League of Ireland in Europe 2015, mod note in OP

GLaDOS

Should have been game over there

monkey9

F*ck, i forgot this was on tv. Just switched on now. Look how bright it is!

monkey9

Didn't Celtic play these these lot last year?

Mr.Crinklewood

That's that

Lovely Bloke

that's pretty embarrassing to be fair.

gimmick

Left that one behind us in that we should have tried press home the advantage rather than sit so bloody deep.

But we did and overall can't complain as KR deserved the win. Boo.

pablomakaveli

Well thats it. Well done to KR. They fully deserved that win. Caulfields an idiot. 1-0 up against ten men and we sit back and let them attack. Idiotic.

doncarlos

Cork were a disgrace tonight. Gifted a man advantage for the entire second half and they parked the bus??? It actually looked like the Icelanders had the man advantage.
Caulfield has been shown up badly again as a clueless and cowardly manager. I really hope Cork keep him as manager for the long term future as they will go nowhere under him.

The_Kew_Tour

Might be blessing long term.

Short term its a lose of 200,000 which been nice for club.

simonw

Hard luck Cork fans, Caulfield has to take the blame for that one.

The_Kew_Tour

Defended him plenty a time, but manager got it 100% wrong tonight.

Like a say might be blessing long term.

monkey9

doncarlos wrote: »

Cork were a disgrace tonight. Gifted a man advantage for the entire second half and they parked the bus??? It actually looked like the Icelanders had the man advantage.
Caulfield has been shown up badly again as a clueless and cowardly manager. I really hope Cork keep him as manager for the long term future as they will go nowhere under him.

He doesn't really know how to play from home. His midfielders get neck creaks and he relies on the home crowd of Turner's Cross to push his team up the table.

But yeah....Dublin.

monkey9

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Defended him plenty a time, but manager got it 100% wrong tonight.

Like a say might be blessing long term.

Cork City are prime to take off, just not under Caulfield.

The_Kew_Tour

monkey9 wrote: »

Cork City are prime to take off, just not under Caulfield.

Likes of Miller aint good enough though. He was past it at Hibs never mind now.

Lehane and Morrissey should get proper chance and Holohan too.

We might struggle to get Europe again though after this. Will see.

rocky911

They sat back from the 12th min after Marky Sull's goal, in truth should have been over in 90 mins as KR had plenty of chances in to end it.

NufcNavan

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Likes of Miller aint good enough though. He was past it at Hibs never mind now.

Lehane and Morrissey should get proper chance and Holohan too.

We might struggle to get Europe again though after this. Will see.

Haven't seen a whole lot of Cork this year but Holohan is more than good enough to get a start on that team. Waste of talent on the bench.

doncarlos

monkey9 wrote: »

He doesn't really know how to play from home. His midfielders get neck creaks and he relies on the home crowd of Turner's Cross to push his team up the table.

But yeah....Dublin.

He can be as dodge at home too versus the better teams.

He seems like a nice guy and is probably a victim of his own success and the pressure that has come with it. Had he finished 4th last year his job would be a lot easier this year and challenging for Europe would be acceptable, even with the rubbish football.

There was a lot of Cork fans defending him to the hilt when he was criticised by opposition fans but it seems like they've all changed their tune as he's getting fairly slated on their forum.

marno21

NufcNavan wrote: »

Haven't seen a whole lot of Cork this year but Holohan is more than good enough to get a start on that team. Waste of talent on the bench.

IMO would have been a much better candidate to replace Miller tonight.

farna_boy

marno21 wrote: »

IMO would have been a much better candidate to replace Miller tonight.

If Kearney never plays for City again, I'll be happy. Offers absolutely nothing at this stage. The only thing he ever had was speed and that is long gone.

Really hoped Caufield would do well at the club as manager. I know his tactics are bad, and I think any City fan would admit that, but at least last season you could say that he maybe didn't have the squad to play as he liked and that was the reason he played so defensively. I don't think that stands up to scrutiny this season though.

His other big failing from what I see is playing Miller, Healy and Buckley in essentially the same position. OK Healy is shining, but the other two are floundering. Added to that, it leaves one of the full backs totally exposed, I really don't see the benefit in it.

Absolutely gutted overall. I reckon different tactics and we would have gone through.

wadacrack

There is so much more in that Cork squad. Caulfield wont trust the younger players. Not good for their development.

Corholio

doncarlos wrote: »

He can be as dodge at home too versus the better teams.

He seems like a nice guy and is probably a victim of his own success and the pressure that has come with it. Had he finished 4th last year his job would be a lot easier this year and challenging for Europe would be acceptable, even with the rubbish football.

