Worst premiership transfer?

bullvine

Its got to be Shevchenko, Chelsea got no money back for him, at least Liverpool got some back for Carroll as did United with Veron and Veron did contribute to a title win, not hugely but still made a contribution!

Bobby Baccala

Darren Bent to spurs was a shocking transfer

And bent to villa was awful as well

Forgot about Veron


I expected him to be a great signing tbh

KaiserGunner

Ferris_Bueller wrote: »

It has to be Andy Carroll, the worst transfer of all time by some distance IMO. I laugh looking back on it but signing him was absolute insanity, clubs have overpaid for players before and others have gone for higher transfer fees and flopped, but Andy Carroll was never worth anywhere near £35m, he was a total flop. Players such as Torres, Shevechenko, Falcao were disasters too, but when they were signed they seemed like sensible signings, world class players going to world class teams. Carroll was never going to be good enough for Liverpool and he was never going to suit their style of play, I would love to know what went through Kenny Dalglish's head when they were signing him.

100% agree with this, it just has to be this signing, he was never any good imo. I wouldn't have paid 10 million for him at the time. A couple of my Liverpool mates tried to justify the fee by saying, that he's a young up and coming English striker and that they will get a good 10 years out of him, so in that case it's really only 3.5 million a season for him.

pmasterson95

Konchesky, Krompkamp, Poulsen.....Liverpool have had some right stinkers actually.

pmasterson95

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Konchesky, Krompkamp, Poulsen.....Liverpool have had some right stinkers actually.

Poor alright but the worst in history? Hardly

pmasterson95

rarnes1 wrote: »

Poor alright but the worst in history? Hardly

Ah no bit rambly by me nut just struck me the amount of utter wastage that was around there was bizzare.

matrim

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

Darren Bent to spurs was a shocking transfer

And bent to villa was awful as well

Bent kept Villa up in the season he was bought and the one after. He was slightly unlucky then that a new manager came in with a different style which didn't suit him

klose

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Konchesky, Krompkamp, Poulsen.....Liverpool have had some right stinkers actually.

Krompkanp was strictly backup for finnan who was in great form at the time. Think he was swapped for josemi?

keeponhurling

Ferris_Bueller wrote: »

In the championship though, what's the highest fee a player has ever been signed from the championship for? I'd guess not over £10m.

He had played half a season in the Premiership, scoring 11 in 19, and also made his England debut, aged 21.

Still not worth 35m, but he certainly wasn't signed straight from the Championship

Also from wiki, haha, he scpred the winner against Everton in the FA Cup semi-final (as well as coring in the final) - a goal which Jamie Carragher described as "worth £35 million in itself"

circadian

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

Darren Bent to spurs was a shocking transfer

And bent to villa was awful as well

Was worth the £18m for league safety to be fair.

LuckyLloyd

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

Torres was absolutely shíte the Season before he was shipped off to Chelsea.

Don't think di maria was anything close to a flop

1) The season and a half period (2009 - 2011) where he scored 31 goals in 58 appearances for Liverpool..."absolutely ****e"
2) What level of performance is it reasonable to expect when you pay in excess of £60m for a player? Cause I was genuinely hoping it would be a level >>>> what Di Maria produced last year

Take a chair pal.

Speak Now

8-10 wrote: »

Think you're confusing Kirkland with Scott Carson

Yeah Kirkland had played in the Olympiacos game.

Speak Now

KaiserGunner wrote: »

100% agree with this, it just has to be this signing, he was never any good imo. I wouldn't have paid 10 million for him at the time. A couple of my Liverpool mates tried to justify the fee by saying, that he's a young up and coming English striker and that they will get a good 10 years out of him, so in that case it's really only 3.5 million a season for him.

Getting almost half the money back from West Ham was almost as amazing in itself!

syngindub

Robbie Keane to Liverpool was a massive flop

GLaDOS

Too early to call Di Maria a flop, he could easily come good yet.

His first season was definitely a major disappointment after a really good start though.

bucketybuck

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

1) The season and a half period (2009 - 2011) where he scored 31 goals in 58 appearances for Liverpool..."absolutely ****e"

The post you quoted said he was shite the season before he went to Chelsea. So why reply with stats from before that period? Nobody had said he was always rubbish at Liverpool.

Torres scored 9 goals in his last full season with Liverpool, he was a shadow of his former self that season.

Liam O

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

Getting almost half the money back from West Ham was almost as amazing in itself!

