criterium de dauphine

mhiggy09

What a stage! ! Great ride by TJ and Yeats

Eamonnator

mhiggy09 wrote: »

The gap is coming down fast! Also does anyone know what the thing is sticking out the back of some of the saddles?

http://inrng.com/2015/06/geolocation-telemetry-dauphine/#more-25217

All explained.

ford2600

Have never been to the more famous areas of Alps but tomorrow's stage is fantastic cycling country.

letape

Dan 8th and Nico 10th - 1-17 and 1-26 down respectively.

CramCycle

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MPFG

I'd give SKY a break re tactics ...none of the so called descenders like Nibali or BMC went after Bardet when he went off ...I don't think anyone could have caught him on that descent anyway

As fro Nico ...he rode very well ...his job was to accelerate at 2km ..so not expected to last long ...and that was good he could do that at that point considering at that stage Nibs, Valverde, Mollema and a whole plethora on GC had gone and he still managed to hang in there

Also Dan Martin rode well

godtabh

MPFG wrote: »

I'd give SKY a break re tactics ...none of the so called descenders like Nibali or BMC went after Bardet when he went off ...I don't think anyone could have caught him on that descent anyway

As fro Nico ...he rode very well ...his job was to accelerate at 2km ..so not expected to last long ...and that was good he could do that at that point considering at that stage Nibs, Valverde, Mollema and a whole plethora on GC had gone and he still managed to hang in there

Also Dan Martin rode well

Sky had a full pack at one stage on the second last climb. They may have managed it better when they went at the front and had more for the last climb. ITV commentary was good. They controlled the decent well to protect Froome but they were just to slow.

MPFG

godtabh wrote: »

Sky had a full pack at one stage on the second last climb. They may have managed it better when they went at the front and had more for the last climb. ITV commentary was good. They controlled the decent well to protect Froome but they were just to slow.

SKY were on the limit...I don;t think it was tactical ...they managed to bring back Bardet about 25 seconds but he was too good to be caught

dastardly00

MPFG wrote: »

As fro Nico ...he rode very well ...his job was to accelerate at 2km ..so not expected to last long ...and that was good he could do that at that point considering at that stage Nibs, Valverde, Mollema and a whole plethora on GC had gone and he still managed to hang in there

Also Dan Martin rode well

It was a bit strange that Nico was only on the front for about 20 seconds before Froome attacked. I wonder if that was the tactic or was Froome feeling good and he went for it. Froome got tired near the finish so it might have been better to have Nico drilling kt for another while. Nico finished an impressive 13th partly because he didn't have to drive the lead bunch on for an extended period of time.

MPFG

dastardly00 wrote: »

It was a bit strange that Nico was only on the front for about 20 seconds before Froome attacked. I wonder if that was the tactic or was Froome feeling good and he went for it. Froome got tired near the finish so it might have been better to have Nico drilling kt for another while. Nico finished an impressive 13th partly because he didn't have to drive the lead bunch on for an extended period of time.

I think Nico was supposed to launch him but IMO went too hard and ran out of steam .. a bit like the TTT...needs to judge accelerations as an all out sprint won't last and puts Froome under pressure...would have been better if Nico as you stay drilled at speed without the blow out acceleration

Brian?

MPFG wrote: »

I think Nico was supposed to launch him but IMO went too hard and ran out of steam .. a bit like the TTT...needs to judge accelerations as an all out sprint won't last and puts Froome under pressure...would have been better if Nico as you stay drilled at speed without the blow out acceleration

he did the exact same thing a few times last year for Contador, absolute full gas for about 20 seconds. Don't get the point of it at all

MPFG

Brian? wrote: »

he did the exact same thing a few times last year for Contador, absolute full gas for about 20 seconds. Don't get the point of it at all

I don't either ...it might be nerves though as he seems to suffer from performance anxiety...abit like "oh I am on the front I better leg it" Remember alot of Nico's performances are to do with jumping at the wrong time , going too hard in the wrong place ...like the TTT ...he needs to go to hypnotist I imagine as last man for Froome his numbers are very good if only his head could match

dastardly00

MPFG wrote: »

I think Nico was supposed to launch him but IMO went too hard and ran out of steam .. a bit like the TTT...needs to judge accelerations as an all out sprint won't last and puts Froome under pressure...would have been better if Nico as you stay drilled at speed without the blow out acceleration

Brian? wrote: »

he did the exact same thing a few times last year for Contador, absolute full gas for about 20 seconds. Don't get the point of it at all

MPFG wrote: »

I don't either ...it might be nerves though as he seems to suffer from performance anxiety...abit like "oh I am on the front I better leg it" Remember alot of Nico's performances are to do with jumping at the wrong time , going too hard in the wrong place ...like the TTT ...he needs to go to hypnotist I imagine as last man for Froome his numbers are very good if only his head could match

To me, it didn't look like Nico ran out of gas this time, it looked more like Froome just decided to attack. He managed 13th place, so he wasn't completely empty. A bit strange from Froome I think. Anyway I'm sure Nico will explain in his diary tomorrow.

(I do agree that there have been plenty of examples in the last year or two where Nico has hit the front while being last domestique, and has only last a very short time before he was cooked).

MPFG

dastardly00 wrote: »

To me, it didn't look like Nico ran out of gas this time, it looked more like Froome just decided to attack. He managed 13th place, so he wasn't completely empty. A bit strange from Froome I think. Anyway I'm sure Nico will explain in his diary tomorrow.

(I do agree that there have been plenty of examples in the last year or two where Nico has hit the front while being last domestique, and has only last a very short time before he was cooked).

The only other example I remember is Contador in the Tour last year ..again Nico last Dom and was very short time at front ...both seemed the same plan...launch attack by leader at 2km and Nico to put in a massive acceleration ...the thing is at that stage of race its hard to put in any acceleration by anyone unless you are Bert or Froome...so can understand why he runs out ....but its obviously a plan by SKY ..suppose 30 seconds acceleration is better than naught or in training he doesn't run out of steam which comes back to my theory on performance anxiety

drogdub

Froome looks like he has a bit more weight on him than normal. I presume that's with the first week of the Tour in mind.

godtabh

Nico has his say