Copa América

inforfun

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Ray " he knows exactly what he is doing" Hudson :pac:

FYP.

Basically the only sentence that idiot cant get out of his gob.

Talib Fiasco

hots wrote: »

Think it's my first full match listening to this clown. So bad.

Unfortunately my OCD of not being able to watch a stream unless it's in English has led me to several encounters with him. I can tolerate him though...certainly more than the main commentator.

Oat23

I don't like Hudson either, but he does have some good lines.

''And he's off like a prom dress''

ILikeBananas

Watching this on some US stream which is has this really annoying, hysterical, Scottish co-commentator. He's a screamer.

Edit: reading the above comment he's actually a Geordie.

Pinturicchio

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Unfortunately my OCD of not being able to watch a stream unless it's in English has led me to several encounters with him. I can tolerate him though...certainly more than the main commentator.

I've actually gotten to quite like those two during this tournament. At least they don't just stick to the same banal cliches that we get on RTE, ITV etc.

Turtwig

Ray like a hair dryer dropped in a bathtub Hudson.

Corholio

Imagine Argentina misplacing a pass or giving the ball away and it not the 'coaches' fault. Attributing no blame to the players on the pitch is ridiculous and not realistic. Very good players can still play poor and have criticism attributed fairly.

Oat23

ILikeBananas wrote: »

Watching this on some US stream which is has this really annoying, hysterical, Scottish co-commentator. He's a screamer.

Geordie*

Andersonisgod

Second half and Argentina are completely bypassing midfield now.

Martino has tried to punch Rojo in the back, probably his most positive contribution of the evening.

Talib Fiasco

Pinturicchio wrote: »

I've actually gotten to quite like those two during this tournament. At least they don't just stick to the same banal cliches that we get on RTE, ITV etc.

As I said I don't mind Ray, he comes out with some absolute belters on occasion...but I cannot warm to the main commentator...his accent grates me

inforfun

Isla should have gone down there.

Turtwig

Do Argentina have any alternate to Rojo? He's been awful this tournament

Talib Fiasco

Turtwig wrote: »

Do Argentina have any alternate to Rojo? He's been awful this tournament

Surely Walter Samuel could do a shift still?

Turtwig

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Surely Walter Samuel could do a shift still?

Samuel's positioning would probably still be better :pac:

keith16

Chile have this in the bag.

keith16

What an effort that was.

corny

Messi is literally walking around the pitch now. Shocking behaviour for your captain.

Turtwig

Ok that was a good read by Rojo. Maybe he's growing into the game?

Andersonisgod

Rojo is absolutely toxic.

Turtwig

corny wrote: »

Messi is literally walking around the pitch now. Shocking behaviour for your captain.

Messi always walks around the pitch.
Very often fails to cover 8km in a game. Sometimes it doesn't reach 7 km!

( Neymar covered the most distance for Barcelona last season)

Pinturicchio

Turtwig wrote: »

Do Argentina have any alternate to Rojo? He's been awful this tournament

The only other left back called up, Casco, had never been capped before this tournament.

Grid.

So much for Argentina going all out to win it!:rolleyes:

CSF

I think the Martino criticism has some merit but is harsh in its severity. He isn't among the upper echelons of managers by any stretch but the Argentina poorer performances have been as much down to poor individual performances than bad organisation.

MisterAnarchy

CSF wrote: »

I think the Martino criticism has some merit but is harsh in its severity. He isn't among the upper echelons of managers by any stretch but the Argentina poorer performances have been as much down to poor individual performances than bad organisation.

Argentina were just as poor to watch in the World Cup when Martino wasnt in charge.

keith16

Does the final go straight to pens aswell?

Turtwig

keith16 wrote: »

Does the final go straight to pens aswell?

Hope so chile play is too intense to last extra time

MisterAnarchy

keith16 wrote: »

Does the final go straight to pens aswell?

No ,there will be extra time

Oat23

Why does this ref keep changing his mind after waving play on then giving freekicks?

That was not a freekick.

Andersonisgod

Turtwig wrote: »

Messi always walks around the pitch.
Very often fails to cover 8km in a game. Sometimes it doesn't reach 7 km!

He's coming off a very long season where he's won a treble and played almost every minute of every game. If you are also to believe reports his family and Aguero's were attacked before the game by Chile supporters so that's probably not aiding his motivation. However he looks like the only player capable of playing accurate forward passes consistently and to break the lines so, ye, there's that.

ILikeBananas

there'll be extra time since it's the final

keith16

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

No ,there will be extra time

Ah balls. I'm fading fast here.

Some intensity to the game in fairness.

CSF

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Argentina were just as poor to watch in the World Cup when Martino wasnt in charge.