A fit Carroll would be a 15m odd player for west ham a hell of a lot more than he'd ever be a 35m worthy player for Liverpool. He'd be just about a top 10 team striker imo but not a top 6 or 7.

Trond

Surprised no one mentioned Fulham signing Mitroglou for 14 million.

3 games, 1 start, no goals. He was the clubs record signing.

Bobby Baccala

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

1) The season and a half period (2009 - 2011) where he scored 31 goals in 58 appearances for Liverpool..."absolutely ****e"
2) What level of performance is it reasonable to expect when you pay in excess of £60m for a player? Cause I was genuinely hoping it would be a level >>>> what Di Maria produced last year

Take a chair pal.

The same people calling di maria a flop after one season were calling ozil a flop after one season.

Pighead

Aquilani has to be up there. Liverpool paid nearly £20m for him, he played about twenty games and then got sold on a couple of years later for buttons. All this while earning over £100,000 a week. Nightmare transfer.

citytillidie

8-10 wrote: »

Think you're confusing Kirkland with Scott Carson

I did my bad

Trond

ScienceNerd wrote: »

Too early to call Di Maria a flop, he could easily come good yet.

His first season was definitely a major disappointment after a really good start though.

Hes a class player having a poor first season, simple as that.

In a very low scoring United side He still managed 11 assists which is more than Hazard got with Chelsea.

Only 2 other players got more than himin the league (Fabregas and Cazorla).

LuckyLloyd

bucketybuck wrote: »

The post you quoted said he was shite the season before he went to Chelsea. So why reply with stats from before that period? Nobody had said he was always rubbish at Liverpool.

Torres scored 9 goals in his last full season with Liverpool, he was a shadow of his former self that season.

What the **** are you talking about? In his last half season at Liverpool he scored 9 goals in 23 league games. How is that 'absolutely ****e'?

LuckyLloyd

Pighead wrote: »

Aquilani has to be up there. Liverpool paid nearly £20m for him, he played about twenty games and then got sold on a couple of years later for buttons. All this while earning over £100,000 a week. Nightmare transfer.

Agree

citytillidie

bucketybuck wrote: »

The post you quoted said he was shite the season before he went to Chelsea. So why reply with stats from before that period? Nobody had said he was always rubbish at Liverpool.

Torres scored 9 goals in his last full season with Liverpool, he was a shadow of his former self that season.

Since when is August to January a full season in football?

bucketybuck

bucketybuck wrote: »

The post you quoted said he was shite the season before he went to Chelsea. So why reply with stats from before that period? Nobody had said he was always rubbish at Liverpool.

Torres scored 9 goals in his last full season with Liverpool, he was a shadow of his former self that season.

He didn't play a full season though.

He left in January with 9 goals in 20 odd apps

citytillidie

citytillidie wrote: »

Since when is August to January a full season in football?

In the soccer forum of course!

tritium

My flop XI

Taibi
Konchesky
Senderos (senderos and piecnik could maybe both argue extenuating circumstances. .)
Santos
Piecnik
Veron (twice)
Kleberson
Robinho (who couldn't be arsed)
Bogarde (another lazygit )
Shevchenko
Jeffers

Sub's:Aquilani, Diouf, Almunia, Ali dia

Only conclusion is everyone has a few duds, and some cost a bit...

rossie1977

anderson €30 million and nani €25 million double swoop have to be up there

i bet there are still a few man utd fans convinced anderson will eventually come good for them :P

gosplan

Big teams get away with it more but City's striker situation has been flopping amazing

Jo - 18m
Adebayor - 25m
Balotelli - 25m
Jovetic - 25m
Bony - 28m
Negredo - 20m

If it wasn't for Ageuro, they'd be goosed. Dzeko is adequate but keeps getting made to look better and better by the other strikers they keep signing.

bucketybuck

Tell you what my Liverpool friends, if you want to tell yourself that Torres left Liverpool in sparkling form and playing as well as he ever did then you go right ahead and do that.