There was a lot of Cork fans defending him to the hilt when he was criticised by opposition fans but it seems like they've all changed their tune as he's getting fairly slated on their forum.

Ah to be fair, there's always been a fair amount of criticism from City fans, even throughout all of last season. When you are winning its a little harder to justify of course, but it was always going to be a long term problem if the football continued as it did, which it has despite pre-season promises.

dreamers75

Disgusted to go out like that, 1st shot after 62 minutes.....

Bucko got it wrong again playing unfit players, it cost us away and it cost us again. they played a game we couldnt even if tried.

Hammer Archer

I am fcuking locked!!!!
Fcuking heroes ecery single one of them.

AgileMyth

Cork were very poor. Their right back is atrocious, lost the ball every time he touched it.

gimmick

farna_boy wrote: »

His other big failing from what I see is playing Miller, Healy and Buckley in essentially the same position. OK Healy is shining, but the other two are floundering. Added to that, it leaves one of the full backs totally exposed, I really don't see the benefit in it.

Absolutely gutted overall. I reckon different tactics and we would have gone through.

Honestly think Healy has been brutal this season. Was awful in the first leg, worst player on the pitch awful, and was pretty anonymous again last night.

NIMAN

Well done UCD, great achievement.

Pats were always going to find it tough.

But Cork really blew it by the sounds of things.

gimmick

NIMAN wrote: »

But Cork really blew it by the sounds of things.

We did, but to be fair to KR, they were a pretty handy side. No excuses though - we should have been progressing especially given the advantage we had last night.

White Horse

Cork were utter poison last night. It was the most inept performance by an Irish side I've seen in Europe.

T-b0n3

dreamers75 wrote: »

Disgusted to go out like that, 1st shot after 62 minutes.....

Bucko got it wrong again playing unfit players, it cost us away and it cost us again. they played a game we couldnt even if tried.

I agree it was extremely disappointing after so much optimism at the start.

Which players do you feel were unfit?

djpbarry

NIMAN wrote: »

Pats were always going to find it tough.

Why? Skonto are nothing special. The tie should have been dead and buried by half-time in the first leg.

Hammer Archer

Raging hangover and a more than 3 hour train journey don't go together.

I may be exaggerating but I think that performance, given the context, was up there with Rovers in Belgrade. For the last 45 minutes every single player threw themselves in front of shots without fear. A good few players could hardly walk out of the dressing room after. Absolutely phenomenal from 1 to 11 plus the subs.

Dudelange really got filthy though and were given free reign to do so by the officials. They could have easily been a man down in the first minute when Jamie Doyle was chopped down when clean through on goal. Coyne's red was probably correct but Langtry was then elbowed shortly afterwards and the guy only got a yellow while we were temporarily down to 9 due to Langtry's bloody nose. Then a Dudelange player kicked Langtry's legs from under him with the ball a good 2 or 3 yards away. Didn't even get booked for that. Thomas Boyle has also said that he was bitten during the game. Would have been a travesty had we lost in the end.

Some atmosphere in our end. Very surreal to have 50 UCD fans at an away game. Even some fans of other Luxembourg teams got involved. Had 3 lads from Kaiserslautern who went to the game and are now planning to go to Bratislava next week.

Hope the "pundits" who called us an embarrassment and questioned whether we should be a LOI team at all have the decency to come out and admit they got it completely wrong.

Finally, hats off to TiltedBrain. Any chance you could conjure up the same optimism for the Slovan Bratislava game?

NIMAN

djpbarry wrote: »

Why? Skonto are nothing special. The tie should have been dead and buried by half-time in the first leg.

Cos they were a goal down and would have to chase the game, so would always been likely to concede one.

Skonto played us a few seasons back. We comfortable winners in the Brandywell.

Hammer Archer

Carl O'Neill, Collie O'Neill's son, was born at 5:30 this morning just hours after his Dad came back from Luxembourg. Nice of him to wait.

kksaints

T-b0n3 wrote: »

I agree it was extremely disappointing after so much optimism at the start.

Which players do you feel were unfit?

Conan, Ger and Fagan didnt look right and were below par. Could possibly add Browne to that list although I thought he was ok last night. Disappointing to go out like that last night. I can remember them only having 4 chances in the entire match they scored two and one was cleared off the line, We had more chances but just didnt take them. McGrath looks a super talent if only his finish didnt hit the post because the skill leading up to it was superb.

Hammer Archer

Last few moments of the UCD game on Thursday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKWvvZSeRkw

LuckyLloyd

Any of the three games on TV this week?

Hoping Dundalk and UCD can still be even vaguely live for the home legs but won't be holding my breath.

What do Rovers fans here think of their chances against the Norwegians?

Captain Havoc

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

What do Rovers fans here think of their chances against the Norwegians?