Messi and Aguero both play at clubs that have been set up to play to their strengths. Transfer policy would have centred around that, and you can see why. They're unique talents. Argentina don't seem to have the sort of players that you could replicate the Barcelona or the Man City model with.

And to be fair, which of Di Maria, Pastore and Mascherano shone in a midfield position in the season just gone? It was unreasonable to expect them to be an efficient midfield unit here.

Headshot

What a dreadful final. Ref destroyed it

Andersonisgod

Just as you criticise, its Messi the creator who almost wins the final for Argentina, he's the only player whose looked capable of producing a moment like that.

LuckyLloyd

Mesi, can't do it on a warm night in Santiago

MisterAnarchy

Lavezzi is a shadow of the devastating player he was 2-3 years ago .

sReq | uTeK

Andersonisgod wrote: »

Just as you criticise, its Messi the creator who almost wins the final for Argentina, he's the only player whose looked capable of producing a moment like that.

You're the most irritating poster on boards. Because he threaded an easy pass to lev, who put it on a plate it means we ignore his 90 minutes of ****... Messi has looked anonymous because the chilians have got around him and got in his face.

Pinturicchio

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Lavezzi is a shadow of the devastating player he was 2-3 years ago .

I've never thought he was any good tbh.

keith16

Dont' worry linesman, those nets are fine.

inforfun

Take Vargas off and put Henriquez on, please.

Andersonisgod

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

You're the most irritating poster on boards. Because he threaded an easy pass to lev, who put it on a plate it means we ignore his 90 minutes of ****... Messi has looked anonymous because the chilians have got around him and got in his face.

If you actually believe that then truly I have no desire to read anymore of your uninformed opinions.

MisterAnarchy

Pinturicchio wrote: »

I've never thought he was any good tbh.

He was very good a few years back for Napoli when they were in the Champions League .

Anytime I've seen him over the last year or so he has looked like an imposter.
He was rubbish in the World Cup.

Talib Fiasco

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Lavezzi is a shadow of the devastating player he was 2-3 years ago .

In his pomp at Napoli he was as threatening as any player in Europe. Incredible.

corny

The Chileans are really lacking a target man. They work the ball into good areas and then run out of ideas because they've no one to aim at in the area.

Andersonisgod

If you ever wondered what it'd be like if Messi played for Stoke this is probably as close as you're gonna get to that.

sReq | uTeK

Andersonisgod wrote: »

If you actually believe that then truly I have no desire to read anymore of your uninformed opinions.

You see only what you want to see and have done so for any Barcelona player for as long as I can remember. Messi takes hold of a breaking ball in the 91St minute in a 3v3 situation with 40 yards ahead of him and drives and makes a very easy pass to lev. It''s hardly worthy of the 2nd coming as your posts suggested.

Keep looking at Messi and every Barcelona player with rose tinted glasses. Someday you'll wake up.

Talib Fiasco

One of the worst attempted passes I have ever seen...Jesus

Talib Fiasco

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

You see only what you want to see and have done so for any Barcelona player for as long as I can remember. Messi takes hold of a breaking ball in the 91St minute in a 3v3 situation with 40 yards ahead of him and drives and makes a very easy pass to lev. It''s hardly worthy of the 2nd coming as your posts suggested.

Keep looking at Messi and every Barcelona player with rose tinted glasses. Someday you'll wake up.

Lol you'd swear Messi and the Barca players were sh*te players from the Conference and he's bigging them up. You're talking about arguably the best to ever play ball in one of the best teams of all time.

Andersonisgod

sReq | uTeK wrote: »

You see only what you want to see and have done so for any Barcelona player for as long as I can remember. Messi takes hold of a breaking ball in the 91St minute in a 3v3 situation with 40 yards ahead of him and drives and makes a very easy pass to lev. It''s hardly worthy of the 2nd coming as your posts suggested.

Keep looking at Messi and every Barcelona player with rose tinted glasses. Someday you'll wake up.

Also broke through a challenge and also in 91 minutes of football that was the best chance any side has created in open play which my post also insinuated but whatever, as I said uninformed opinions are pointless trying to argue with so I won't waste my time.

sReq | uTeK

Talib Fiasco wrote: »

Lol you'd swear Messi and the Barca players were sh*te players from the Conference and he's bigging them up. You're talking about arguably the best to ever play ball in one of the best teams of all time.

Of course. I'm simply saying they're not infallible and devout of criticism. Messi has not done a twinkle all game. Many on here have said the same. Anders then posts pretty much saying that his anonymity is justified as he's made a decent pass in the 91St minute. It's Pethetic

Not every analysis of Messi is about his overall greatness. I'm discussing him now and here in this 90 minutes. He's done **** all. Claiming because he's possibly the greatest as a defence of his performance tonight is irrelevant.