Its not the reality, but when has that ever stopped you.

syngindub

rossie1977 wrote: »

anderson €30 million and nani €25 million double swoop have to be up there

i bet there are still a few man utd fans convinced anderson will eventually come good for them :P

In his second game for Inter

a 3–1 defeat to The Strongest in the Copa Libertadores on 17 February, Anderson was substituted after 36 minutes and required an oxygen mask due to La Paz's Estadio Hernando Siles being 3.68 km above sea level.

gosplan

rossie1977 wrote: »

anderson €30 million and nani €25 million double swoop have to be up there

i bet there are still a few man utd fans convinced anderson will eventually come good for them :P

Nani was great for a while

Will I Amnt

rossie1977 wrote: »

anderson €30 million and nani €25 million double swoop have to be up there

i bet there are still a few man utd fans convinced anderson will eventually come good for them :P

I've seen so many different transfer fees for Anderson that I don't think anybody knows what he went for. It's somewhere between £12m and £35m...

rossie1977

Will I Amnt wrote: »

I've seen so many different transfer fees for Anderson that I don't think anybody knows what he went for. It's somewhere between £12m and £35m...

porto announced the fee was €30 million to the stock market http://web3.cmvm.pt/sdi2004/emitentes/docs/FR13758.pdf

torres went for €20 million same month...the only thing worse than that is knowing liverpool paid more for adam lallana than they did for luis suarez lol

Knex*

Steve Marlet was a gas one.

This is in his Wiki, "Marlet's poor performances for Fulham led to chairman Mohammed Al Fayed taking Tigana to the Court of Arbitration for Sport for the high transfer fee"

:pac:

citytillidie

bucketybuck wrote: »

Tell you what my Liverpool friends, if you want to tell yourself that Torres left Liverpool in sparkling form and playing as well as he ever did then you go right ahead and do that.

Its not the reality, but when has that ever stopped you.

Nobody is saying he left in sparking form we just want to know when a full season started to be half a season.

In his last full season for Liverpool he scored 18 goals, then in his last half season he played under Roy's negative football

GavRedKing

gosplan wrote: »

Big teams get away with it more but City's striker situation has been flopping amazing

Jo - 18m
Adebayor - 25m
Balotelli - 25m
Jovetic - 25m
Bony - 28m
Negredo - 20m

If it wasn't for Ageuro, they'd be goosed. Dzeko is adequate but keeps getting made to look better and better by the other strikers they keep signing.

Santa Cruz? He was tripe for them as well.

GLaDOS

I think Bony needs more than half a season to be labelled a flop

keeponhurling

GavRedKing wrote: »

Santa Cruz? He was tripe for them as well.

I think David James even got a run up front with them at some stage as well....

pmasterson95

Didn't Rolando Bianchi and Benjani arrived at City same year as Jo?
Think Bianchi was 16m and Benjani 8m?

LuckyLloyd

citytillidie wrote: »

Nobody is saying he left in sparking form we just want to know when a full season started to be half a season.

In his last full season for Liverpool he scored 18 goals, then in his last half season he played under Roy's negative football

And scored 9 goals.

The contention was that he was "utter ****e", which has been disproven. Buckety can pick those toys up and throw them back in the pram I'm sure.

GavRedKing

keeponhurling wrote: »

I think David James even got a run up front with them at some stage as well....

That was Portsmouth during the last game of the season, AFAIK.

pmasterson95

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

And scored 9 goals.

The contention was that he was "utter ****e", which has been disproven. Buckety can pick those toys up and throw them back in the pram I'm sure.

Buckety can pull out random stats to support flimsy argumemt be careful.

LuckyLloyd

pmasterson95 wrote: »

Buckety can pull out random stats to support flimsy argumemt be careful.

I don't think goals and games is a "random" stat for a striker!

pmasterson95

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

I don't think goals and games is a "random" stat for a striker!

No but he will find something to somehow support his view.

bucketybuck

bucketybuck wrote: »

Tell you what my Liverpool friends, if you want to tell yourself that Torres left Liverpool in sparkling form and playing as well as he ever did then you go right ahead and do that.

Its not the reality, but when has that ever stopped you.

You're wrong what you said originally and are now are backtracking.

Your last line is just bizarre

bucketybuck

citytillidie wrote: »

Nobody is saying he left in sparking form

On the contrary, a comment to that effect is exactly what I originally replied to.

Tomagotchye wrote: »

It is Torres. In the space of a summer he went from amazeballs striker to chess piece in Abramovic's non ending war with every Chelsea manager over style.

bucketybuck

rarnes1 wrote: »

You're wrong what you said originally and are now are backtracking.

Your last line is just bizarre

I have no need to back track. Torres was in poor form long before he went to Chelsea and that was why his transfer fee was such a surprise at the time. You think anybody would have balked at £50m for the peak Torres? Of course not. But he hadn't been peak Torres for a while at Liverpool and so it was a surprise that Chelsea paid what they did.

If anybody wants to believe different, that Torres' form hadn't dipped dramatically from his best years at Liverpool then more power to you.