Not great to be honest. I think all teams will be out next week.

djpbarry

NIMAN wrote: »

Cos they were a goal down and would have to chase the game, so would always been likely to concede one.

Again, why? We’re talking about Skonto Riga here, not Legia Warsaw? And they only needed a 1-0 win to progress, so it’s not like they had to go out all guns blazing from the first whistle.

Pats were odds-on favourites with the bookies to win on the night and rightly so. Going into a home leg with only a one goal deficit to overturn, plus an away goal, is a reasonably strong position to be in. Losing 2-0 at home to a side from Latvia is a very poor result.

NIMAN wrote: »

Skonto played us a few seasons back. We comfortable winners in the Brandywell.

Comfortable?!? Ye beat them by a jammy goal to nil?

anncoates

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

What do Rovers fans here think of their chances against the Norwegians?

Worrying tbh. They seem decent. In mid season and did a surprising enough ambush of Sheriff.

Even though we were much better than Progres, I thought a sharper team might have scored against us away/first half hour at home and maybe not have gifted one or two of the goals they did.

Hopefully McPhail and Kenna will be fit again for some part of the ties as they were badly missed. Plus North is available again which is another option off the bench.

Can't see them being exactly expansive games.

CHealy

I was over in Iceland and even today I'm still completely disgusted at what I saw. Theres been a few times I've been made to feel embarrassed as a Cork City supporter, but usually it had to do with criminal owners through the late 2000's, but Thursday night I was truly sickened to be standing in the ground at full time and for Caulfield give us a clap. In a way I think it might be a blessing we got knocked out because Rosenberg would of had a bit of fun with us, but Caulfield and his footballing ideas directly cost the club over 200 thousand Thrsday night. I think the wheels have fully come off after it, even on our own forum people who would have stuck up for JC on a weekly basis are now saying that it was utter rubbish. His contract runs out at the end of the season, in an ideal world we'll somehow hold onto 2nd or 3rd, get Europe again, and part ways before theres more damage done to his club 'legend' status. If he had any respect for the club he's agree with this.

White Horse

CHealy wrote: »

I was over in Iceland and even today I'm still completely disgusted at what I saw.

The issue of Caulfield's tactics have been building up for a while. He tried to deflect the issue a couple of times but that won't work now. It may be good in the long term that this result brings the issue to a head.

To me, it looks like Caulfield is holding Cork City back.

djpbarry

White Horse wrote: »

To me, it looks like Caulfield is holding Cork City back.

Time to give Rod a proper go?

wadacrack

ucd bratislava live on Setanta

CHealy

White Horse wrote: »

The issue of Caulfield's tactics have been building up for a while. He tried to deflect the issue a couple of times but that won't work now. It may be good in the long term that this result brings the issue to a head.

To me, it looks like Caulfield is holding Cork City back.

I've been saying it for a while and I agree 100%. He's restored the local pride in the club, he's got the gates back for the most part, but thats as far as it goes. We need someone to bring it to the next level now.

harpstilidie

Is the Dundalk game not being televised?

Oat23

harpstilidie wrote: »

Is the Dundalk game not being televised?

It's on cable TV in Belarus. Belarus 5 is the channel name.

Might be picked up late over here because of that.

edit: I found a stable stream for Belarus 5 anyway so we will probably have a stream at least.

dfx-

LuckyLloyd wrote: »

What do Rovers fans here think of their chances against the Norwegians?

Not confident, but it's hard to know what to make of their win against Sherriff. Is it an indicator of how good they were or how bad Sherriff were...

I think the fact that they are in mid-season makes a huge difference so no advantage in fitness.

DvB

dfx- wrote: »

Not confident, but it's hard to know what to make of their win against Sherriff. Is it an indicator of how good they were or how bad Sherriff were...

I think the fact that they are in mid-season makes a huge difference so no advantage in fitness.

Their budget is considerably bigger than ours, that's usually a decent indicator as to the relative strength of the two sides, I have no doubts this is a seriously difficult tie, I suspect these are probably the strongest side any of the Irish clubs will face this year (with the possible exception of BATE)

AidySevenfold

Dundalk fan refused entry into Belarus. Apparently border police ripped a page from his passport and deemed it invalid. Apparently several eye witnesses to it and something which happens regularly.
Irish Embassy were of no help. Awful..

Oat23

AidySevenfold wrote: »

Dundalk fan refused entry into Belarus. Apparently border police ripped a page from his passport and deemed it invalid. Apparently several eye witnesses to it and something which happens regularly.
Irish Embassy were of no help. Awful..

Did he hear the words 'хабар' (chabar) or 'грошы' (haroshe) at any point during this exchange?

He was supposed to give them money.