appearances. Huge flop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 53,262 ✭✭✭✭GavRedKing


    Chelsea have had a few, the main two, Torres and Shevchenko were brought in above the managers heads at the time, although it was said that Carlo was somewhat keen on Torres but wanted Aguero more, who went to City in the same window for less money. :o

    Honourable mentions from Chelsea also include, Veron, Del Horno.

    This year alone has seen two big flops, Balotelli and Falcao, Di Maria hasnt been bad but he hasnt exactly justified his fee just yet.

    Mangala at stages looked terrible for the price but he seemed to be settling nicely in the last half a dozen games.

    Robinho and Torres are contenders, but for me its Carroll, was the ultimate we've got money after Torres and need to spend it panic buy and Newcastle took Pool to the cleaners.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,294 ✭✭✭LiamoSail


    Jose Reyes - Once a very highly rated player he joined Arsenal and got trolled by a radio station into thinking Madrid wanted him, he started well but left with a whimper.

    Belongs no where near this list IMO.

    From memory, Arsenal paid roughly £19m for him before selling him on for something like £12 to 14m. Not a huge loss by any stretch and he had a few good seasons with them, at least one in which he was very good.

    Obviously between homesickness and his moaning about Gary Neville kicking him, he faded out towards the latter end of his Arsenal spell, but overall I don't think he was a bad signing, certainly no where near deserving of a place on this list.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    Veron. A massive fee, at the time and never recreated his Serie A form.

    Flop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,294 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    One player - Torben Piechnik

    ******



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    batistuta9 wrote: »
    such pedantry though, maybe he could update the thread to signing instead of transfer! was only a joke anyway

    It wouldn't make a difference. It was a loan deal with an option to buy by all accounts, completely removed the risk of it becoming a huge transfer failure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,882 ✭✭✭Saipanne


    It wouldn't make a difference. It was a loan deal with an option to buy by all accounts, completely removed the risk of it becoming a huge transfer failure.

    And it didn't cost a penny...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    Saipanne wrote: »
    And it didn't cost a penny...

    Who said that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,745 ✭✭✭✭AdamD


    Ozil obviously


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,038 ✭✭✭circadian


    Downing to Liverpool or Carroll for me.


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  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,408 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    LiamoSail wrote: »
    Belongs no where near this list IMO.

    From memory, Arsenal paid roughly £19m for him before selling him on for something like £12 to 14m. Not a huge loss by any stretch and he had a few good seasons with them, at least one in which he was very good.

    Obviously between homesickness and his moaning about Gary Neville kicking him, he faded out towards the latter end of his Arsenal spell, but overall I don't think he was a bad signing, certainly no where near deserving of a place on this list.

    He actually only cost 10.5m with a possible rise to £17m depending on success (Sevilla may have got money after the title win, i'm not sure). The Arsenal transfer record fee was only £16m (Cazorla) until Ozil two seasons ago.


  • Registered Users Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Hamadeusentman


    Corrado Grabbi from Ternana to Blackburn. 6.75 million in 2001. Waste of space. Spent three seasons, scoring twice.


  • Registered Users Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Hamadeusentman


    rarnes1 wrote: »
    To add to the above...

    Shevchenko
    Soldado
    Santa Cruz
    Brolin
    Jeffers


    There's too many to mention!

    But Santa Cruz to Blackburn from Bayern was brilliant business. Around 3 million I think.


  • Registered Users Posts: 735 ✭✭✭Hamadeusentman


    bad2dabone wrote: »
    Yeah for eight million in 2001. A bad signing no doubt. Not quite at the level of some of the other flops mentioned, but still, a definite flop.
    But he's got 2 fa cup medals and a league winners medal.

    Also has the distinction of having a 100% goalscoring record with England. Played one, scored one (v Australia).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,273 ✭✭✭racso1975


    Spurs have had a few peaches. Sodaldo mainly comes to mind


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,026 ✭✭✭duffman13


    Erik Lamela, looked a class act with Roma, Spurs throw a msssive bid in and Lamela turns to crap.

    Massimo Taibi 5 million for a couple of disastrous games. Veron a good player but never hit the heights expected.

    Kirkland for Liverpool, remember them paying 7 million IIRC and a few mates banging on about this fella. Honourable mentions for Diao and Diouf on the back if the world cup in 2002.

    Jeffers already mentioned for Arsenal, Arshavin was another. Looked like he was gonna be the next big thing. Threw his toys out of the pram after he got taxed half his wages and bar one or two memorable performances disappeared of the radar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,294 ✭✭✭✭citytillidie


    duffman13 wrote: »
    Erik Lamela, looked a class act with Roma, Spurs throw a msssive bid in and Lamela turns to crap.

    Massimo Taibi 5 million for a couple of disastrous games. Veron a good player but never hut the heights expected.

    Kirkland for Liverpool, remember them paying 7 million IIRC and a few mates banging on about this fella. Honourable mentions for Diao and Diouf on the back if the world cup in 2002.

    Jeffers already mentioned for Arsenal, Arshavin was another. Looked like he was gonna be the next big thing. Threw his toys out of the pram after he got taxed half his wages and bar one or two memorable performances disappeared of the radar.

    May not have played much but kept Liverpool in the Champions League with a great display V Juventus in the Quarter Final

    ******



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,222 ✭✭✭✭Will I Amnt


    What Spurs did with the Bale money was a collective flop.
    Eriksen being the saving grace.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,463 ✭✭✭Kiwi_knock


    Alfonso Alves at Boro. At the least the top teams who signed duds had other players to replace them, but Boro had to rely on Alves all season and ultimately got relegated.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,507 ✭✭✭Underground


    Mateja Kezman.


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